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Good luck with one of those. Pretty but I'll take displacement over a 6cyl ford with twin turbos any day. Now throw a whipple or some twins on a 6.2 that's just insanity. Had to stop myself I almost did it to my truck. I avoided a divorce

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Listen gm fanboys

 

Nowhere did I say I want a raptor, or that the TT 6 cylinder ford is better

 

All I said is that the raptor is faster.

 

It absolutely is faster. anybody who disagrees is infact a moron

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Listen gm fanboys

 

Nowhere did I say I want a raptor, or that the TT 6 cylinder ford is better

 

All I said is that the raptor is faster.

 

It absolutely is faster. anybody who disagrees is infact a moron

Come out of the closet you Ford lover.

 

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Listen gm fanboys

 

Nowhere did I say I want a raptor, or that the TT 6 cylinder ford is better

 

All I said is that the raptor is faster.

 

It absolutely is faster. anybody who disagrees is infact a moron

 

I just found an article from car and driver where they got 5.4 sec 0-60 for a 6.2 Denali. That is 0.1 sec less than the Hennesy run everyone is quoting.

 

I infact disagree. I believe they will have the same time if run on the same day under the same conditions. And it could go either way.

 

On my truck, all I need to add is some headers and the Raptor is toast. Put in bigger gears and its a slaughter. All for less than a new Raptor

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I just found an article from car and driver where they got 5.4 sec 0-60 for a 6.2 Denali. That is 0.1 sec less than the Hennesy run everyone is quoting.

 

I infact disagree. I believe they will have the same time if run on the same day under the same conditions. And it could go either way.

 

On my truck, all I need to add is some headers and the Raptor is toast. Put in bigger gears and its a slaughter. All for less than a new Raptor

Where's the article?

 

Also yeah you mod it you will win

 

Only to get left for dead if the raptor has a $400 tune

 

I absolutely love my truck and the 6.2, for many reasons the gm small block is one of the greatest engines ever made and I could give you a full break down on why it is.

 

But I'm not blind, the raptor makes 450hp, has actually decent suspension, has a front locker. It's the superior vehicle for the first 100k miles, there is no question about it. It's also more expensive.

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The raptor HO set up with 450/510 is impressive. Still very heavy truck with big giant tires but one of fastest trucks on market. Very impressive.

My thing now is how horrible they sound. Like Tacoma awful. I like looking at YouTube videos of new raptors exhaust so I can laugh. It honestly is terrible

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I just found an article from car and driver where they got 5.4 sec 0-60 for a 6.2 Denali. That is 0.1 sec less than the Hennesy run everyone is quoting.

 

I infact disagree. I believe they will have the same time if run on the same day under the same conditions. And it could go either way.

 

On my truck, all I need to add is some headers and the Raptor is toast. Put in bigger gears and its a slaughter. All for less than a new Raptor

Yup haven't really wanted to spend the cash to dyno my truck but I can guarantee I'm pushing 470hp. With CAI, headers, hi-flow cats, and cat-back and tune.

 

I'm down to race any day of the week.

 

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Listen gm fanboys

 

Nowhere did I say I want a raptor, or that the TT 6 cylinder ford is better

 

All I said is that the raptor is faster.

 

It absolutely is faster. anybody who disagrees is infact a moron

I would think your assumption of some of us being" GM fan boys" is correct. It's a GM truck site. I don't think the majority is blind however and we can appreciate other truck manufacturers and the products they make. Let's face it.. it helps keep us in nice trucks because they're competing for our dollar. It used to hate Dodge because of their advertising and the clientele that was attracted to it. However Dodge is doing some cool stuff now with the Power Wagon and the Rebel. Now Ford has taken that hatred because of the stupid little turbo engines that sounds horrible and the stupid artificial V8 sounds they play for the driver through the speakers. That's just the tip of the iceberg as far as my irritation with Ford. Kudos to GM for still offering. Decent size V8 that has good power and sound. I may have got off teach a little but yes I'm a GM fan and I'm proud of my truck despite it's many shortcomings. At least it's not a Ford. Blah!

 

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Yup haven't really wanted to spend the cash to dyno my truck but I can guarantee I'm pushing 470hp. With CAI, headers, hi-flow cats, and cat-back and tune.

 

I'm down to race any day of the week.

 

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You're def not pushing that at the wheels.

 

It's probably more like 500 crank, 400 wheel

 

And what would happen if you ran into a raptor with the same mods? It'd probably be making 600 crank.

 

Our motors do great with bolt-ons. But the raptor has forced induction. It can force more air into the engine with the proverbial flick of a switch. So you definitely don't want to compare a bolt-on raptor to a bolt on 6.2.

 

I'm pretty certain I could edge a stock raptor with just a tune in my 6.2, but it is infact modded, and no way I'm beating a tuned raptor.

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You're def not pushing that at the wheels.

 

It's probably more like 500 crank, 400 wheel

 

And what would happen if you ran into a raptor with the same mods? It'd probably be making 600 crank.

 

Our motors do great with bolt-ons. But the raptor has forced induction. It can force more air into the engine with the proverbial flick of a switch. So you definitely don't want to compare a bolt-on raptor to a bolt on 6.2.

 

I'm pretty certain I could edge a stock raptor with just a tune in my 6.2, but it is infact modded, and no way I'm beating a tuned raptor.

we need to fight fire with fire! Blown 6.2!

 

 

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You're def not pushing that at the wheels.

 

It's probably more like 500 crank, 400 wheel

 

And what would happen if you ran into a raptor with the same mods? It'd probably be making 600 crank.

 

Our motors do great with bolt-ons. But the raptor has forced induction. It can force more air into the engine with the proverbial flick of a switch. So you definitely don't want to compare a bolt-on raptor to a bolt on 6.2.

 

I'm pretty certain I could edge a stock raptor with just a tune in my 6.2, but it is infact modded, and no way I'm beating a tuned raptor.

I do agree with you on this the 6.2 dynos between 340-350. So with those few things it's probably right around 400 at the wheel

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You're def not pushing that at the wheels.

 

It's probably more like 500 crank, 400 wheel

 

And what would happen if you ran into a raptor with the same mods? It'd probably be making 600 crank.

 

Our motors do great with bolt-ons. But the raptor has forced induction. It can force more air into the engine with the proverbial flick of a switch. So you definitely don't want to compare a bolt-on raptor to a bolt on 6.2.

 

I'm pretty certain I could edge a stock raptor with just a tune in my 6.2, but it is infact modded, and no way I'm beating a tuned raptor.

Ain't much more you can do with with a 6cyl that already has twin turbos. We are talking about engine torque nobody said anything about wheel torque. I'm sure the raptor puts out much less to the wheels as well.

 

We still have the option of throwing on a supercharger or TT. But I guess in the end it's an apple to oranges comparison.

 

Only thing I know is I could whip a stock Raptor with minor mods and my truck will still be working 100k later while they are driving a ticking time bomb.

 

 

 

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Where's the article?

 

Also yeah you mod it you will win

 

Only to get left for dead if the raptor has a $400 tune

 

I absolutely love my truck and the 6.2, for many reasons the gm small block is one of the greatest engines ever made and I could give you a full break down on why it is.

 

But I'm not blind, the raptor makes 450hp, has actually decent suspension, has a front locker. It's the superior vehicle for the first 100k miles, there is no question about it. It's also more expensive.

 

Article:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-gmc-sierra-1500-62l-4x4-test-review

 

I also have a $400 tune. And intake, and exhaust. Just need headers. Then gears. The 6.2 makes quite a bit of power

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Holy shit this thread turned into garbage quickly.

 

I've had three different trucks/SUVs with the 5.3L (07 Sierra, 07 Tahoe, 10 Suburban) and one with the 6.2L, the 6.2L is worlds faster.

 

That may not matter to you. That's fine. I definitely would have said nothing negative about the 5.3L - it's a great motor and has plenty of power to spare. But the difference as a daily driver is pretty significant. My 07 CCSB 2wd Sierra SLT (4spd) was great, but the 14 CCSB 4x4 Silverado HC (6spd) is hilariously powerful in comparison.

 

Roughly the same weight, the same dimensions - slightly different gearing but the biggest difference is the ~100 extra horsepower and torque.

 

And real-world MPG is only about 1mpg worse on the 6.2L.

 

If they offered that 6.2L in the LT packages for a $1k upgrade people would be buying it all day long.

 

I'm secretly hoping they dump it in a RCSB 2wd to make a race truck.

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I don't drink the kook-aid for any brand. The raptor is built to go off road fast, it does that well. As far as mods a programmer on the Ford would add 100 HP for around 400$. There's just no caparison.

 

 

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Theres is no truck I'd rather have than my sierra 6.2. I think it's the best truck on the market.

 

Until the new raptor was released. Atleast the 6.2L raptor was a lot slower and got terrible fuel efficiency, now we have nothing on it.

 

Way way way nicer suspension, faster, more features/tech. Sorry raptor is awesome and gm has nothing to compete with it. If they put out a sierra/silverado 6.2 with the Colorado zr2 dssv suspension, front locker, and adaptive cruise cruise control, I'd change my mind.

 

Until then, raptor > any gm truck

 

You have to admit, our suspension is f-ing terrible.

 

I have a feeling GM is going to release a raptor fighter in the next generation, hopefully 2019 model year but doubtful.

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