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15 minutes ago, ChuckTaylor said:

That one is pretty heavy with the offload and premium plus.  Interesting that tech pack isn't available on the SLT though.

Yeah that's an odd one. You would think an SLT should have access to that feature.

 

 

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There is not a "typical" sierra.  It varies with engine, 4wd, bed length, cab length and other options installed on the truck.

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49 minutes ago, davester said:

There is not a "typical" sierra.  It varies with engine, 4wd, bed length, cab length and other options installed on the truck.

Ok. Looking at the 1500 with 4wd slt  model with short bed. Diesel engine. Also, does gmc account for passengers or gas like Toyota does with the tundra?  

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My 2019 LTZ with the 6.2L and max trailering package has a payload capacity of 1910 lbs.  Compare that to my 2016 LTZ with the 5.3L, which has a payload capacity of 1572 lbs.

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2 hours ago, imperialhipster said:

What is the typical payload for a 2020 1500 Sierra and does it include passengers or gas?

Payload capacity is for an empty truck with a full tank of gas.  It does not include the driver or passengers.  You would need to look at the yellow sticker on the driver's door jamb to determine the payload capacity of any specific truck.  The more optioned out it is, the lower the payload capacity.  Getting the Max Trailering package adds 200 lbs to the GVWR, which means increased payload capacity.

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21 minutes ago, AlaskaErik said:

Payload capacity is for an empty truck with a full tank of gas.  It does not include the driver or passengers.  You would need to look at the yellow sticker on the driver's door jamb to determine the payload capacity of any specific truck.  The more optioned out it is, the lower the payload capacity.  Getting the Max Trailering package adds 200 lbs to the payload capacity.

Hey. Just checked and GMC Does comply with the standard, J2807. This means the payload  number on the door jamb does account for 300lbs worth if passengers and a 70lb hitch. 

 

Where did you get your information from?

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My uncles 2020 AT4 fully loaded sticker was 67k I believe,  Payload is 1396 

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2 hours ago, imperialhipster said:

Hey. Just checked and GMC Does comply with the standard, J2807. This means the payload  number on the door jamb does account for 300lbs worth if passengers and a 70lb hitch. 

 

Where did you get your information from?

Think about it.  How can payload capacity that is specific to each truck include arbitrary weights?  And people will not necessarily be towing, so why include a 70 lb hitch?  This is the payload sticker from my truck.  Read the definition of what counts as payload.  You're confusing max tow rating with payload capacity.  They're two different things.

 

Trailering Information 2_LI.jpg

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2 minutes ago, AlaskaErik said:

Think about it.  How can payload capacity that is specific to each truck include arbitrary weights?  And people will not necessarily be towing, so why include a 70 lb hitch?  This is the payload sticker from my truck.  Read the definition of what counts as payload...

 

Trailering Information 2_LI.jpg

 

You should read the standard the poster mentioned. There is a reason why automotive manufacturers adhere to it. 

 

calculations for trailer weight ratings: In addition to the performance standards, SAE J2807 also uses a specific set of assumptions to calculate maximum trailer weight ratings:

  • For light-duty full-size pickups (GVWR < 8,500 lbs.), SAE J2807 assumes that the tow vehicle includes any options with higher than 33 percent penetration;
  • It assumes there is both a driver and passenger in the vehicle, each weighing 150 pounds;
  • It assumes that tow vehicles also include up to 70 pounds of aftermarket hitch equipment (where applicable); and
  • For conventional trailer towing, SAE J2807 assumes that 10 percent of the trailer weight is on the tongue.

 

https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j2807_201602/

 

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28 minutes ago, AlaskaErik said:

Think about it.  How can payload capacity that is specific to each truck include arbitrary weights?  And people will not necessarily be towing, so why include a 70 lb hitch?  This is the payload sticker from my truck.  Read the definition of what counts as payload.  You're confusing max tow rating with payload capacity.  They're two different things.

 

 

That isn't the payload sticker - that is the tire pressure sticker. 

 

The serial number of the truck is on the sticker.

The pressures listed are for the tires that were installed on the truck.

 

There will be a second sticker on the door post.  It is also printed specific to the vehicle/serial number.

Down near the bottom.  Easy to miss.  (other posts have pictures of the payload sticker)

Similar to the tires pressure sticker, they know what options are installed by serial number and establish payload from those numbers. 

 

Any accessory added at dealer or by owner, that wasn't on the factory order, is considered 'payload'.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AlaskaErik said:

Think about it.  How can payload capacity that is specific to each truck include arbitrary weights?  And people will not necessarily be towing, so why include a 70 lb hitch?  This is the payload sticker from my truck.  Read the definition of what counts as payload.  You're confusing max tow rating with payload capacity.  They're two different things.

 

Trailering Information 2_LI.jpg

SAE is a standard used to measure towing capacity for trucks (and cars) with a payload of less than 14,000 payload (up from 13,000), not a rule or law but a voluntary standard. It just puts everyone on an equal footing so the consumer can compare towing capacities among vehicles and not have one manufacturer exaggerate their claims.

Ford finally agreed that it would use the J2807 on new or redesigned trucks so the F-150 for 2015 is certified for J2807 but not previous models. Toyotas are certified starting in 2013. Ram and GM 1500-series pickup trucks were certified to SAE J2807 as soon as it was clear that Ford was going to follow through. Nissan is the only holdout at this time.

Standardized Tow Rating Procedure Finally Gaining Traction | Edmunds.com
All the unrealistic test weight practices of the past that led to asterisks and fine print have been eliminated. Maximum tow ratings can no longer be based on a stripped base-model truck with a 150-pound driver traveling alone. Test trucks must now be equipped with popular options found on 33 percent (or more) of the configuration being tested. The 150-pound test driver is now accompanied by a 150-pound passenger.

 

Cars.com has an article on this as well. 

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I hauled a pallet of retaining wall block. Kept it under 45mph. Only went about 10 miles with it. Total weight was over 3000lbs. Truck did fine, no bottoming out or hitting the bump stops. Stock trailboss crewcab. 

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11 hours ago, Beat Nick said:

 

You should read the standard the poster mentioned. There is a reason why automotive manufacturers adhere to it. 

 

calculations for trailer weight ratings: In addition to the performance standards, SAE J2807 also uses a specific set of assumptions to calculate maximum trailer weight ratings:

  • For light-duty full-size pickups (GVWR < 8,500 lbs.), SAE J2807 assumes that the tow vehicle includes any options with higher than 33 percent penetration;
  • It assumes there is both a driver and passenger in the vehicle, each weighing 150 pounds;
  • It assumes that tow vehicles also include up to 70 pounds of aftermarket hitch equipment (where applicable); and
  • For conventional trailer towing, SAE J2807 assumes that 10 percent of the trailer weight is on the tongue.

 

https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j2807_201602/

 

learn something new everyday 

Again, you're quoting the standard for max tow rating, not payload capacity.  

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