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I am a Chevy guy in terms of my past Camaro’s and Corvettes.

I am a Toyota guy coming from 4Runners and I still drive a 2000 Landcruiser.

I recently bought a 2017 Silverado LTZ crew cab after thinking I was going to buy a Tundra.

I am a big fan of Toyota because of their reliability. My Landcruiser has 189000 miles and still goes strong.

That being said I could not believe how horrible the Tundra’s drove. They have a very floaty feeling to them and have soft brakes.

I was amazed how planted the Chevy was when I test drove it. Very nice interior and tech. 

The thing that kills me is they are made in Mexico. My father was giving me crap about Toyota’s until I told him they were made in Texas. He always buys the W/T version and those are made in the US.

Anyway I love the Silverado I hope it is a work horse for years to come

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HeySkippyDog Senior Enthusiast

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The crew cab trucks are made in Silao, Mexico. The double cabs and regular cabs are made in US plants. I've had one of each and can't tell the difference in build quality.

As for the Tundra, they seem ok to me. The step bars are pretty flimsy on the Toyota. The Chevy gets better fuel mileage. Other than that, I don't know a whole lot that's different enough between the two to matter much.

The Ecotec 5.3 gets a bad rap with the whole PCV/fouling issue, but there are solutions for that. It's really not a bad engine.

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truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

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My dad bought an ‘18 trd tundra recently

 

-interior is a generation behind

-gas mileage is considerably worse

-handling, ride, and power all worse (i have 6.2)

-not nearly as good as discounts as GM, so if you compare the actual price your paying your gmc is going to be be a mercedes in comparison

 

 

+he has some standard features we don’t have like adaptive cruise control

+oem exhaust sounds a little better

+factory rear sway and bilsteins, still doesn’t ride or handle better though

 

all in all, it’s a nice truck. Basically you’re getting a truck from the previous generation. You’re sacrificing some luxury, appearance, and gas mileage in exchange for more reliability.

 

Would consider one if they came out with a new motor, like a DI version of their 5.7.

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After having my old 2002 Silverado for so many years, I started saving in 2014 for a new truck. That was called my “Tundra savings account”. It wasn’t until mid 2018 when I was ready to buy. Had my 10k down payment all saved up and set out like a kid in a candy store to get my Tundra. 

(At this point I hadn’t even been in any 2018/2018 trucks except work trucks). 

 

My only requirements:

-crew cab

-V8

-heated CLOTH seats (no leather!)

-remote start

-4x4

-greatly prefer NO chrome

 

So out of my 6 items, Toyota couldn’t do 3 of them. 2 if I went real high end to the TRD version that had painted bumpers. 

Spent some hours there working prices and figured I’d go look around some. Next weekend family and I drove the Chevy lot after lunch just for fun. That’s when I saw a Cajun red Silverado Z71 in person for the first time I guess, because that was love at first sight! Haha

i remember seeing it online but thought it was that red/purple color they had. Once I realized it wasn’t, it was screw Toyota! Haha

well that point came after I got in it. Had all my requirements and was 14k cheaper than the Yota. I know Tundra is a great truck, but you pay a premium for a lot less “extras”. 

 

I’m not a brand loyal person at all, but a year after buying my 18 Z71, if I had to do it all over again, I’d buy the exact same truck. 

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I bought a 2018 LTZ Z71 last July. I took it to a shop to have PPF put on. We just had a fairly bad hail storm here that I drove a 2003 Buick Regal though. I thought the windshield was going to break it was hitting so hard and was very surprised the sheet metal didn't take any damage. I commented to the guy (because they also do hail repair) that I just went through storm in my Regal and not one dent. His reply, good thing you weren't in a Tundra.

 

Not sure how well a Silverado would have faired vs a Tundra though. And I hope I don't find out.

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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My 93 Silverado sat outside for over 20 years here in Colorado.

Never got a dent one from hail while my neighbors newer vehicles were damaged.

The metal today is real thin compared to years ago.

I bet I could do a few thousand dollars damage to my 12 with my fist.

 

:)

Sierra Dan Senior Enthusiast

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15 hours ago, CamaroVetteGuy said:

I am a Chevy guy in terms of my past Camaro’s and Corvettes.

I am a Toyota guy coming from 4Runners and I still drive a 2000 Landcruiser.

I recently bought a 2017 Silverado LTZ crew cab after thinking I was going to buy a Tundra.

I am a big fan of Toyota because of their reliability. My Landcruiser has 189000 miles and still goes strong.

That being said I could not believe how horrible the Tundra’s drove. They have a very floaty feeling to them and have soft brakes.

I was amazed how planted the Chevy was when I test drove it. Very nice interior and tech. 

The thing that kills me is they are made in Mexico. My father was giving me crap about Toyota’s until I told him they were made in Texas. He always buys the W/T version and those are made in the US.

Anyway I love the Silverado I hope it is a work horse for years to come

The Fort Wayne assembled Silverado/Sierra parts are from Mexico. So really it does not matter where they are assembled.

As far as Tundra goes.... it is Long in the tooth design wise and the refresh is due this fall/early next year as it is in testing now.

L86 All Terrain Senior Enthusiast

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Toyota has not been the same Toyota since the T100's. Those were special trucks. These new ones are a glorified Rams in my opinion that has remained basically unchanged since what, 2009? Not that the K2/T1 are anything special and probably 30% as reliable as the Toyota, but I would still take one over the outdated Tundra, same story with the Titan.

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4 minutes ago, Sierra Dan said:

The Fort Wayne assembled Silverado/Sierra parts are from Mexico. So really it does not matter where they are assembled.

As far as Tundra goes.... it is Long in the tooth design wise and the refresh is due this fall/early next year as it is in testing now.

Yes I have heard the new Tundra will be coming out in the next couple of years. May have a hybrid system. But the current truck did not feel secure or planted like the Silverado. I love Toyota reliability, here’s to hoping the Silverado can give me years of good service

NWI Denali Enthusiast

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I love how the prices of the Tundras have climbed right beside all of the other 1/2 tons when all of the other ones have been updated and remodeled. The Tundra is literally a 13 yr old design with a mid-cycle refresh 6 yrs ago. :lol: And Toyota has the audacity to charge $55k for the same truck they charged $35k for back in '07. Problem is, the Toyota kool-aid drinkers keep buying em so theyll keep charging that.

 

I get it if you value reliability. However, the discount up front on domestics coupled with the fuel saved over 100k miles vs the abysmal tundra mpg can pay for a lot of repairs over the years.

 

 

Sierra Dan Senior Enthusiast

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Reliability is misleading and broad term.

Many GM trucks make it to a quarter million miles.

Many Tundras bite the dust before 100k

RAM is setting the bar and sliding up the truck market chain just by having a "Nice" interior and not through Reliability.

I have owned a Toyota Camry that was junk. Dumped it in favor of a Nissan Altima that has been flawless.

Wife has had an early 2000s Impala that made it to 238,000 before timing chain gave out.

My synopsis...…  I wouldn't buy a Tundra just because word on the street says it is a Reliable truck.

 

 

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I think the best a Tundra can do is 17mpg on the highway. Most over at the Tundra are getting around 14 moxed.  I’m averaging 20 with mixed driving on my Silverado w/o a tonneau cover. The Tundra V8 did not feel any stronger to me during test drives than the 5.3.

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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Reliability is misleading and broad term.
Many GM trucks make it to a quarter million miles.
Many Tundras bite the dust before 100k
RAM is setting the bar and sliding up the truck market chain just by having a "Nice" interior and not through Reliability.
I have owned a Toyota Camry that was junk. Dumped it in favor of a Nissan Altima that has been flawless.
Wife has had an early 2000s Impala that made it to 238,000 before timing chain gave out.
My synopsis...…  I wouldn't buy a Tundra just because word on the street says it is a Reliable truck.
 
 

I see way more old Camrys and Accords on the road than anything else. That’s a given being there’re the most popular. Trucks I see more old Fords and Tacoma’s.


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Wiggums Senior Enthusiast

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By looking at the 2019 models in chevrolet.com website, it seems all the single cabs are made in Mexico while all the double cabs are American. As for crew cabs, I looked at over 250 samples and tried to tell if a certain trim or long/short bed made the difference but it was a mixed bag. All trims could either have the 1 or 3 in the VIN. My method was to go in the inventory part and hover the mouse over the picture of the trucks. The VIN will show up in the bottom of the Chrome screen so I could see either 1 or 3. I know when I was in Tijuana at the Chevrolet dealership, they had three new Cheyenne trucks (Mexicans call Silverado that) and all were made in the U.S., but the two Silverado (The WT trucks are called that) were single cabs and both Mexican-made.

 

As for quality and workmanship between American-made and Mexican-made, I could not tell the difference. I don't understand why some are so pent up over it. There's been articles done on that. Remember, it's robots that make cars nowadays. So if the robots were in Mongolia and made Silverados, it would still come out the same. And Americans celebrating over the iPhone being made in America, robots still get paid the same in China, don't they? Factories don't employ many people anymore.

 

I am not into brand loyalty and I probably would go back to the F-150, but it depends on the 2020 refresh, resale value, and the incentives. When I bought my 2019, I wanted an all-new so it was either the RAM or Chevrolet. Ford was getting a little outdated.

 

The Silverado I have right now, the front handles much better up than my F-150 did, but the back seems to fishtail a lot more. As for interior, some have said Silverado is cheaper than the F-150, but I always thought my F-150 felt cheaper inside compared to my new Silverado RST. Maybe it's based on the trim.

 

The bed of the Silverado is only 2 inches longer but I was able to get 7 more inches diagonally in the bed. I know because my 2012 was a 5.6' and when I camped, my legs or head kept bumping the walls while I slept in the bed. My 2019 Silverado has only 5.8' but I had way more room to roll around in the back while sleeping diagonally. So the width is much wider and I didn't need to get a long bed.

 

I would not consider the Tundra, it's ancient and gas mileage is horrible. Although interior was solid and nice, it was missing a lot of the modern convenience American pick-up trucks have. And no Android Auto / CarPlay? That's a deal breaker for me. It looks like Toyota finally realized it and will be introducing it next year but it's too late.

 

Reliability, I never had problems with any one of my Ford trucks. I'd rather get much better gas mileage, better price, tech stuff inside, and Android Auto. Sure, the Tundra holds value very well. I considered that.. but then again...

 

Toyota: MSRP $48,000. No incentives.

Three years later, it's worth $33,000.

 

Ford: MSRP $50,000. Incentives push down to $38,000.

Three years later, it's worth $30,000.

 

So I lose $15,000 with the Toyota or $8,000 with the Ford. That's why the resale value shown in websites are worthless, I think it's based on people buying at retail price. Nobody does that, well, except for the Toyota buyers.

 

The 2019 Chevrolet will hold value even better because it is all-new. I can't think of a single reason to buy Tundra over any American truck. Slightly better reliability? That's it?

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2 hours ago, CamaroVetteGuy said:

I think the best a Tundra can do is 17mpg on the highway. Most over at the Tundra are getting around 14 moxed.  I’m averaging 20 with mixed driving on my Silverado w/o a tonneau cover. The Tundra V8 did not feel any stronger to me during test drives than the 5.3.

Exactly. And if you extrapolate that 14mpg vs 20 mpg out over 100k miles @ 3 bucks a gallon, that's $6400 difference.

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