My cold start knock/tick issues continues "no repair available"

KARNUT · September 22, 2019

I recently changed the oil in my 92 350. I had a little tic at start up. I went from 5-10w30. The tic is gone. I know the recommended weight of the 5.3. Maybe that’s the trade off.

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ct_corey · September 23, 2019

20 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I recently changed the oil in my 92 350. I had a little tic at start up. I went from 5-10w30. The tic is gone. I know the recommended weight of the 5.3. Maybe that’s the trade off.

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I have been sticking with what the recommends just incase I have any more warranty issues.

The noise does almost go away after a fresh oil change but then comes back at about 1000 miles.

ct_corey · September 23, 2019

21 hours ago, Rail Boss said:

Well, dealer called me to come get the truck, decided that the noise is normal if it lasts less than 7min. Invoiced is attached with references to bulletins.

I refused to pick up the vehicle because it still has the same noise I brought it in for 3weeks ago, ....not fixed. Guess I will wait another week until lemon law can be executed.

I told the service writer if we go out on the lot and start 3 new trucks with the same engine and they all knock, that I would agree it is normal. He did not take the challenge.

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That's crazy that they replaced all the lifters and it still makes the noise.

BIGDOGx · September 24, 2019

On 9/22/2019 at 11:08 AM, Rail Boss said:

Well, dealer called me to come get the truck, decided that the noise is normal if it lasts less than 7min. Invoiced is attached with references to bulletins.

I refused to pick up the vehicle because it still has the same noise I brought it in for 3weeks ago, ....not fixed. Guess I will wait another week until lemon law can be executed.

I told the service writer if we go out on the lot and start 3 new trucks with the same engine and they all knock, that I would agree it is normal. He did not take the challenge.

INVOICE REDACTED.pdf 2.33 MB · 16 downloads

I hate to say it but cant say im shocked here, all dealers now hide behind the it's normal crap line they give!

ct_corey · September 24, 2019

The original bulletin I got states if the noise goes past the 5-7 minute mark then proceed with more diag. The last version I saw now states 10 mins. Its a joke how the are just adding time to cover themselves from having to actually fix it. Its more then a tick. It sounds like the motor a has a spun rod bearing.

I guess now we know with even replacing the lifters the noise is not fixed. Man I cant wait to get rid of this turd.

Rail Boss · September 24, 2019

1 hour ago, ct_corey said:

The original bulletin I got states if the noise goes past the 5-7 minute mark then proceed with more diag. The last version I saw now states 10 mins. Its a joke how the are just adding time to cover themselves from having to actually fix it. Its more then a tick. It sounds like the motor a has a spun rod bearing.

I guess now we know with even replacing the lifters the noise is not fixed. Man I cant wait to get rid of this turd.

Most recent version I found was 5606D NOTE the L82 5.3 AFM is not on listed.

NHTSA ID Number 10163674.pdf

Edited September 24, 2019 by Rail Boss
wrong file

ct_corey · September 24, 2019

21 minutes ago, Rail Boss said:

Most recent version I found was 5606D NOTE the L82 5.3 AFM is not on listed.

NHTSA ID Number 10163674.pdf 121.43 kB · 2 downloads

Weird. The dealer told me the my truck falls into the PIP5606 bulletin(custom TB). Looks like this last time was a big update. They added a lot more vehicles. They also added

As analysis from returned parts is completed, PI will be updated accordingly. When the ﬁnal repair is conﬁrmed this PI will be changed to a Bulletin.

Hum · September 25, 2019

As soon as I start cold I get a lifter click from oil bleed off and within seconds it quiets down. When hot there is diesel chatter. I am worried however regarding vibration above 57 mph to 70 mph. I am paying out of pocket $25.00 per front wheel to have balance under load of each. It feels like balance issue to me. I will come back tomorrow night with answer. If that does not fix vibration I will be very unhappy driving back to Florida with that issue because those speeds are my towing speed of TT weighing 7250 lbs! I usually tow at 65 mph and shake bothers me a lot. Below 57 is not practical and above 70 is not either for sure.

ct_corey · September 25, 2019

3 hours ago, Hum said:

As soon as I start cold I get a lifter click from oil bleed off and within seconds it quiets down. When hot there is diesel chatter. I am worried however regarding vibration above 57 mph to 70 mph. I am paying out of pocket $25.00 per front wheel to have balance under load of each. It feels like balance issue to me. I will come back tomorrow night with answer. If that does not fix vibration I will be very unhappy driving back to Florida with that issue because those speeds are my towing speed of TT weighing 7250 lbs! I usually tow at 65 mph and shake bothers me a lot. Below 57 is not practical and above 70 is not either for sure.

different noise then what we have. Watch the video. This is a loud engine knock that lasts for minutes

Rail Boss · September 25, 2019

8 hours ago, Hum said:

As soon as I start cold I get a lifter click from oil bleed off and within seconds it quiets down. When hot there is diesel chatter.

I think that is related to the noises I have except its not a constant pattern and lasts several minutes. What is the yr make model engine , etc.....?

ct_corey · September 26, 2019

21 hours ago, Rail Boss said:

I think that is related to the noises I have except its not a constant pattern and lasts several minutes. What is the yr make model engine , etc.....?

did you end up picking your truck up?

Rail Boss · October 2, 2019

On 9/26/2019 at 10:28 AM, ct_corey said:

did you end up picking your truck up?

Latest update, I did get the first dealer to start up a new truck next to my 3,200mi truck and of course the new one didnt have the noise. I picked up the truck took it to another dealer who said the same thing. Referred me back to a bulletin PIP5606 explaining the engineers are working on figuring out the cause of the problem and a solution. Seeing how the first release of this bulletin was in October 2018 stating they are working on a solution, i don't think the engineers are in any hurry to find the problem. The bulletin was also updated 2 weeks ago to include all 2019 V8's. GM corporate said they understand my frustration but will not work with me towards a buyback, exchange, or engine replacement. My feeling of the attitude was it's your problem now, nothing we can do about it, quit calling.

My plan of action is continue talking to lemon law lawyers, file complaint with BBB, file complaint with consumer rights groups, have some magnets made for the truck and park outside various Chevy dealers with a bull horn to warn people on the lot not to buy. The first time I did that they got pissed! Other courses of action will include contacting local media with my hours of recorded conversations with GM service and mechanics agreeing that its not normal. I can't rule out taking my magnets and bull horn right up to GM corporate headquarters in MI. Maybe some folks would like to join me.

ct_corey · October 3, 2019

13 hours ago, Rail Boss said:

Latest update, I did get the first dealer to start up a new truck next to my 3,200mi truck and of course the new one didnt have the noise. I picked up the truck took it to another dealer who said the same thing. Referred me back to a bulletin PIP5606 explaining the engineers are working on figuring out the cause of the problem and a solution. Seeing how the first release of this bulletin was in October 2018 stating they are working on a solution, i don't think the engineers are in any hurry to find the problem. The bulletin was also updated 2 weeks ago to include all 2019 V8's. GM corporate said they understand my frustration but will not work with me towards a buyback, exchange, or engine replacement. My feeling of the attitude was it's your problem now, nothing we can do about it, quit calling.

My plan of action is continue talking to lemon law lawyers, file complaint with BBB, file complaint with consumer rights groups, have some magnets made for the truck and park outside various Chevy dealers with a bull horn to warn people on the lot not to buy. The first time I did that they got pissed! Other courses of action will include contacting local media with my hours of recorded conversations with GM service and mechanics agreeing that its not normal. I can't rule out taking my magnets and bull horn right up to GM corporate headquarters in MI. Maybe some folks would like to join me.

I got the same feedback from GM. Basically telling me there is nothing they can do. Its such a kick in the nuts after spending 45k on a truck. They got to a point where they wouldn't answer my calls or call me back at all. When I asked to speak to the department manager, they were never available and didn't have voicemail. Pure bullshit. By far the worse service I have ever dealt with.

One day I called and my "case manager" would not answer. This went on for a few days. I tried one last time and still no answer. I called right back from a different phone and on the first ring she picked up. When I told her my name she was in shock. I was disgusted that they were screening my calls. Keep in mind I never was mean or rude, I just wanted answers.

Only thing you can do is pursue the Lemon law.