Average cost for an oil change

[Grumpy Bear]

5 hours ago, newdude said:

 

Depends on my mood LOL.  If I'm busy, 4k?  I usually keep it aroun 3k or slightly over. 

0.11 - .015 cents per mile then. 

[Colossus]

It is my belief that the consumer's demand for a lower cost oil change also drives down the quality of the oil change.  The quick lube places, dealers, and some of the independent shops as a result, will use cheaper oils and the cheap oil filters that are not any good for no more than 2000-3000 miles before they are plugged and in bypass.

[KARNUT]

It is my belief that the consumer's demand for a lower cost oil change also drives down the quality of the oil change.  The quick lube places, dealers, and some of the independent shops as a result, will use cheaper oils and the cheap oil filters that are not any good for no more than 2000-3000 miles before they are plugged and in bypass.

The quick lube places I had to use when working out of town always used manufacturer approved oil. My granddaughter and her mother always used any quick lube place in changing the oil of their vehicles. Using their cheapest option. Their oldest family car a 300 Chrysler is approaching 300K miles. Believe me they rarely changed the oil before 5K miles. Personally when I had to use quick lubes I used a blend or synthetic. When I questioned about their cheaper oil. They explained they bought in bulk that’s why it was cheaper. If you have knowledge of un approved oil that quick lube places use please let us know. I don’t group people or business together. There’s good and bad across the board. The internet is a good place to get information on most businesses through costumer feedback. The dozens of quick lube places and dealers I was forced to use when working out of town were interested in repeat business. And did good jobs.


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[TXGREEK]

The quick lube places I had to use when working out of town always used manufacturer approved oil. My granddaughter and her mother always used any quick lube place in changing the oil of their vehicles. Using their cheapest option. Their oldest family car a 300 Chrysler is approaching 300K miles. Believe me they rarely changed the oil before 5K miles. Personally when I had to use quick lubes I used a blend or synthetic. When I questioned about their cheaper oil. They explained they bought in bulk that’s why it was cheaper. If you have knowledge of un approved oil that quick lube places use please let us know. I don’t group people or business together. There’s good and bad across the board. The internet is a good place to get information on most businesses through costumer feedback. The dozens of quick lube places and dealers I was forced to use when working out of town were interested in repeat business. And did good jobs.


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Growing up, I never understood what the difference was between a $20 oil change and a $40 oil change, thought one shop made more than others on same one type of oil, boy was I wrong! Quick Lube shops buy remanufactured oil, rebrand, sell as their name brand but not Dexos approved. The insane thing is most people that buy from places like this could care less, thinking everything is the same, just remanufactured and treated to meet minimum requirements, whatever that is lol. To each their own, but like I always say, buy the best, buy what you can afford.


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[KARNUT]

Growing up, I never understood what the difference was between a $20 oil change and a $40 oil change, thought one shop made more than others on same one type of oil, boy was I wrong! Quick Lube shops buy remanufactured oil, rebrand, sell as their name brand but not Dexos approved. The insane thing is most people that buy from places like this could care less, thinking everything is the same, just remanufactured and treated to meet minimum requirements, whatever that is lol. To each their own, but like I always say, buy the best, buy what you can afford.


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Some people view cars and trucks as appliances and treat them as such. They chose to use quick lube services. There’s at least a dozen in my town. You don’t really see vehicles failing these days because of oil. At least in their normal service life. What is there normal service life? If you want to know what the manufacturer thinks, look in the maintenance part. As far as re refined oil. I remember reading an article years ago that it was better. I’ve never used it.


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[outrag1]

Changed oil myself at 3000 miles on my 2018.  I got my supplies of 8qts full syn 0/20 (I forget the brand but it was Penz or Valvoline or something decent) and PF63 AC Delco filter at Walmart on special for around $44 for everything.  I did not reset the oil change clock because I wanted it to be invisible to the dealer.

 

Yesterday I got my first of two free maintenance services at the dealer at 7000 miles, which includes oil change, tire rotation, checklist of things.  I'll do the second free maintenance at the dealer next spring and probably keep to what GM recommends after that to minimize any warranty issues. 

 

If the truck was out of warranty, I would do whatever I wanted, but until then I'll go by what GM and the dealer says. 

 

As far as the dealer cost for the maintenance service if I had exhausted my freebies, I believe it's around $60.  They are always sending coupons, etc. with that price. 

[Grumpy Bear]

18 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Some people view cars and trucks as appliances and treat them as such. They chose to use quick lube services. There’s at least a dozen in my town. You don’t really see vehicles failing these days because of oil. At least in their normal service life. What is there normal service life? If you want to know what the manufacturer thinks, look in the maintenance part. As far as re refined oil. I remember reading an article years ago that it was better. I’ve never used it.
 

Perhaps most do. Treat them like an appliance. Or worse. It's sad how many owners can't tell the difference between a spark plug and a fire plug. Don't check their fluids or tires. Wait until something breaks to service it. And still they, the power trains, on average seem live a average normal life. I think sometimes we hack on the OEM a bit too much. I mean who could plan for such apathy and still win? 

 

Use to be able to buy recycled oil at Hudson stations. Since that refinery died I have no idea where one would buy it other than the Valvoline Next Gen series. 

[swathdiver]

When I sold truck parts, I had customers request and purchase recycled oil and anti-freeze for their trucks.  No complaints.  When I managed a Jiffy Lube, we used Pennzoil oils and had just switched to their filters and never had a problem with the quality of either in any vehicle.  The main problem with these places is the training and attitude of the employees.

 

Yesterday, my daughter learned a hard lesson.  I'd already sworn off Tire Kingdom, a popular tire store in the South Eastern United States.  I used to work for them and knew the original owner and was a loyal customer.  My last straw came after I pulled up and the tire truck pulled in right behind me, blocking my truck in.  Well, when my turn came, a salesman went out and pulled my truck into the bay, the big truck never moved.  The goofball drove over the curb, backed into the liftgate handles scratching my bumper cover and then denied it all like the coward he is.  Upper management and even the new CEO ignored my chastising and never offered compensation.  At another store the management was openly smoking marijuana.  So yesterday, they fixed a flat on my daughter's car under warranty and she comes out to her car and her door handle is laying on the ground.  Nobody has a clue how that happened.

   I have since gone to a local family owned chain of tire stores and they've been great and their employees don't look like they were just bailed out of jail.

 

  

[TXGREEK]

Just found this info on Royal Purple Oil Filters

http://www.royalpurple.com/consumer/extended-life-oil-filters/


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[TXGREEK]

All this time and I just noticed there’s a label on the back of my Amsoil Container, Anyone using Amsoil along with E85 fuel in their vehicles are not recommended to do extended OCI’s. Just peeled the back off my Amsoil Sig Series container and found this





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[KARNUT]

I’m with Amsoil to the max. GM engines with cylinder deactivation I wouldn’t go more than 5K miles with any oil. I would probably use Amsoil engine flush every so often too. But I wouldn’t own a cylinder deactivation engine no matter the brand.


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[TXGREEK]

I’m with Amsoil to the max. GM engines with cylinder deactivation I wouldn’t go more than 5K miles with any oil. I would probably use Amsoil engine flush every so often too. But I wouldn’t own a cylinder deactivation engine no matter the brand.


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I just found it interesting that using E85 fuel is considered modified or modified results therefore Amsoil Sig Series breaks down sooner while running E85 and justifies it as severe use when using E85. I run approximately 6-7 gallons of E85 as a cleaning boost and never do extended OCI’s but apparently E85 breaks down “ALL” oil sooner requiring sooner OCI’s and never extending the life of the manufacturers recommended OCI’s


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[Grumpy Bear]

1 hour ago, TXGREEK said:

 

I just found it interesting that using E85 fuel is considered modified or modified results therefore Amsoil Sig Series breaks down sooner while running E85 and justifies it as severe use when using E85. I run approximately 6-7 gallons of E85 as a cleaning boost and never do extended OCI’s but apparently E85 breaks down “ALL” oil sooner requiring sooner OCI’s and never extending the life of the manufacturers recommended OCI’s


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Alcohol laden fuels generate more water as a combustion byproduct. Esters are not water friendly. AMSOIL SS has a lot of ester. Not sure it would matter IF the cylinder is sealing well but who knows. Could just be a bit of CYA going on to. CNG and Propane are just dry gasses and lack the upper cylinder lube qualities of gasoline and diesel fuels. As good a stab in the dark as I have on this one. 

 

 

 

[Grumpy Bear]

On 11/20/2019 at 8:37 AM, Colossus said:

It is my belief that the consumer's demand for a lower cost oil change also drives down the quality of the oil change.  The quick lube places, dealers, and some of the independent shops as a result, will use cheaper oils and the cheap oil filters that are not any good for no more than 2000-3000 miles before they are plugged and in bypass.

My local guy uses Car Quest materials. Most of Car Quest lubrication products are from Amalie Oil. He offers both conventional and Full Synthetic. Amalie is a pretty solid product. Do not recall who makes their filters. NAPA car care centers use Valvoline and WIX using the NAPA name. Jiffy Lube is Pennzoil now Shell.... 

 

My issue isn't with their products so much as it is the training and SUPERVISION or lack there of. That is not a hard and fast rule just a local observation. 

[Black02Silverado]

It is my understanding that the main reason is for the moisture absorption and the oil can get contaminated more from combustion by-products.  I guess they see most as to not go through a tank full of fuel often and if it sits then it can cause more problems maybe???

 

All I know is that my UOA's running E85 have been great if not better than when running regular fuel.  Plus if there are issues, why I don't see the reason, it covers AMSOIL as to not do extended.  I see online all the time those that goe 25k without UOA's.  I believe in AMSOIL but you can't go that distance blind.  AMSOIL also use to state that they recommend UOA's when doing extended drains as such.