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I'm all for the guy wanting to mod his truck but the first few posts didn't help him any. No budget, no goals, no desire to search the WORLD WIDE WEB for parts.

 

Simple things like "silverado supercharger or turbo kits" would have lead to something. silverado "mods", camshafts, exhaust etc etc all would have brought something up. God forbid it took a few hours over the course of a few days to sift through stuff to get a grasp of it.

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I'm all for the guy wanting to mod his truck but the first few posts didn't help him any. No budget, no goals, no desire to search the WORLD WIDE WEB for parts.
 
Simple things like "silverado supercharger or turbo kits" would have lead to something. silverado "mods", camshafts, exhaust etc etc all would have brought something up. God forbid it took a few hours over the course of a few days to sift through stuff to get a grasp of it.
Cam, I agree with your statement for the most part. I'm not saying we all shouldn't gain knowledge on the machines we have or work on but if you think about it for a sec, perhaps some of these guys or gals have less experience than many other people on here. Perhaps they haven't had the opportunity to gain such experience like some others.

I for one know very little about much of these trucks and cars coming out but can handle myself with the LS blocks and the newer vortec with confidence. I have only had this L83 for a few months but am learning what I can about it for when I can dive in and tune it.

I'm not bustin your chops or anything like that, just trying to share a different perspective. I always look forward to your input on many of these posts. Like many of us, I come on to this forum to get opinions from people that have experience with items on do not.

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Some folks are brand new to the Truck game. Or brand new to the Truck modding scene. Some are even new to online forums as a resource. Therefore knowing where to start can be tough. Sure, you can just go on google and search "Performance Truck Parts" or specifically your "year/make/model/engine + performance". The problem there is you don't know what you're going to get or how credible. 

 

 We have a lot of Veteran members here whom have done it  to their rides and carry a wealth of knowledge. It was actually a very smart tactic to come in and ask for opinions. I certainly have made 30,000 mistakes with my truck and will certainly voice my opinion for those who want to get more out of their "baby". 

 

If you're not aloud to ask questions what's the point of having a "FORUM". *(a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged)*

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12 hours ago, DenaliX14 said:

Some folks are brand new to the Truck game. Or brand new to the Truck modding scene. Some are even new to online forums as a resource. Therefore knowing where to start can be tough. Sure, you can just go on google and search "Performance Truck Parts" or specifically your "year/make/model/engine + performance". The problem there is you don't know what you're going to get or how credible. 

 

 We have a lot of Veteran members here whom have done it  to their rides and carry a wealth of knowledge. It was actually a very smart tactic to come in and ask for opinions. I certainly have made 30,000 mistakes with my truck and will certainly voice my opinion for those who want to get more out of their "baby". 

 

If you're not aloud to ask questions what's the point of having a "FORUM". *(a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged)*

this couldn't be broken down any better 

 

I've claimed I know about airride and hydraulic suspension along with custom metal fabrication.

I guarantee I can school your ass all day with knowledge about geometry and the 1 million possibilities for setups . and yes I did learn most of my shit off a forum that doesn't exist anymore I truly needed and relied on that back in the day. now many builds later I can build my own frames and design every little aspect. 

 

 

well im pretty much back to the basics when it comes to engine mods. im not looking for everything you know and every little trick ill learn that shit along the way clearly. but thanks to two people on this website they've guided me in the right direction. I thought I had a l85 which was providing no information "you people" act like I didn't try that first lmfao hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

 

one other thing how many of these trucks are out there extremely modified and daily driven? not that many if you think about it . all I wanted to know is if it was possible to build a engine NA and everybody freaks out 

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13 minutes ago, Slowarado18 said:

...all I wanted to know is if it was possible to build a engine NA 

Of course you can, all it takes is money.  How fast do you want to go$$$

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Back in the day and with mostly factory parts the Ford FE series motors could be built with displacements between 332 and 445 CID in one cubic inch increments and in power densities between 0.75 to 1.25 HP/CID on pump gas and without a supercharger. Then if that wasn't enough you looked at the aftermarket. 

 

Well E85 has brought back 100 octane fuel but displacement is hard to come by. Thin wall open deck motors and low deck heights have pistons peeking out the bottom of the cylinder with but a whisper of added stroke. Add the factory control systems now have motors docile as kittens at 1.25 HP/CID NA using compression and camming you would have gone to the aftermarket for then.

 

There just isn't enough platform nor enough fat in the factory build anymore to build impressive power without twisting the crap out of it or force feeding air.  Oh they will still sell you the parts and make the claims but.....

 

Your a fabricator, right? English wheel? Spend the money on weight reduction. Start with a RCSB WT1 and loose 1,000 pounds with a blink of an eye. Go from there. 

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Back in the day and with mostly factory parts the Ford FE series motors could be built with displacements between 332 and 445 CID in one cubic inch increments and in power densities between 0.75 to 1.25 HP/CID on pump gas and without a supercharger. Then if that wasn't enough you looked at the aftermarket. 
 
Well E85 has brought back 100 octane fuel but displacement is hard to come by. Thin wall open deck motors and low deck heights have pistons peeking out the bottom of the cylinder with but a whisper of added stroke. Add the factory control systems now have motors docile as kittens at 1.25 HP/CID NA using compression and camming you would have gone to the aftermarket for then.
 
There just isn't enough platform nor enough fat in the factory build anymore to build impressive power without twisting the crap out of it or force feeding air.  Oh they will still sell you the parts and make the claims but.....
 
Your a fabricator, right? English wheel? Spend the money on weight reduction. Start with a RCSB WT1 and loose 1,000 pounds with a blink of an eye. Go from there. 

Just imagine GM doing like Ram does. The 6.2 in a RCSB WT1 and a gear. I’ve seen Ram RCs RTs around here. A few years back on Gears Stacy David had a hemi Ram for under 20K. Did a build from there. A GM SS truck would be easy.


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1 hour ago, KARNUT said:


Just imagine GM doing like Ram does. The 6.2 in a RCSB WT1 and a gear. I’ve seen Ram RCs RTs around here. A few years back on Gears Stacy David had a hemi Ram for under 20K. Did a build from there. A GM SS truck would be easy.


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F the Ram look at all the brand new 5.0 RCSWB supercharged trucks for sale at various stealerships around the country with 650-700 hp for 10k over sticker with a limited warranty. Bang for the buck nobody is going to beat this. 

 

It’s to bad GM has decided to only sell T1 RCSWB in the middle east even though they come off the assembly line here... I’d love to see what Callaway would do with them? I read some article with a interview with a GM executive & he said something to the effect of we’re looking into releasing them into the North American market based on interest. I ain’t holding my breath...

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F the Ram look at all the brand new 5.0 RCSWB supercharged trucks for sale at various stealerships around the country with 650-700 hp for 10k over sticker with a limited warranty. Bang for the buck nobody is going to beat this. 
 
It’s to bad GM has decided to only sell T1 RCSWB in the middle east even though they come off the assembly line here... I’d love to see what Callaway would do with them? I read some article with a interview with a GM executive & he said something to the effect of we’re looking into releasing them into the North American market based on interest. I ain’t holding my breath...

Dealer tuner trucks are easy to find in my area for a price. Striped V-8 platforms for a starting point was the point. Yes Ford and Ram both do that.


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On 1/2/2020 at 9:56 AM, Grumpy Bear said:

Back in the day and with mostly factory parts the Ford FE series motors could be built with displacements between 332 and 445 CID in one cubic inch increments and in power densities between 0.75 to 1.25 HP/CID on pump gas and without a supercharger. Then if that wasn't enough you looked at the aftermarket. 

 

Well E85 has brought back 100 octane fuel but displacement is hard to come by. Thin wall open deck motors and low deck heights have pistons peeking out the bottom of the cylinder with but a whisper of added stroke. Add the factory control systems now have motors docile as kittens at 1.25 HP/CID NA using compression and camming you would have gone to the aftermarket for then.

 

There just isn't enough platform nor enough fat in the factory build anymore to build impressive power without twisting the crap out of it or force feeding air.  Oh they will still sell you the parts and make the claims but.....

 

Your a fabricator, right? English wheel? Spend the money on weight reduction. Start with a RCSB WT1 and loose 1,000 pounds with a blink of an eye. Go from there. 

1000 lbs would be worth it I've seen these guys saying they've removed little piece here and there loosing unto 180 pounds lol . thanks ill look into it 

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thanks for all the help guys I've decided na is way to much money it would be smarter to buy that 40 000$ built motor and trans

 

but im going to be looking into turbos and superchargers to produce some bigger numbers much easier and affordable 

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16 hours ago, Slowarado18 said:

thanks for all the help guys I've decided na is way to much money it would be smarter to buy that 40 000$ built motor and trans

 

but im going to be looking into turbos and superchargers to produce some bigger numbers much easier and affordable 

I stand by it every time. Wait till Black Friday. Go onto Whipple's website and purchase a Whipple kit w/programer ($5,500). Spend a weekend installing and BAM you have yourself a completely different animal. 

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Honestly pistons wont do **** all .. for more power these enginesalready have 11.1 comp.

 

U want power about 140 more 

Do a stage 2 texas speed cam 

L86 intake and th

Shorty pipes (long tubes if u intend on the fu cat back) 

Cai 

And maybe a tru dual cat back 

And a tune after its all done. Get an hp tuners unlocked ecu and tcm and they can calibrate ur engine and seriously have real engine power. Some 5.3 can put out over 500 if u have the right combo .... rich holender has a tin of dyno oroven setups .  This engine is a serkus engine already for a stock set up.  #1 thing u need is an unlocked ecu. Pistons are fine unless u plan on a 150 shot other wise forged flpistins hust break the budget.  U can do all that above for under 4 if u shop smart and do most all irself minus the tune. 

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