For You Electric Vehicle Fans

diyer2 · November 6, 2021

Article link https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/budweiser-beer-nikola-hydrogen-electric-semi-truck/

Grumpy Bear · November 10, 2021

Happen to catch 60 Minutes this week?

Seems the solution to saving the earth is to destroy the earth?

At least this truck isn't ugly

:dunno:

diyer2 · November 10, 2021

No I didn't see 60 mins.

Donstar · November 10, 2021

I'm not familiar with the 60 min. story yet, but I will make a point of watching. I am interested in the transition to electric powered vehicles and don't doubt there are potential large scale problems. The movement to EV's is driven by large scale problems by continuing with existing way of powering our personal transportation. Unless something happens to slow the momentum, I'm excited about my next truck being electric. I'll either convert my existing truck or buy new. Those of you who drove pickups in the seventies, like me, will love this... https://flip.it/2LEFdp

Grumpy Bear · November 11, 2021

9 hours ago, Donstar said:

I'm not familiar with the 60 min. story yet, but I will make a point of watching. I am interested in the transition to electric powered vehicles and don't doubt there are potential large scale problems. The movement to EV's is driven by large scale problems by continuing with existing way of powering our personal transportation. Unless something happens to slow the momentum, I'm excited about my next truck being electric. I'll either convert my existing truck or buy new. Those of you who drove pickups in the seventies, like me, will love this... https://flip.it/2LEFdp

Two things humans are not good at. 1.) We want before we know how. 2.) Never ask if having the ability to do something is the same thing as the best thing to do.

Ford certainly knows how to push all the right buttons. I'll give them that. But so did Satan. If I remember correctly that didn't work out so good for earth either.

SILVER SLED · November 11, 2021

I hate how they talk about the trucks having 0 emissions. There should be some sort of widely used universal scale to compare or be made aware of the amount of environmental damage an ev makes compared to a similar non ev vehicle.

I also wish the batteries would be produced in California and then see how hard the state would push fork electric vehicles.

Grumpy Bear · November 11, 2021

54 minutes ago, SILVER SLED said:

I hate how they talk about the trucks having 0 emissions. There should be some sort of widely used universal scale to compare or be made aware of the amount of environmental damage an ev makes compared to a similar non ev vehicle.

I also wish the batteries would be produced in California and then see how hard the state would push fork electric vehicles.

Just read an article stating that the CO2 from auto emissions stays in the atmosphere for hundreds of years while the methane from a cows fart is done in very short order. I don't know about the cows but someone missed the oxygen cycle in grammar school science class. By their logic humans exhaling is damaging the planet.

https://agreenerworld.org/a-greener-world/a-convenient-untruth/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-K2MBhC-ARIsAMtLKRuyM8U_hpKfuR9ooMTwERQP0XJxtxchz3onDdrglFtDNhrNlPE7wuUaAj3MEALw_wcB

See the problem here?

G-R-E-E-D

Getting a universal scale assumes 1.) THEY know. 2.) THEY want you to know 3.) You knowing won't impede their efforts or $$$$ bottom line.

Biggest liars on the planet are marketers and everyone uses them to promote an agenda. Lobbyist are the largest most well financed marketing group on earth.

pokismoki · November 12, 2021

On 11/10/2021 at 5:01 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

Ford certainly knows how to push all the right buttons. I'll give them that. But so did Satan. If I remember correctly that didn't work out so good for earth either.

I wish you would do a basic religeous teaching class for us heathens that never been in a church before, I feel I would learn a lot from you..

SILVER SLED · November 12, 2021

So now there is a diesel fuel shortage...

Silverado4x4 · November 12, 2021

25 minutes ago, SILVER SLED said:

So now there is a diesel fuel shortage...

Thats is what they want, they want to keep raising the price of all fossil fuels to where the price is so high that it will make their green energy look better. Why do you think that they want to shut down the pipelines from Canada to Michigan and the stop build of the Keystone XL line? To drive fossil fuel prices up to make electric power which were not ready for look good and people will fall for it. This country is the laughing stock of the world right now and it's a shame.

Grumpy Bear · November 12, 2021

31 minutes ago, Silverado4x4 said:

Why do you think that they want to shut down the pipelines from Canada to Michigan and the stop build of the Keystone XL line? To drive fossil fuel prices up to make electric power which were not ready for look good and people will fall for it. This country is the laughing stock of the world right now and it's a shame.

Take a breath

I'm old. This isn't the first trip to the oil price stratosphere. Third since I've been driving. Dad says others before my time. There is never a shortage of 'oil' and there is never a shortage of 'fear' driven supply interruptions or a shortage of "poly-tics" or a shortage of 'spot shortages' made to look like something more than it is. And kids there is never a shortage of:

G-R-E-E-D

F-E-A-R

Look at COSTCO prices. They reflect 15% above actual local market cost.

Compare that price to other local stations.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/gaspricemap?lat=38.822395&lng=-96.591588&z=4

Local news (Chicago) showed a BP station with gas over $6! California no doubt. Just over $3 here. A long way from the highest it's ever been and Illinois has one of the highest gas taxes in the USA.

That pipeline: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/12112021/line-5-biden-environmental-justice/

diyer2 · November 12, 2021

There is a lot of big money behind EV. Money talks and bullshit walks.

KARNUT · November 12, 2021

39 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

There is a lot of big money behind EV. Money talks and bullshit walks.

There once was billions behind solar panels here in the U.S. It was during the time of shovel ready jobs. Remember that? Sound familiar? Now it’s called build back better. People never learn. At least now retired. I don’t have to scramble to save a business from these socialist experiments.

Edited November 12, 2021 by KARNUT

diyer2 · November 12, 2021

I don't think I would call it socialists experiments. Enough money and people get involved and it rolls down hill just like sh$t does.

KARNUT · November 12, 2021

4 minutes ago, diyer2 said:

I don't think I would call it socialists experiments. Enough money and people get involved and it rolls down hill just like sh$t does.

Every time our government gets involved, both sides, most of the money goes to special interest. The electric vehicle advancement was going along pretty good on its own. They didn’t need to kill big oil to help it along. Now we have inflation. Some much for no middle class taxes rising. California killing owner operator truck drivers and wondering where did the truck drivers go? As the ports back up. Then they act surprised. I can’t wait to read the bill that just passed. I wouldn’t be surprised where that money goes.