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34 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

 

This does strike me as greed. And/or utter stupidity. Pay to use a fob you already paid for. Not like it’s a phone app or anything. 
 

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/12/toyota-owners-have-to-pay-8-mo-to-keep-using-their-key-fob-for-remote-start/

Well, there’s vehicles I wouldn’t buy because I don’t like their technology. So I would call that choice. There’s people that will pay for satellite radio. I did when I traveled and listened to nascar radio. Now with Pandora, iHeart I don’t anymore. I still can’t get over Starbucks. Probably if people didn’t pay for it eventually they wouldn’t charge  for it.

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I don’t mind paying for services that actually offer a service. If you’re using a company’s satellites, towers, servers, etc…you should have to pay for that. This ain’t that. Toyota is attempting to charge you to not lose a feature that was already built into the car. 

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Any business is always trying to get into our wallets. People pay for things that they deem are worth it or they want it. I try to avoid things that aren't up to my standards or are just plain stupid . My stupid list would include a lot of stuff people pay for. 

We can beat this to death like all things. Comes down to personal choice, as I have said many times.

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2 hours ago, diyer2 said:

Any business is always trying to get into our wallets. People pay for things that they deem are worth it or they want it. I try to avoid things that aren't up to my standards or are just plain stupid . My stupid list would include a lot of stuff people pay for. 

We can beat this to death like all things. Comes down to personal choice, as I have said many times.

Yup just like what Toyota is doing to its customers. If your Toyota comes with remote start on the key fob they are now taking it away and making you pay for it I know OnStar has it on the app and you have to pay but Toyota says the fob comminates with the server is why you have to pay, I call BS New Toyota cars don't include remote starting on key fobs (msn.com)

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1 hour ago, customboss said:

Had to go to Denver VA yesterday 3+ hours drive and pulled into a KUM and GO ( gotta love that brand name) to refuel since there was nothing better up there and saw this new station had EV recharging too!  

 

UK but its here too

 

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a38802959/shell-ev-charging-station-uk/

The Sheetz stations around here are installing Tesla Superchargers.  The one in Goldsboro has a slot of 7.  Smart for them to do this since one can pull in, charge and get something to eat as well.  For those not familiar with Sheetz you can click here to find out.

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GM fleet sales going EV. Did they get their design from Honda Ridgeline bred to a Avalanche? Does anyone have total weight?  I was told by my Chebby Service MGR that the EV weight is less than the current IC engine 4WD versions. Not sure I buy that. Batteries are heavy. 

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