Im sorry, but it is kind of funny GM 21-NA-199

steelerdude15 · January 18, 2022

Thanks @16LT4 and @mikeyk101 for this important info.

DaddyHasABigTruck · January 21, 2022

Has anyone had the dealer do this install ?

And if so how much.

14burrito · January 21, 2022

9 hours ago, DaddyHasABigTruck said:

Has anyone had the dealer do this install ?

And if so how much.

Honestly, it's very very easy to do. Not worth the headache.

mikeyk101 · January 21, 2022

10 hours ago, DaddyHasABigTruck said:

Has anyone had the dealer do this install ?

And if so how much.

I agree with @14burrito

It's at most a 10 min job and you don't even need to jack up the truck to do it. Just need a pan to catch the little amount of trans fluid that will leak out, and a socket set. IIRC, a 10mm socket for the plate that holds the 2 transmission cooling lines in and a 13mm socket to remove the thermostat body from the trans. It is even easier than doing the "pill flip" because you don't have to open up the transmission thermostat body.

Just slide under the truck just behind the front driver's side wheel towards the trans and you will find it. But like was mentioned... Make sure the 2 tiny o-rings stay on the ends of the transmission cooling lines when you remove and reinstall them or you will get a surprise later...

DaddyHasABigTruck · January 21, 2022

Appreciate the info gents !

Sounds like something even I could handle. I’ll just order the part.

thanks for the details @mikeyk101

dieselfan1 · February 4, 2022

On 1/21/2022 at 9:22 AM, mikeyk101 said:

I agree with @14burrito

It's at most a 10 min job and you don't even need to jack up the truck to do it. Just need a pan to catch the little amount of trans fluid that will leak out, and a socket set. IIRC, a 10mm socket for the plate that holds the 2 transmission cooling lines in and a 13mm socket to remove the thermostat body from the trans. It is even easier than doing the "pill flip" because you don't have to open up the transmission thermostat body.

Just slide under the truck just behind the front driver's side wheel towards the trans and you will find it. But like was mentioned... Make sure the 2 tiny o-rings stay on the ends of the transmission cooling lines when you remove and reinstall them or you will get a surprise later...

You guys will get a good laugh out of this...

So I was going to have my 18 dbl cab in the dealer to get a oil change and rotation. Id do it myself but its too cold for that nonsense. So I asked about getting the new thermostat for the trans. I gave them the tsb and the woman quoted me 3-4 hours labor to do this.

I told her it's at most an hour probably half hour.

Then I said " I get it you're not selling any cars so you gouge everyone on service, sad. "

She hung up on me

pokismoki · February 4, 2022

12 minutes ago, dieselfan1 said:

You guys will get a good laugh out of this...

So I was going to have my 18 dbl cab in the dealer to get a oil change and rotation. Id do it myself but its too cold for that nonsense. So I asked about getting the new thermostat for the trans. I gave them the tsb and the woman quoted me 3-4 hours labor to do this.

I told her it's at most an hour probably half hour.

Then I said " I get it you're not selling any cars so you gouge everyone on service, sad. "

She hung up on me

1hrs laybor on your job is about $80 and they are probably loosing money at that rate , the dealer can make 4-5x that on a customer just doing brakes and oil. , why would they even want to deal with a cheapo customer, they have real overhead to cover. they're operating cost per month is getting insane $$$$ post covid, cheap mofo's should do thier own work or go to a scammer mechanic

dieselfan1 · February 4, 2022

9 minutes ago, pokismoki said:

1hrs laybor on your job is about $80 and they are probably loosing money at that rate , the dealer can make 4-5x that on a customer just doing brakes and oil. , why would they even want to deal with a cheapo customer, they have real overhead to cover. they're operating cost per month is getting insane $$$$ post covid, cheap mofo's should do thier own work or go to a scammer mechanic

You must work at a dealer?

I do most work myself.

I'd gladly pay for an hour of labor to do a fifteen minute job.

They can kiss my ass for 3-4 hours labor for a fifteen minute job.

I'll wait until it warms up and do it myself in fifteen minutes.

Frankielozano214 · February 5, 2022

2 hours ago, dieselfan1 said:

You must work at a dealer?

I do most work myself.

I'd gladly pay for an hour of labor to do a fifteen minute job.

They can kiss my ass for 3-4 hours labor for a fifteen minute job.

I'll wait until it warms up and do it myself in fifteen minutes.

he must like getting pounded by them dealership prices lol

Grumpy Bear · February 5, 2022

20 hours ago, Frankielozano214 said:

he must like getting pounded by them dealership prices lol

One that can not be trusted with the little jobs can't be trusted with the larger.

Any service writer quoting 3 hours for that job needs a new job. Something non automotive. Maybe something like inmate.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Grumpy Bear

KARNUT · February 5, 2022

It depends on how the job is presented. Except for oil changes every job can’t be a lost leader. And it’s about competition. I needed a light bulb to pass inspection. I figured I’d get it done at the dealership along with the oil change. He told me 300$. Of course I did my research and asked him if he wanted to check again. I ended up down the road at another dealership. They did it for much less. I didn’t need the whole light just the bulb. Before I say that guys out of line I’d check the competition.

pokismoki · February 5, 2022

17 hours ago, dieselfan1 said:

You must work at a dealer?

I do most work myself.

I'd gladly pay for an hour of labor to do a fifteen minute job.

They can kiss my ass for 3-4 hours labor for a fifteen minute job.

I'll wait until it warms up and do it myself in fifteen minutes.

no i just own a business

dieselfan1 · February 5, 2022

5 hours ago, pokismoki said:

no i just own a business

Me too.

NE18 · February 12, 2022

Did the swap today. A lot less room in there than I thought but not too bad. Looking forward to the difference in temps while towing. FYI my dealer wanted $450 for the new thermostat.