GM Keyless Entry and Push-Button Start

[pm26]

Actual improvements are one thing, silly gimmicks like this are another. I just can't understand why people feel all cheated the SUVs have this and the trucks don't. It was clear from the beginning the SUVs were aiming toward a premium product and it's not like the fact the trucks don't have it was somehow hidden. And all one needs to do is see how shitty some of these keyless systems are to realize they aren't reliable or in any way secure.

I am with you on this. I would much rather have an old reliable key than a keyless transmitter that can fail and leave me stranded. My Kawasaki Concours C14 motorcycle even has a keyless start, and I would prefer the traditional key.

[Dnt]

 

Sounds like the time when I stopped by a Chevrolet dealership a couple of years ago on a Sunday and found this.....

Oh, hello there....

 

Man that is a BAIT CAR you are on camera run away fast..

[cmpcpro]

They wouldn't put a brand new Vette out there as a bait car only cars that have been taken from drug dealers and drunk drivers .. that right there is how you get an entire sales team replaced in one shot.. I hope you helped themout and took the keys home and brought back the next day..

[Inacanyon]

silverados $20,000 cheaper than the SUVs, if that means i have to take the key out of my pocket, seems worth it.

[diannabill]

I just see more things to go wrong.. I miss when trucks were easy... I don't need a ton of sensors and gadgets to tell me what to do... and I see these cars parallel parking themselves that just looks dumb as hell.. we're making everyone spoiled and unable to do anything the right way on their own. sent from my truck in a field

I'm almost 60 and I can't remember a time in my car-owning history where things (including trucks) were easy. My first new car was an early 1970 model and I remember my father saying he couldn't work on it because it was too complicated. Maybe back in the 40s or 50s?

[MikeNH]

People who claim new vehicles are too hard to work on just can't be bothered to learn. I'd need to educate myself on direct injection before tearing into one of these but I'd take a modern fuel injected vehicle over a old carb all day long. My truck will run fine in any weather, temperature or elevation and make more power and get better fuel economy at the same time than trucks from the past.

[redwngr]

How so? If you're even somewhat close to some of these cars someone can easily walk up, make it unlock and at best be able to go through your belongings and at worst they can drive off.

Just tested the Impala passive system.

 

With the fob in house, car in garage, will not unlock.

With fob 8 ft from rear bumper (at a 45 angle) will not unlock.

With fob 3 ft left of the left rear wheel, will not unlock.

With for 3 ft left of drivers door -- finally unlocks.

 

Don't think anyone is sneaking up and taking you car.

 

FWIW, the fob will remote start the car from along way away (just like the older style fob).

 

It just forces you to be 'right there' before it will unlock.

[MikeNH]

Maybe GM has done it better than Chrysler then. Still a pointless system. If a vehicle came with it, whatever but people who are upset and feel cheated are just being weird.

[fondupot]

Maybe GM has done it better than Chrysler then. Still a pointless system. If a vehicle came with it, whatever but people who are upset and feel cheated are just being weird.

 

Seriously. Like what did people do before key-less entry? They used the key to open the door! Imagine that.

[MikeNH]

I have no problem with the basic remote to lock/unlock doors. I admit that is a nice feature I just can't see the benefit to the keyless ignition. Every manual I've read for vehicles has some sort of backup trick in case the battery fails- touching the fob to the button a special way usually. I'd rather just have a key that is generally foolproof. Especially since I don't like keeping things in my pockets when sitting. It's one thing in winter when I could stash them in a coat pocket but once the warmer weather hits I'd have to find a spot for them every time I drove instead of simply inserting the key into the ignition.

[cmpcpro]

Funny I used to use the key to unlock the doors now I didn't even notice on of my cars had no keyhole and I've had it for a while

[diannabill]

People who claim new vehicles are too hard to work on just can't be bothered to learn. I'd need to educate myself on direct injection before tearing into one of these but I'd take a modern fuel injected vehicle over a old carb all day long. My truck will run fine in any weather, temperature or elevation and make more power and get better fuel economy at the same time than trucks from the past.

Dad was old and didn't need to work on my car. He learned and took care of his generation of vehicles, and I learned and took care of mine. It was my problem not his. The point I was trying to make was that it's been a long time since vehicles were "easy." We won't see easy again. Trying to squeeze every mile out of a gallon of fuel results in technology that was unheard of just 5 - 10 years ago. Add to that the features that are purely luxury--power door locks, windows, keyless ignition, and the complexity skyrockets. And the list of technology-based features grows with each model year. And so does the complexity.

 

I do sort of miss pulling out the radio button to set the station. I never once had to consult a manual to do that--and it never failed to work! But nostalgic as that thought makes me, I wouldn't trade the entertainment system in my 2014 Silverado for anything I've previously had.

 

In Dad's day, he could just pull out a radio, put a new one in and it worked. Can't say that now. So goodbye "easy."

[redwngr]

 

I agree it's a gimmick. That said, having used it on the Impala since last summer, I've become hooked on it. It's still an unnecessary gimmick, but so are many of the options on todays vehicles.

 

On the Impala there is a flip out key in the fob that can be used to open the door after moving a piece of trim on the door handle. Similar to using a key if a battery dies with the non-passive fob.

[mike94silverado]

I like push button start just not enough to get another truck over it

 

 

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[MBear]

Ha...I just traded a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit for a 2014 Sierra SLT 4x4. The JGC had keyless entry and pushbutton start. Didn't realize how addicted I'd become. I've had the Sierra for 3 days. Today is the first day I have tried to get in the vehicle by just grabbing the door handle...LOL! Loved the Jeep...but love the Sierra more