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jjvito Enthusiast

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I wouldnt. Chevy has more bang for your buck. I looked at the F150 this last go around before I purchased my 16 a month ago. I looked at a F150 that was $44,000 and it had no backup camera, no touchscreen, no integrated trailer braking system and it was a V6. For 44K!! I went with the LT and all said and done out the door paid 35K. The argument about the aluminum body is a moot point IMO, most trucks within the next 5-7 years will be that way..its the only way these companies are going to be able to meet fuel MPG standards without shaving off power. The only thing I worry about now with HSA is the availability of it if you were to get into an accident, and the amount of body guys that really know how to work with aluminum right now

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I'm not sure if the OP got his answers, but based on the current dimensions of the Big-3 trucks, they are within less than an inch of difference in size, so I don't think the ford will offer anything better other than offering the panoramic sunroof, to which even with the sunroof on the GM, you should be able to have the same forward view. Not trying to be an ass, but the concerns of the OP could of been easily discovered with a test drive. I think this has more to do with looking for the pimple to justify your buyer remorse than anything tangibly wrong with the truck. Everyone at some time or another has got the new car bug bite...there's only one cure when that happens. I guess I don't understand the point of asking for opinions on trading for another car brand on a competitor Forum. Hopefully you ventured over to the F150 forums and see there is a lot of buyer remorse over there as well. Good luck with whatever decision you go with.

 

http://www.edmunds.com/car-comparisons/?veh1=401582177|crew-cab&veh2=401582480|supercrew&veh3=200743921|crew-cab&show=0&comparatorId=6341466

LaserBlueZ71 Enthusiast

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Not trying to justify buyer remorse? Not sure where you pulled that out of.

 

Maybe a lot of people are not sitting up straight in there trucks. I have a long torso, when I sit up straight in this truck, my head is only about 2 inches from touching the headliner. My seat is also all the way back with a fair bit of lean on the back portion. This is why lights can actually become hidden. I am always stopped behind the white line, but in some intersections where the gap between the white line and the opposing light is shorter, the top lights are totally obstructed from my view. Since I have to sit so far back, the roof now acts like a sunvisor.

 

Why would I go over to a Ford forum and ask if GM buyers would consider a Ford? Some of you keep wondering why I asked that question here, it makes perfect sense why. I am asking fellow GM owners if they would consider switching to a different brand of truck, because maybe some others have complaints about their trucks design as well? It makes no sense to go and ask Ford owners if they would switch to a Ford......

 

As far as noticing it on a test drive, that one is my fault. When you test drive a new vehicle you never think of all the different things you will notice once you own it for a while. Sure I drove it around for 45 minutes before I purchased it, but I didn't notice any issues, likely because of excitement of getting a new truck.

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:chevrolet: NO!! To each his own but Henry only made one good one and kept it for himself. Just sayin!

SouthernSilveradoGuy85 Senior Enthusiast

SouthernSilveradoGuy85

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Not trying to justify buyer remorse? Not sure where you pulled that out of.

 

Maybe a lot of people are not sitting up straight in there trucks. I have a long torso, when I sit up straight in this truck, my head is only about 2 inches from touching the headliner. My seat is also all the way back with a fair bit of lean on the back portion. This is why lights can actually become hidden. I am always stopped behind the white line, but in some intersections where the gap between the white line and the opposing light is shorter, the top lights are totally obstructed from my view. Since I have to sit so far back, the roof now acts like a sunvisor.

 

Why would I go over to a Ford forum and ask if GM buyers would consider a Ford? Some of you keep wondering why I asked that question here, it makes perfect sense why. I am asking fellow GM owners if they would consider switching to a different brand of truck, because maybe some others have complaints about their trucks design as well? It makes no sense to go and ask Ford owners if they would switch to a Ford......

 

As far as noticing it on a test drive, that one is my fault. When you test drive a new vehicle you never think of all the different things you will notice once you own it for a while. Sure I drove it around for 45 minutes before I purchased it, but I didn't notice any issues, likely because of excitement of getting a new truck.

 

Read my previous post (#40), you can lower the entire seat as a unit. The lever that you slide forward or back to move the seat forward or back, just push down on the back end of it and the whole seat will move down. It will also move backwards at the same time. Again, this lowers the entire seat as a unit.

Silverado Steve Senior Enthusiast

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A couple of things, first you said you like the panoramic sunroof on the Ford which the GM doesn't have and just admittedly said the excitement of a new car caused you to overlook the visibility aspect on your 45 minute test drive....voila....buyers remorse is setting in. Anyways, can you really complain about the lack of leg room in a double cab truck? The crew cab has plenty of room and I'm 6'2, but then again I have the adjustable pedals and with the telescoping steering wheel I have no issue, but I have a bigger cab. Second, if you looked over that link I posted before, you would see the GM has 2 inches more of headroom in the front, so if you're complaining about the lack thereof in your truck, what do you think the Ford will offer? I guess I could understand your concern if you had vibrations or rusting issues, but because you claim the windshield is smaller or the windshield rake to angled and lack of a panaromatic sunroof? Yes, it sounds like the hapless bitching of someone who bought the wrong truck and regrets it...again not to be an ass, but that's how it comes across.

 

In regards to asking people here if they would trade to a Ford? Perhaps the better question is to go to the ford forum and ask if anyone traded a 2014+ GM on a new Ford and why? Or maybe who would trade their ford in on a GM? End of the day, what kind of response did you expect to get? From the looks of it, not a positive one supporting your issue.

 

Not trying to justify buyer remorse? Not sure where you pulled that out of.

 

Maybe a lot of people are not sitting up straight in there trucks. I have a long torso, when I sit up straight in this truck, my head is only about 2 inches from touching the headliner. My seat is also all the way back with a fair bit of lean on the back portion. This is why lights can actually become hidden. I am always stopped behind the white line, but in some intersections where the gap between the white line and the opposing light is shorter, the top lights are totally obstructed from my view. Since I have to sit so far back, the roof now acts like a sunvisor.

 

Why would I go over to a Ford forum and ask if GM buyers would consider a Ford? Some of you keep wondering why I asked that question here, it makes perfect sense why. I am asking fellow GM owners if they would consider switching to a different brand of truck, because maybe some others have complaints about their trucks design as well? It makes no sense to go and ask Ford owners if they would switch to a Ford......

 

As far as noticing it on a test drive, that one is my fault. When you test drive a new vehicle you never think of all the different things you will notice once you own it for a while. Sure I drove it around for 45 minutes before I purchased it, but I didn't notice any issues, likely because of excitement of getting a new truck.

LaserBlueZ71 Enthusiast

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Read my previous post (#40), you can lower the entire seat as a unit. The lever that you slide forward or back to move the seat forward or back, just push down on the back end of it and the whole seat will move down. It will also move backwards at the same time. Again, this lowers the entire seat as a unit.

I am aware of that function, and as I said, that is one of the problems in itself.

 

If you take note, with the seat lowered all the way down, the front of the seat is much higher than the rear, the entire bottom seat portion itself is nowhere near level. This just causes more discomfort since your legs have pressure against them behind your knees from the front of the seat sticking up so much.

 

I drive trucks for a living and haul heavy equipment, so I am used to seats in big rigs, where the bottom cushion is totally flat, your legs bend at a 90 at your knees, and you can sit up tall with a full length back portion. These car seats are just not built for big people.

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I am aware of that function, and as I said, that is one of the problems in itself.

 

If you take note, with the seat lowered all the way down, the front of the seat is much higher than the rear, the entire bottom seat portion itself is nowhere near level. This just causes more discomfort since your legs have pressure against them behind your knees from the front of the seat sticking up so much.

 

I drive trucks for a living and haul heavy equipment, so I am used to seats in big rigs, where the bottom cushion is totally flat, your legs bend at a 90 at your knees, and you can sit up tall with a full length back portion. These car seats are just not built for big people.

I wonder if your seat is functioning properly? I'm 6'4 and I sit very comfortably.

 

I do some times have to hunch over to see lights but I had to that in all my cars. It might be more of a traffic light position and stop bar position thing.

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I am aware of that function, and as I said, that is one of the problems in itself.

 

If you take note, with the seat lowered all the way down, the front of the seat is much higher than the rear, the entire bottom seat portion itself is nowhere near level. This just causes more discomfort since your legs have pressure against them behind your knees from the front of the seat sticking up so much.

 

I drive trucks for a living and haul heavy equipment, so I am used to seats in big rigs, where the bottom cushion is totally flat, your legs bend at a 90 at your knees, and you can sit up tall with a full length back portion. These car seats are just not built for big people.

After looking at my truck and fooling with the seat I can see why you are having issues if you want the seat bottom horizontal. As low as possible with the seat bottom horizontal my head almost touches the roof so I have to lean the seat back quite a bit and yes I wouldnt enjoy that.

 

But I actually like a lot of tilt on the seat bottom to support my thighs.

 

Since you dont you are kind of stuck, I agree. I know my Rams you could flatten the bottom to the point it felt like you would slide off when you hit the brakes and still have a ton of headroom. Dont recall on the Ford.

 

Interesting thing here on the seat bottom angle (page 4), I have read this in other places and maybe thats why GM is forcing the seat bottom angle on you.

 

http://www.allocca.com/papers/Headrest.pdf

 

So I will go back to my original post here on page 1, just get the Ford if it suits you better. Short of modifying the seat mechanism - you will not have room in these trucks if you want a flat seat bottom and upright seat back. I would not use the blanket statement 'these seats are not built for big people' because I am big people and I'm fine with them. Matter of fact one of our fleet trucks is a newer Ram express and the seat bottom is flat with no adjustment, tilt, height or otherwise. Just seat back angle. And I refuse to drive that thing, I feel like I'm falling forward out of the seat...

 

These SLT seats are certainly not made for someone who wants the seats in the position you want them, just trade it in for the Ford if the seats do what you want..

SouthernSilveradoGuy85 Senior Enthusiast

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I am aware of that function, and as I said, that is one of the problems in itself.

 

If you take note, with the seat lowered all the way down, the front of the seat is much higher than the rear, the entire bottom seat portion itself is nowhere near level. This just causes more discomfort since your legs have pressure against them behind your knees from the front of the seat sticking up so much.

 

I drive trucks for a living and haul heavy equipment, so I am used to seats in big rigs, where the bottom cushion is totally flat, your legs bend at a 90 at your knees, and you can sit up tall with a full length back portion. These car seats are just not built for big people.

 

Oh ok, I had the assumption that you didn't know about that feature. As stated above me, I myself like the front of the seat a tad higher than the back of the seat so it helps hold me in the seat if I have to brake a little hard. I tried out trucking a few years back and have done local delivery and I didn't seem to have trouble not having a flat bottom seat going between my truck and a commercial truck. Maybe it's something that you could get used to maybe. But I understand if you can't because if I have the bottom of the seat tilted too much the back of my legs start to hurt a little like you describe.

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my neighbor got a 2015 F150 Platinum 5.0 around the same time I got my truck. Almost the same color too. It is nice and I am jealous of his HID's and power side steps, but it stops there. other than that I just really prefer my Chevy. Last Saturday I was outside and he came down the street, right behind him was my wife in the Z71 and man oh man did the Chevy look 10x better coming at you, so much more aggressive, so much more "Truck".

 

that Platinum is one hell of a nice vehicle and it compares better to a High Country or a Denali compared to my LTZ but I still wouldn't trade, ever

redwngr Senior Enthusiast

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I am aware of that function, and as I said, that is one of the problems in itself.

 

If you take note, with the seat lowered all the way down, the front of the seat is much higher than the rear, the entire bottom seat portion itself is nowhere near level. This just causes more discomfort since your legs have pressure against them behind your knees from the front of the seat sticking up so much.

 

I drive trucks for a living and haul heavy equipment, so I am used to seats in big rigs, where the bottom cushion is totally flat, your legs bend at a 90 at your knees, and you can sit up tall with a full length back portion. These car seats are just not built for big people.

Once you have used the back of the switch to lower the rear, use the front of the switch to lower the front.

Took me a while to sort it out -- but now I'm a happy camper. (I also detest a seat that is to high at the front)

tallspawn Enthusiast

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Agree with the above post about blanket statement of not fitting big people, again 6'9" here and no problem. I will say not too much in this world is made for taller people, tired of getting on my knees to use a public bathroom sink lol.

 

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