Coronavirus

[RyanbabZ71]

Ryan B.

[graystonelbz]

Did you know that The America is a free democracy.

Did you know that many of your constitutional rights have been taken without your consent, including the ability to provide for yourself and family.

Did you know that you can stay in your house forever if you so choose.

 

Now Imagine that American citizens are blindly making arguments that make them appear to be anti- American.

Freedom works and it isn't to be taken lightly.

 

[Grumpy Bear]

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

New York is an outlier. Population density and no chance at early warning. If anything they should have been hit harder. Some of their local leaders encourage crowds early on. Their entire local government was claiming 30-40 thousand deaths. New Orleans should have been just as bad. Houston had the live stock show. It went for a few days before the shut down. I know we’re going back and forth on this. I believe semi isolation, you believe total. There’s something going on here. There’s places that should have been hit hard that didn’t mitigate. I think the answer may be this bug has been around longer than the experts know. Some people may not be affected. Or mutation like the cold and flu. They original goal was to keep hospitalization at a minimum. Now some people want a no infection promise. Some doctors are reminding us just who is at risk. People with underlying issues. I believe Tucker Carlson last night said out of all the deaths in New York. 100 people had no underlying issues they could find. That’s the type of numbers that should be front and center. The fear mongering headlines will only encourage fear. It’ll wreck our world as we know it. Time to be more positive. Me I’m at high risk I’ll stay home. I’m mature enough to understand that.


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No sir  I don't believe that at all. How would we get medical care, food, energy, law enforcement. You're reading social distancing as isolation when you read my post and they are not the same thing. No one I don't know needs to be in my hip pocket but they don't need to be confined either. 

 

 

[KARNUT]

Remember the movie 1984? We’re living it in some areas. Some governors are telling the residents what they can buy in stores. A father in an empty park got put in hand cuffs in front of his 6 year old daughter. He was having a catch with her. Drive through liquor good, drive through church, bad. I could go on. Better open soon, the sheep’s are getting restless.


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[KARNUT]

No sir  I don't believe that at all. How would we get medical care, food, energy, law enforcement. You're reading social distancing as isolation when you read my post and they are not the same thing. No one I don't know needs to be in my hip pocket but they don't need to be confined either. 
 
 

I was only semi answering you. I get rambling, I need to do better about separating my thoughts. A little dyslexia going on here.


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[Grumpy Bear]

17 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I was only semi answering you. I get rambling, I need to do better about separating my thoughts. A little dyslexia going on here.


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No worries. I have the wife proof read anything important. She likes to catch me in mistakes.  She's good at it too. 

 

Tell ya what I see in the last few days data. IMPROVEMENT! At least here in the states. There are some countries getting lit up like Christmas trees. Mostly Southern Hemisphere. Last few days Peru looked ugly. Then again their violent crime rate is at an all time low. Russia, although Northern ,has been on a rip. Belgium setting some Euro zone records. Not good ones either. Hope my chocolate supply remains in tact. Pairs well with whiskey. 

 

Even New York County is moderating in new cases and deaths. That's good. For some days the death rate was higher than their ICU bed count. They did get to use those field units. 

 

Can't speak to anything that happened after NYC but since, looks like big cities learned allot from that experience. I know Chicago did. 

 

Big Blue's link to Mississippi shows it cooling down too. Nice to see individual states releasing these figures. 

 

 

[KARNUT]

No worries. I have the wife proof read anything important. [emoji4] She likes to catch me in mistakes.  She's good at it too. 
 
Tell ya what I see in the last few days data. IMPROVEMENT! At least here in the states. There are some countries getting lit up like Christmas trees. Mostly Southern Hemisphere. Last few days Peru looked ugly. Then again their violent crime rate is at an all time low. Russia, although Northern ,has been on a rip. Belgium setting some Euro zone records. Not good ones either. Hope my chocolate supply remains in tact. Pairs well with whiskey. 
 
Even New York County is moderating in new cases and deaths. That's good. For some days the death rate was higher than their ICU bed count. They did get to use those field units. 
 
Can't speak to anything that happened after NYC but since, looks like big cities learned allot from that experience. I know Chicago did. 
 
Big Blue's link to Mississippi shows it cooling down too. Nice to see individual states releasing these figures. 
 
 

You should see my handwriting.


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[Cpl_Punishment]

16 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

No worries. I have the wife proof read anything important. She likes to catch me in mistakes.  She's good at it too. 

 

Tell ya what I see in the last few days data. IMPROVEMENT! At least here in the states. There are some countries getting lit up like Christmas trees. Mostly Southern Hemisphere. Last few days Peru looked ugly. Then again their violent crime rate is at an all time low. Russia, although Northern ,has been on a rip. Belgium setting some Euro zone records. Not good ones either. Hope my chocolate supply remains in tact. Pairs well with whiskey. 

 

Even New York County is moderating in new cases and deaths. That's good. For some days the death rate was higher than their ICU bed count. They did get to use those field units. 

 

Can't speak to anything that happened after NYC but since, looks like big cities learned allot from that experience. I know Chicago did. 

 

Big Blue's link to Mississippi shows it cooling down too. Nice to see individual states releasing these figures. 

 

 

I read an interesting statement from someone who (claims to) live in South Africa (that I haven't tried to verify). At the time that I read it, they had been shut down for a couple weeks. In that time, about 20 people had died (not sure if that was only from COVID-19 complications or all causes). However, given the typical murder rate, they would normally see ~245 people die in a similar time period. Therefore, this person figured the death rate due to COVID-19 in South Africa at that time was about negative 225.

12 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

You should see my handwriting.


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Ditto.

[KARNUT]

Ditto.

I think what’s being lost in all this is who’s the most vulnerable. People with pre existing conditions. People who should be cautious with any flu. I know I’m more careful this time of the year, more so now.


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[The Zip]

9 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I think what’s being lost in all this is who’s the most vulnerable. People with pre existing conditions.

Because the country doesn't have the capacity to test everyone, let's get the economy restarted with the least vulnerable, those without pre-existing conditions.  Let's test those folks and put them back to work and see how that goes.  It may buy some time to get the most vulnerable tested.

[KARNUT]

Because the country doesn't have the capacity to test everyone, let's get the economy restarted with the least vulnerable, those without pre-existing conditions.  Let's test those folks and put them back to work and see how that goes.  It may buy some time to get the most vulnerable tested.

They’re there now. The 5-15 minute test does that. Getting people to do it is a little slow. Nursing homes, retirement communities, people who depend on others should already have that test. For those of us seniors that are independent. There’s senior shopping hrs. in place already. Young people who are at risk and work should have paid leave until their work area can test. Public gatherings, restaurants, cruises, etc may have to wait for more available testing or mitigated medication. I don’t think they’ll be a cure.


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[The Zip]

How do you test healthy people like what's on this thread, and put them back to work?  I don't think it's just a matter of "getting those people to do it is a little slow".  How do you get the test to those folks, don't think they would object.

[KARNUT]

How do you test healthy people like what's on this thread, and put them back to work?  I don't think it's just a matter of "getting those people to do it is a little slow".  How do you get the test to those folks, don't think they would object.

Houston started testing everyone that wanted one today. Don’t know which test. If it’s the one that takes awhile you could get infected in between.


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[Booger T]

1 hour ago, The Zip said:

How do you test healthy people like what's on this thread, and put them back to work?  I don't think it's just a matter of "getting those people to do it is a little slow".  How do you get the test to those folks, don't think they would object.

Totally agree with what you have said. If you live in a rural area you are not going to get tested just because you want to be. Have to meet certain criteria or they won't do it. In the state of Kansas the KDHE even states that. The county in which I live will even tell you that you can't get tested.

 

[The Zip]

20 minutes ago, Booger T said:

Totally agree with what you have said. If you live in a rural area you are not going to get tested just because you want to be. Have to meet certain criteria or they won't do it. In the state of Kansas the KDHE even states that. The county in which I live will even tell you that you can't get tested.

 

That doesn't make sense to me.  With the small number of folks in rural areas, testing a community would be quicker.  If a state could centrally locate a piece of testing equipment for the least vulnerable in those communities, that would ease the load on folks with access to less.