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I saw an interesting story last night that CNN misrepresented some of the facts of the effectiveness of the malaria drug. Even accusing Fox News of doing the same thing. They were ask to change the story for clarity. They refused. They’re not looking out for you people. They only have one goal. Most reports I’ve seen on the drug hyroxychloroquine are when taking early it seems to lessen the effects of the bug. A drug that’s been around awhile with little side effects. Now in reality people respond different to different drugs. I’m on blood pressure medication, my wife is too. We take different kinds. So yes there’s a possibility that hydroxychloroquine will not work the same for everyone. DUH. Especially near death on a ventilator, the report CNN sighted. It’s amazing the depths they’ll stoop to trying to discredit people they disagree with. Disgusting.

 

 

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I’m wondering. Remember H1-N1? Mass hysteria? Stock Market going crazy? Who’s going to make money? Who’s pushing the most hysteria?

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I work in a gov't office in a secret underground undisclosed location, as they say.  No, really.  We received a briefing from an epidemiologist in Washington State.  He said that if you put someone in

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While typing the last thread the unemployment numbers came out. 4.4 million more people filed. That’s over 26 million people that lost their jobs in just a few weeks.


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https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearly-all-ny-coronavirus-patients-suffered-underlying-health-issue-study-finds

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184

 

I haven't read the actual study yet for limitations or to see if the author of this article understands stats, but it states 94% of patients in New York with COVID-19 had underlying medical issues.....just like we've been told.

 

STATS guys, let's hear from you as you definitely understand the numbers more than most.

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https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearly-all-ny-coronavirus-patients-suffered-underlying-health-issue-study-finds
 
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184
 
I haven't read the actual study yet for limitations or to see if the author of this article understands stats, but it states 94% of patients in New York with COVID-19 had underlying medical issues.....just like we've been told.
 
STATS guys, let's hear from you as you definitely understand the numbers more than most.

Overweight, diabetes, high blood pressure, over 65. Usually you get rid of the first one you take care of the next two. If you’re over 65 retire. So basically people are being asked to kiss their jobs good buy because of behavior problems of others. I’m guilty of some of that. I can stay home. One of the by products of this is the labor market will get younger and cheaper. So much for protecting older people.


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The Houston Texas city liberals are demanding people to wear mask or get fines. The backlash is deafening. I carry a mask. Presently I’m only driving to my walking track every morning my normal routine. It’s busier than normal. People are spacing, I’m seeing no mask. My wife has to go to the post office and goes to the store when needed. She’s seeing mask where spacing is a challenge. Texans are pretty good at public safety. Look at our numbers. Requiring wearing a mask as a matter of law would be insulting to people who have been doing everything possible to date. I’m confused at the push back as far as barber shops, and like business. Mask wearing, gloves and hygiene would seem to make those business pretty safe. People are getting restless at over reach.


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Yeah, so far; so good.  But what happens when the curtain is pulled on this mortal place?  Is this truly all there is?

Doesn't matter what you believe when faced with the actual truth of the matter.  Were you right or wrong?  Doesn't matter.  It will be what it is.

 

Who's to blame in this mess?  Look at the totals and where it is alleged to have began.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

 

The times, they are a-changing.

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3 hours ago, KARNUT said:

I saw an interesting story last night that CNN misrepresented some of the facts of the effectiveness of the malaria drug. Even accusing Fox News of doing the same thing. They were ask to change the story for clarity. They refused. They’re not looking out for you people. They only have one goal. Most reports I’ve seen on the drug hyroxychloroquine are when taking early it seems to lessen the effects of the bug. A drug that’s been around awhile with little side effects. Now in reality people respond different to different drugs. I’m on blood pressure medication, my wife is too. We take different kinds. So yes there’s a possibility that hydroxychloroquine will not work the same for everyone. DUH. Especially near death on a ventilator, the report CNN sighted. It’s amazing the depths they’ll stoop to trying to discredit people they disagree with. Disgusting.

 

 

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Weeks ago, the first doctors to use this cocktail of drugs were showing 100% success rate.  These were doctors in NYC, treating hundreds of patients each, many hundreds.  Then those who recovered came on the air and praised the use of those meds and some said their side effects were a headache.  Big whup.  

 

The left has politicized this entire event and done so to destroy the presidency of DJT.  They do it all the time, going back a hundred years or more.

 

When this is over we ought to crush communism in America.  Force it back into the underground where it belongs.  It's murderous and subversive, Un-American.

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I think companies who will introduce vaccine in the market will get great profits. As compared to vaccine, I praying for herd immunity. Lets see where its end. 

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As I have posted since probably 1month ago I am fairly confident in my .5-.9% MR/FR  The Who has already gone from 3-4% now at 2% and even that is absolute nonsense!  They "WHO" should be fired!

 

Study Finds 14% of New Yorkers Had Signs (12:35 p.m. NY)

A New York state-led study seeking to learn how many people have been infected found that 13.9% of those tested had signs of the virus, in one of the biggest U.S. reviews to date.

In New York City, the hardest-hit area in the U.S., 21.2% tested positive for a blood marker showing that they had been infected at some point. Statewide, 2.7 million people may have has Covid-19, Governor Andrew Cuomo said.

New York has reported 15,500 deaths. If 2.7 million people have been infected, that would put the fatality rate at around 0.6%.

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On 4/20/2020 at 9:24 PM, j-ten-ner said:

I hope that you guys realize that there are things you can't fight with a 9mm...

That's why I also have a 30-30. 

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Interesting presser yesterday. The president brings out an expert. The summery. The bug hates heat,humidity and certain lights. There was talk about certain disinfectants. Interesting information and helpful. The president responded to the expert. Maybe you and the doctors can get together see how some of that information can work on the sick. Of course the ever honest CNN headline. The president peddles dangerous cures. Don’t drink Lysol. One reporter asked. So you’re saying don’t social distances out side? As he was looking at her like the idiot she is. He answer was I’m here bringing out the experts to give information. That’s not what I said. The got you game has gotten way out of hand. Also it appears as different types of testing ramps up. More people have been exposed with no symptoms than anyone imagined.

 

 

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Interesting presser yesterday. The president brings out an expert. The summery. The bug hates heat,humidity and certain lights. There was talk about certain disinfectants. Interesting information and helpful. The president responded to the expert. Maybe you and the doctors can get together see how some of that information can work on the sick. Of course the ever honest CNN headline. The president peddles dangerous cures. Don’t drink Lysol. One reporter asked. So you’re saying don’t social distances out side? As he was looking at her like the idiot she is. He answer was I’m here bringing out the experts to give information. That’s not what I said. The got you game has gotten way out of hand. Also it appears as different types of testing ramps up. More people have been exposed with no symptoms than anyone imagined.

 

 

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Lysol and Tide both issued statements immediately after the presser clarifying that under no circumstances should their products be ingested.  They did it as a response to the President clearly stating that maybe light or disinfectants could be used to help patients.  Here's the Fox News article.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/media-erupt-over-trump-comments-on-disinfectant-heres-what-he-said 

 

It's being claimed that he said it jokingly.  Joking or not, these pressers are to get crucial information to the public.  He can't just spout out ridiculous ideas and then end it with "but check with a doctor first".  He knows full well that some people will do whatever he says without consulting a doctor, so he probably shouldn't say things like he did yesterday.  As the President, HE must realize that his words hold great weight with some people, and that they must be chosen carefully.  Again, his biggest problem is when he starts speaking off the cuff.  He's not a great public speaker, his thoughts are often incoherent when he strays off script, and that gets him into trouble.

 

How do you think the experts up on that stage feel when he starts going off on a tangent about them looking into whether or not they could find a way to inject disinfectants into people?  That's not a question you pose in front of the nation, you ask that behind the scenes so stuff like this doesn't happen.  Those experts must be thinking that he can't possibly be serious, because no reasonable person would think that.  It's why there are warning labels on products like that.

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