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1 hour ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

I'm not clear on how having more covid deaths makes money. Could you please elaborate? 

 

FEMA, federal govt pays the hospitals   X amount for ppl on ventilators.  There was a break down on this and the amounts.  If i can Find the article, i will Most certainly share with u 

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43 minutes ago, Kristy Tim said:

FEMA, federal govt pays the hospitals   X amount for ppl on ventilators.  There was a break down on this and the amounts.  If i can Find the article, i will Most certainly share with u 

But not if the people on ventilators don't have covid? 

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NJ has opened up it's parks and golf courses.  Gov. Murphy is supposed to make an announcement on schools sometime soon.  Seems like we're gonna start opening up more over the next few weeks.  I know there are a bunch of angry and anxious people out there, but with our situation NJ's elected officials have done an excellent job.  

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22 hours ago, KARNUT said:


I was getting really to compliment you on our sometimes frustrating sometimes opposite side of these arguments. Then you hit me with the exact sentence I can easily hit you with. You have the benefit of results that happen quickly. Coming from a lifetime of struggling at times with family business. Starting with my grandparents. I have first hand experience of what can happen when outside forces get involved with business. The ripple effects of those events. My earliest the 70s oil blockade. The 08 housing crisis. This virus. The pain and suffering as the result. It takes longer and is just as deadly. Instead of being on a small scale. It’s much bigger. I’ve seen it, live it. I know what’s coming. This will take longer and will be more painful. We’ve been forced into with no choice. It’s un American. In the late 70s we moved and started over. What’s the more than 30 million supposed to do. Your just too damn stubborn as the result are changing. New realizations come forward. You’re stuck on the same narrative. As others are changing. I’m going to agree to disagree. And not answer you on this topic going forward.


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On a lighter side.

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Today, COVID-19 moves into second place in USA history. 

 

H1N1 1918 675,000 dead USA 

H2H2 1957 116,000 dead USA

2SARS 2020 68,276 dead USA and counting.

H3N2 1968  68,000 dead USA

H1N1 2009  12,469 dead USA mutation of 1918 strain.

 

Heard the Surgeon General say not to expect this to die off in warm weather. Southern Hemisphere didn't escape it in the middle of their summer. D'oh!

 

Just to be clear. I'm actually for opening up. Just not in places where it is still growing exponentially. 

 

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Today, COVID-19 moves into second place in USA history. 

 

H1N1 1918 675,000 dead USA 

H2H2 1957 116,000 dead USA

2SARS 2020 68,276 dead USA and counting.

H3N2 1968  68,000 dead USA

H1N1 2009  12,469 dead USA mutation of 1918 strain.

 

Heard the Surgeon General say not to expect this to die off in warm weather. Southern Hemisphere didn't escape it in the middle of their summer. D'oh!

 

Just to be clear. I'm actually for opening up. Just not in places where it is still growing exponentially. 

 

Considering that states are reporting more deaths as due to COVID-19 than reality to get federal money, I highly doubt these figures.

It IS happening, and has been reported on.

It's another flu.

You can't refute my claim because the numbers are known to be inflated.

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This is an easy topic to argue about, unless you have had someone effected by it. Luckily I have not.

 

Same thing goes for us fortunate to have kept our jobs and income while millions have not, numbers are just that, a number, unless it was a loved one, and then it really means something to you, whether it was death or losing their job.

 

Science will find a band aid cure, till the next round, hopefully some of the money being funneled into helping the homeless, addicted to the flavor of the month drug, and the other BS that billions go to, will be directed to having a better plan in place for the next Panademic

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Just now, JimCost2014 said:

This is an easy topic to argue about, unless you have had someone effected by it. Luckily I have not.

 

Same thing goes for us fortunate to have kept our jobs and income while millions have not, numbers are just that, a number, unless it was a loved one, and then it really means something to you, whether it was death or losing their job.

 

Science will find a band aid cure, till the next round, hopefully some of the money being funneled into helping the homeless, addicted to the flavor of the month drug, and the other BS that billions go to, will be directed to having a better plan in place for the next Panademic

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I'm surprised at how civil the discussion has been, good on you guys. Perhaps our politicians could learn a thing or two. 

 

JimCost2014 makes an excellent point, good things to keep in mind.

 

I am curious to see if the general public, as well as those in charge of disaster preparation, will learn a valuable lesson from this. I have a sinking feeling the answer will be absolutely not, but you never know, there may be hope. 

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14 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Heard the Surgeon General say not to expect this to die off in warm weather. Southern Hemisphere didn't escape it in the middle of their summer. D'oh!

Didn't know there was enough summer data from the Southern Hemisphere for them to adequately know the impact of outside heat on C-19.  It would make sense to me heat will have an impact, I lose a gasket over 70.  Hope the fella is wrong, ...

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14 hours ago, JimCost2014 said:

..having a better plan in place for the next Panademic

As long as we don't start the plan from scratch again and improve what we have.

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