Coronavirus

Ithan Henry · April 11, 2020

5 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I see today in the New York Times an API story that says COVID-19 is now the leading cause of death in America. Takes more lives per day. It's just getting warmed up. Still think it's just a bad cold?

Question for the majority. Why are you still engaging this gray fellow? Blocked him a week ago.

I heard that the CDC said it's not the leading cause of death.

Also, I'll engage in a conversation with anyone. It's just the internet, nothing I take serious.

Grumpy Bear · April 11, 2020

Another NYC Times story today. Last three days running daily death count just under 800 per day. BUT almost 800 dead in those same three days found dead at home. COVID-19? They don't know because they are not testing the dead at home due to a lack of resources but hey...seems likely me thinks. That would be 25% of the deaths not being recorded.

The Zip · April 11, 2020

7 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Question for the majority. Why are you still engaging this gray fellow? Blocked him a week ago.

This thread doesn't care if you're left, far right, centered, whatever

Grumpy Bear · April 11, 2020

5 minutes ago, The Zip said:

This thread doesn't care if you're left, far right, centered, whatever

The thread might not. I do. If it isn't rational, it isn't worth it. But hey, have at.

quote: I heard that the CDC said it's not the leading cause of death.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-death-countamp.html

Pick you poison.

Edited April 11, 2020 by Grumpy Bear

The Zip · April 11, 2020

1 hour ago, JimCost2014 said:

I did see last night that the race card is on it's way to the forefront...

It may be brought up but I don't see the race card as far as Coronavirus is concerned. Yes the death numbers for African Americans are terribly high, generational genealogy and essential jobs that keep our society moving, exposed them to unprotected areas more often than others. Although the African American numbers are consistently higher per size of that groups population similar to other cities, Hispanics in LA county performing similar jobs are running 11 percentage points higher than African Americans.

The Zip · April 11, 2020

12 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

The thread might not. I do. If it isn't rational, it isn't worth it. But hey, have at.

That was a spin from another post, but point taken.

Grumpy Bear · April 11, 2020

I've been "Sheltering at Home" so long that I just realized why dogs get so excited about something moving outside, going for walks or car rides. I think I just barked at a squirrel!!

Time to call it a night.

davester · April 11, 2020

5 hours ago, graystonelbz said:

shall we start preparing for earth quakes and hurricanes in MN too, or perhaps a volcano eruption? If we wait long enough certainly something bad will happen

So, nobody in your village gets a flu shot, and nobody gets the flu. Might as well tell the local doctor to get out of town, whenever someone needs him, they'll fly him back.

Edited April 11, 2020 by davester

graystonelbz · April 11, 2020

22 minutes ago, davester said:

So, nobody in your village gets a flu shot, and nobody gets the flu. Might as well tell the local doctor to get out of town, whenever someone needs him, they'll fly him back.

MN and New York aren't really known for having the same geographical size, population,population density, amount of constant international travel etc. It's not really a hot spot for tourism in the winter either believe it or not. Certainly spring breakers and snowbirds coming home for spring are our main contributing factors. We also saw an uptick when all the college kids were sent home from school from all over the country and abroad. After the state being locked down for a month and social distancing in effect its really not rational to think that MN is ever going to become NY in terms of severity. We currently have 1336 cases 732 of which have recovered 314 required hospitalizations and 143 patients currently hospitalized. 57 deaths, 36 of which are from assisted care cases that had co-morbidity. Our peak is said to be next week/week 1/2. I realize some states have capacity issues, but realistically that isn't going to be a problem here. We actually have an outstanding heath care system here as the Mayo Clinic is located in Rochester. So disagree if you like, but I'm very aware of what is happening where I live, and although its sad everywhere, the circumstances here don't justify keeping people(not me) from earning a living and living life. If things got significantly worse than maybe we would have something to talk about. I'm sorry if you are having a tougher time wherever you are.

Edited April 11, 2020 by graystonelbz

Colossus · April 11, 2020

1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I see today in the New York Times an API story that says COVID-19 is now the leading cause of death in America. Takes more lives per day. It's just getting warmed up. Still think it's just a bad cold?

Question for the majority. Why are you still engaging this gray fellow? Blocked him a week ago.

Not yet. There are over 600,000 babies killed each year by abortion. Which as far as I am concerned is a far more dangerous disease and virus.

graystonelbz · April 11, 2020

19 minutes ago, Colossus said:

Not yet. There are over 600,000 babies killed each year by abortion. Which as far as I am concerned is a far more dangerous disease and virus.

and a certain group are fighting for money and rights to continue killing them during this pandemic....Interesting that we care so much only about people passing from this virus. No one ever throws a fit and shuts the world down over abortion, suicide 45,000+/yr, drug overdose 68,000+/yr or any other sort of death at any other point in time. So I guess nobody cares about those 700,000ish people per year. But now everybody is a bleeding heart when they become fearful.

Edited April 11, 2020 by graystonelbz

j-ten-ner · April 11, 2020

As sad as it is, but abortion, suicide and overdose is not contagious.

There is no point in becoming dramatic here.

I couldn't care less about OD's anyway.

so long

j-ten-ner

KARNUT · April 11, 2020

Wow, just turned her backed on. Lively night. You can find sources for how ever you want to spin this. Usually it’s a political bent sadly. Too many people watching the numbers though. They’ll bare out eventually. As much as I like our governor in Texas he seems very conflicted. One day he’s closing the parks. If you can’t social distances there you’re pretty screwed everywhere else. The next day talking about opening the state back up. I think we get it now, it’s up to us. Or we can wait just a little longer and unemployment will take care of the social distances for us. I can’t imagine people going to large gatherings without some kind of widespread rapid testing. Cruising don’t see it recovering for awhile, if ever. My first cross country trip usually after tax season. Will be pushed back. Casinos, that will be interesting.

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Grumpy Bear · April 11, 2020

7 hours ago, Colossus said:

Not yet. There are over 600,000 babies killed each year by abortion. Which as far as I am concerned is a far more dangerous disease and virus.

That is deplorable but......yea, a bit dramatic. Nothing a baby can do about it. This isn't that....

Grumpy Bear · April 11, 2020

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Wow, just turned her backed on. Lively night. You can find sources for how ever you want to spin this. Usually it’s a political bent sadly. Too many people watching the numbers though. They’ll bare out eventually. As much as I like our governor in Texas he seems very conflicted. One day he’s closing the parks. If you can’t social distances there you’re pretty screwed everywhere else. The next day talking about opening the state back up. I think we get it now, it’s up to us. Or we can wait just a little longer and unemployment will take care of the social distances for us. I can’t imagine people going to large gatherings without some kind of widespread rapid testing. Cruising don’t see it recovering for awhile, if ever. My first cross country trip usually after tax season. Will be pushed back. Casinos, that will be interesting.

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I agree they are not entirely accurate. Neither is the speedometer in my car, thermostat in my house or my $5 Timex watch but they are still useful in guiding me, making me comfortable and getting to the dance on time. Flawed, yes but useful and close enough to tell the tail....point me to a certifiable more accurate measure and I'm there.....gut checks not withstanding.