Oil catch can?

[RyanbabZ71]

As long as you get the single you will be fine their double is made for supercharged (camaro ZL1)

 

 

Ryan

[TanMan22]

Thanks everyone for your reply's I appreciate it. I will be ordering one right now

[Silverado-Hareek]

So has anyone looked into BG cleaning services for DI engines? I was speaking to a trusted mechanic friend of mine last night about his take on oil catch cans. While he agreed they do help, he said they don't catch 100% of everything and stuff will still get through the can. In his opinion, you still should be cleaning these engines out about once a year or every 15,000 miles to keep them clean and functioning in tip top shape. He said an oil catch can would definitely help and he'd be glad to install one for me if I wanted one, but in his opinion it would be a waste of money from the standpoint that I would still need to clean the engine out anyway. He's a pretty knowledgeable GM guy and I trust his opinion. I will also add that I mainly commute to work in my truck with the occasional hauling/towing in doing home projects throughout the year so I don't push the vehicle very hard. I'm sure if I was towing more often and did some performance upgrades to get more speed and power, that increases the likelihood of oil blow by and deposits forming on the valves so an oil catch can would definitely be a good upgrade in that scenario. But it basically won't eliminate the need to clean the engine 100%.

Edited September 9, 2014 by Silverado-Hareek

[14'SilveradoLT]

I'm seriously thinking about adding some meth/alky injection to the AFE pipe and a catch can....between the two the DI engine should be good to go without a cleaning for a pretty good while.

[bigsapper]

Please explain this cleaning service.

[Silverado-Hareek]

Please explain this cleaning service.

 

It's a two part system. One is a cleaner that gets pumped through your fuel system at the gas tank, the other is a cleaner that goes in through the throttle body to clean off the valves where the carbon build up usually occurs. BG's website explains it more and the mechanic could explain it better than I can. Here's a video of the service:

 

 

[Silverado-Hareek]

Check this video out as well:

 

 

[Silverado-Hareek]

Honestly I'll probably still add a catch can to help keep things clean but I'll probably wait until after my first BG cleaning service at 15,000 miles sometime next year

[topshelfproducts]

I have a couple of old catch cans in the garage I bought off ebay earlier this year and never installed on my last car. The were $20 a piece and really nice construction, I may have to plumb one in.

 

On another note, what about good old seafoam? I have seafoamed a lot of my vehicles over the years with great success, just always changed plugs out afterwords worried that they would keep all the residue from cleaning. I would think a good old seafoam treatment would have the same benefits?

[Crf450r420]

As I stated before I'm going to setup an on vehicle spray system using old nitrous kit parts for this reason. My plan is to use seafoam to do the cleaning $10 or so a bottle and rather than doing these rough one time cleanings. I'll spray it from time to time to keep under control more like a normal injection system would. I thought of another thing I could do with it, I can make it smoke on command. Most people will think it blew up. LOL

 

There is a way to reduce this issue by a lot more. disconnect the case from the intake and use a scavenger system. This idea will really piss of any tree huggers and won't work for you in those Nazi states with emissions. This will have the biggest impact without cleaning however do to reversion in the intake it will still need cleaning.

[Silverado-Hareek]

Ok so the BG service is actually a 3 part process, not 2. The products used are BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner, BG 44k Fuel system cleaner, and BG ISC Induction System cleaner. It took the mechanic about an hour to hour and a half to do it right. Materials for my wife's Hyundai accent were about $60 and labor was about $100. I'm thinking for a silverado you'd have a little extra labor for time but probably most of the cost difference would be in more of the cleaning compounds since it's a V8 instead of a V4.

 

Obviously one cleaning is nearly the price of the catch can. But if you plan on keeping the truck for a long time, it makes sense to do it once a year whether you have a catch can or not. I could see the catch can reducing how much crud has to be cleaned out and maybe you can do the cleaning service every 30,000 miles instead of 15,000. But I think in the long term there's really no way to avoid 100% any type of cleaning of the engine.

 

As I said I'll probably add a catch can later and continue to do the yearly cleaning service.

Edited September 10, 2014 by Silverado-Hareek

[14'SilveradoLT]

Just a disclaimer, "these one time cleanings" are not usually recommended very often. The reason is because small carbon deposits can get caught near/on the rings and then scar the cylinder walls.

 

These cleanings work well----but just remember---it's probably better to keep it as clean as possible.

[gone_fishing]

Here is a product from CRC that I'm thinking about giving a try: http://crcindustries.com/auto/intake-valve-cleaner.php

[Silverado-Hareek]

Just a disclaimer, "these one time cleanings" are not usually recommended very often. The reason is because small carbon deposits can get caught near/on the rings and then scar the cylinder walls.

 

These cleanings work well----but just remember---it's probably better to keep it as clean as possible.

 

I understand your point, but I'd argue cleaning them MORE often would prevent the problem you describe. In other words cleaning a small amount of deposits once a year is better than waiting 50,000 miles and forcing way more "crud" through the system at one time. BG will actually warranty your engine if you do the yearly cleaning service with their product.....they stand behind it.

[Crf450r420]

exactly. Also, it the more layers there are the less likely this none manual style of cleaning will get everything off the valve. If it's good for 7 layers and you have 10, lets just say, you will still have 3 layers after the cleaning. I guess it would be more of thickness, but I think you can get the point.