Are these bullets really "self-defense"?

kstruckcountry · July 5, 2015

Call it what you want, still goes bang.

SouthernSilveradoGuy85 · July 5, 2015

That must be one big 45 ACP pistol. I have a P14-45 that is 15 rounds fully loaded and it is one BAP.

20 round 9mm pea shooter yes.

I would hardly call a 9mm as a pea shooter. Maybe a 22 or a 380 ACP, but not a 9mm. I have a 33 round mag for my Glock 19 that's for the Glock 18 which is the full auto full size 9mm. My Glock 19 has a decent kick for being a 9mm medium length barrel.

waumo1 · July 5, 2015

I would hardly call a 9mm as a pea shooter. Maybe a 22 or a 380 ACP, but not a 9mm. I have a 33 round mag for my Glock 19 that's for the Glock 18 which is the full auto full size 9mm. My Glock 19 has a decent kick for being a 9mm medium length barrel.

Just stirring. I do have some 9s, including a 380 ACP and 38 Super. The 38 Super is my favorite 9.

LeoS41280 · July 5, 2015

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kstruckcountry · July 5, 2015

Just stirring. I do have some 9s, including a 380 ACP and 38 Super. The 38 Super is my favorite 9.

I like my XD. The 4.5" barrel is great.

BlackZ71Silverado · July 7, 2015

That question is kinda like asking "Is this can of beer really for drinking?"

With that statement, it's obvious you are not familiar with different types of ammunition. Your comparison is absurd.

DevildogSoldier · July 10, 2015

Caliber arguments are fun to watch...

The adequate caliber is the one you can most effectively stop the threat with (accurate HITS in the most vital areas, under extreme duress).

Many have fallen from the "pea-shooter" .22.

Aaron1085 · December 28, 2015

147 hollow point in my off duty is what I like. Definitely shoots a bit different than the 115 grain range ammo.

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Imcrazy · December 29, 2015

147 hollow point in my off duty is what I like. Definitely shoots a bit different than the 115 grain range ammo.

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I run 147 grain HST in both of my 9mm's I like Federal HST best. I have some standard pressure rounds that I run in my XDS and I wound up buying +p for my M&P 4.25 I would have gotten std pressure for m M&P but, I couldn't find 'em I the +p is very pleasant to shoot.

Truckin 55 · January 9, 2016

While waiting for back ground check shopped around for 38+P ammo, Shop was very busy and not much help. First box was 38+P Critical Defense 115 grain put that back and bought 50rd box 129 Grain 38+P. Reading manual this morning it stated not use +P Ammo unless needed and not for practice. Remember now 10 years ago used .38 and +P for practice with 357 Mag. , need advise to return the 50 round box 38+P or keep it

TimmyG · January 9, 2016

Ammo is no returnable. And +p is just a little more stress for the gun. Thats why they dont recommend shooting it all the time. My smith and wesson 642 says the same thing in the paper work

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Truckin 55 · January 9, 2016

Thanks , will fire a round of +P now then and keep a couple rounds for CC.

Gurrzt · January 10, 2016

ANY .45 round will do the job, it is a low velocity round, and for self defense, you would probably be @ 20 yards or less. I would not want to be on the wrong end of a .45

You should check out the "PerFecta" brand @ Wally World, you can purchase a box of 50 for $15.44, brass case, FMJ. It is manufactured in Italy and distributed by "Tulamo".

Very clean round.

MikeNH · January 10, 2016

ANY .45 round will do the job, it is a low velocity round, and for self defense, you would probably be @ 20 yards or less. I would not want to be on the wrong end of a .45

You should check out the "PerFecta" brand @ Wally World, you can purchase a box of 50 for $15.44, brass case, FMJ. It is manufactured in Italy and distributed by "Tulamo".

Very clean round.

Hardly. If you're going to carry you want a proven JHP round, not some cheap unknown. The ammo you describe is fine for range use but that's all.

Gurrzt · January 10, 2016

Hardly. If you're going to carry you want a proven JHP round, not some cheap unknown. The ammo you describe is fine for range use but that's all.

Well then sir, let's conduct an experiment, you stand still, and let me shoot you from 10 yards away with the PerFecta ammunition, and see if you live to tell about it (no disrespect intended).

I still believe that ANY .45 acp 230 grain bullet (target or not) will "Get er done".