SLP Stage 2 Performance Pack for the 6.2L

[Megatron84]

Hi Everyone,

Just recently picked up a 17' Sierra Denali with the 6.2L and I'm already thinking about a Exhaust, CAI, & Tune.

Kind of been eyeing up the SLP Stage 2 Performance Pack (http://www.slponline.com/product/620075--.html).

Has anyone else put this combo on there truck? If so, do you like it? Regret it? etc...

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks!!

[boseephuss]

+1 for any feedback. Thanks for posting!

[snowman44]

I'd like to hear how they sound.

[Megatron84]

Snowman44 - Here's a clip of the exhaust note

http://www.slponline.com/mm5/audio/620080-audio.wav

[Driver72]

$1,400 for that package is a fantastic price.

Though I liked the sound of that exhaust, it will be too aggressive for the wife in the truck.

Too bad they didn't offer an exhaust that was about 50% quieter than that sound bite, but still 50% louder than the whisper quiet of the stock exhaust.

[ChevyRoofer]

Snowman44 - Here's a clip of the exhaust note

http://www.slponline.com/mm5/audio/620080-audio.wav

 

$1,400 for that package is a fantastic price.

Though I liked the sound of that exhaust, it will be too aggressive for the wife in the truck.

Too bad they didn't offer an exhaust that was about 50% quieter than that sound bite, but still 50% louder than the whisper quiet of the stock exhaust.

 

I can't comment on the SLP package as I've never heard of it...but I disagree, that's a lot of $$ for all that's included in that package. It seems like it's a higher price than normal since they give you all 3 items instead of separating them out from different manufacturers. Convenience.

 

1) Exhaust - You can go with a full catback system that ranges anywhere between $ 750-1000. I have a Borla S-Type for $1k add from the dealer. Corsa would also be similar price. Top of the line exhausts with no drone.

2) CAI - You will see very minimal gains with a full CAI. Most of us here use the AirRaid MIT tube ($100) to give us the rumble from a CAI, and leaving the stock box in place. There are also some dyno tests online on the AirRaid MIT tube stating that in some instances, it makes more HP than a full CAI.

3) Tune - This looks like a canned tune, similar to a Diablo pre-loaded tune. You could get a custom tune from BlackBear Performance for $340. With a custom tune, they have more options to change torque management or TCM/ECM changes. Do a simple search on here and you will see how many people rave about BBP.

 

So with a Borla S-Type full catback exhaust ($1000), an AirRaid MIT tube ($100), and a BBP custom tune ($340), comes to roughly $ 1440.00.

 

And I think you would have 10x better products/quality for basically the exact same price.

[wuznme]

 

 

I can't comment on the SLP package as I've never heard of it...but I disagree, that's a lot of $$ for all that's included in that package. It seems like it's a higher price than normal since they give you all 3 items instead of separating them out from different manufacturers. Convenience.

 

1) Exhaust - You can go with a full catback system that ranges anywhere between $ 750-1000. I have a Borla S-Type for $1k add from the dealer. Corsa would also be similar price. Top of the line exhausts with no drone.

2) CAI - You will see very minimal gains with a full CAI. Most of us here use the AirRaid MIT tube ($100) to give us the rumble from a CAI, and leaving the stock box in place. There are also some dyno tests online on the AirRaid MIT tube stating that in some instances, it makes more HP than a full CAI.

3) Tune - This looks like a canned tune, similar to a Diablo pre-loaded tune. You could get a custom tune from BlackBear Performance for $340. With a custom tune, they have more options to change torque management or TCM/ECM changes. Do a simple search on here and you will see how many people rave about BBP.

 

So with a Borla S-Type full catback exhaust ($1000), an AirRaid MIT tube ($100), and a BBP custom tune ($340), comes to roughly $ 1440.00.

 

And I think you would have 10x better products/quality for basically the exact same price.

 

 

 

^^^ This!

 

Also not a lot of tuners use SCT platform for tuning.

[emeryz28]

I wonder if they have the 8 speed tranny program in that SCT tuner. I know Diablo is still trying to get one for the 8 speed TCM

[Driver72]

 

 

I can't comment on the SLP package as I've never heard of it...but I disagree, that's a lot of $$ for all that's included in that package. It seems like it's a higher price than normal since they give you all 3 items instead of separating them out from different manufacturers. Convenience.

 

1) Exhaust - You can go with a full catback system that ranges anywhere between $ 750-1000. I have a Borla S-Type for $1k add from the dealer. Corsa would also be similar price. Top of the line exhausts with no drone.

2) CAI - You will see very minimal gains with a full CAI. Most of us here use the AirRaid MIT tube ($100) to give us the rumble from a CAI, and leaving the stock box in place. There are also some dyno tests online on the AirRaid MIT tube stating that in some instances, it makes more HP than a full CAI.

3) Tune - This looks like a canned tune, similar to a Diablo pre-loaded tune. You could get a custom tune from BlackBear Performance for $340. With a custom tune, they have more options to change torque management or TCM/ECM changes. Do a simple search on here and you will see how many people rave about BBP.

 

So with a Borla S-Type full catback exhaust ($1000), an AirRaid MIT tube ($100), and a BBP custom tune ($340), comes to roughly $ 1440.00.

 

And I think you would have 10x better products/quality for basically the exact same price.

 

 

 

Borla Catbacks list for $1,000- $1,200 alone.

Corsa is like $1,400 alone.

 

You may use just a tube for $100 but this is a full CAI system, which most go for $300-400. Most people know CAI on their own make very little power on most any car/truck, but many do them for the sound. Same with a catback exhaust on it's own. You add CAI and a catback exhaust however and you should get 10-15+ hp on the 6.2

 

Canned tune or not, the handheld tuners SCT, Diablo, etc. are all usually $450-600.

Not sure how the Blackbear tune is, but if it's a version of needing to send in your ECU to have it tuned, that costs money and time, and then not easily returned back to stock. A lot of people, including myself have no interest in having to do it that way. I don't care if a custom tune will get 5-10 hp more, it's a PITA to have to deal with all the sending stuff in and sending it back, and then if you have to take your vehicle in for basic service you can't go back to stock in 5 minutes for that. I'll take the slightly less hp for a basic more conservative tune that can flash back and forth at will, or load in custom tunes at will from a tuning shop.

 

For the $1,400 of this SLP package, it seems a good price. And if they back up their claim of 34 RWHP (or about 40-42 crank hp) that's not bad at all for these engines for a $1,400 price with a conservative canned tune that can easily and quickly be put back to stock. Now I'm not stating or endorsing this SLP brand, I know little to nothing of them. They may be junk, but they may be great. If they are junk then I wouldn't pay $800 for this package. If they are great, then the package may be worth $1,800. If they are perfectly acceptable and overall pretty well received with good customer service and above average products, then the $1,400 is a good price.

[Driver72]

 

 

 

^^^ This!

 

Also not a lot of tuners use SCT platform for tuning.

 

 

 

I don't know really, but I used the SCT tuner back in 2011 when I got my Mustang GT 5.0 and in combination with a JLT CAI it gave me IIRC 43 rwhp more. It was good.

And I know they've been around for a long time too, and still support many platforms.

Diablo and many others are around now too, so there are many to choose from depending on the brand of vehicle you have.

I've used several different myself, but as far as I know, SCT is around and still does very well selling tuners for many different brands.

For a canned tune, they've got to be one of the more recognizable companies that people use.

 

But on a side note, I haven't had a tune on one of my cars in the past 3-4 years as it's getting harder and harder to do so and hide it, as manufacturers are cracking down on them, and to me on NA engines, adding 20-40 hp with a tune isn't worth losing the powertrain warranty.

I remember when the BMW 335i came out in late 2006, I got one in early 2007, and used my car as a beta tester for the PROcede and then the JuiceBox as I was friends with Shiv first then Terry. A simple, basic tune on that twin turbo car added 50-60 hp with no other supporting mods, on pump gas. It was awesome.

Flash back to stock and BMW had no idea it was ever there. Now they, like most manufacturers can tell IF they look for it for engine or powertrain warranty claims.

Plus manufacturers are making it really hard to tune many cars now. You need to buy a new ECU and install it so the OE one isn't tainted.

[ChevyRoofer]

 

 

 

Borla Catbacks list for $1,000- $1,200 alone. - WRONG

Corsa is like $1,400 alone. WRONG

 

You may use just a tube for $100 but this is a full CAI system, which most go for $300-400. Most people know CAI on their own make very little power on most any car/truck, but many do them for the sound. Same with a catback exhaust on it's own. You add CAI and a catback exhaust however and you should get 10-15+ hp on the 6.2

 

Canned tune or not, the handheld tuners SCT, Diablo, etc. are all usually $450-600.

Not sure how the Blackbear tune is, but if it's a version of needing to send in your ECU to have it tuned, that costs money and time, and then not easily returned back to stock. A lot of people, including myself have no interest in having to do it that way. I don't care if a custom tune will get 5-10 hp more, it's a PITA to have to deal with all the sending stuff in and sending it back, and then if you have to take your vehicle in for basic service you can't go back to stock in 5 minutes for that. I'll take the slightly less hp for a basic more conservative tune that can flash back and forth at will, or load in custom tunes at will from a tuning shop. WRONG INFO

 

For the $1,400 of this SLP package, it seems a good price. And if they back up their claim of 34 RWHP (or about 40-42 crank hp) that's not bad at all for these engines for a $1,400 price with a conservative canned tune that can easily and quickly be put back to stock. Now I'm not stating or endorsing this SLP brand, I know little to nothing of them. They may be junk, but they may be great. If they are junk then I wouldn't pay $800 for this package. If they are great, then the package may be worth $1,800. If they are perfectly acceptable and overall pretty well received with good customer service and above average products, then the $1,400 is a good price.

 

 

 

 

I don't know really, but I used the SCT tuner back in 2011 when I got my Mustang GT 5.0 and in combination with a JLT CAI it gave me IIRC 43 rwhp more. It was good.

And I know they've been around for a long time too, and still support many platforms.

Diablo and many others are around now too, so there are many to choose from depending on the brand of vehicle you have.

I've used several different myself, but as far as I know, SCT is around and still does very well selling tuners for many different brands.

For a canned tune, they've got to be one of the more recognizable companies that people use.

 

But on a side note, I haven't had a tune on one of my cars in the past 3-4 years as it's getting harder and harder to do so and hide it, as manufacturers are cracking down on them, and to me on NA engines, adding 20-40 hp with a tune isn't worth losing the powertrain warranty.

I remember when the BMW 335i came out in late 2006, I got one in early 2007, and used my car as a beta tester for the PROcede and then the JuiceBox as I was friends with Shiv first then Terry. A simple, basic tune on that twin turbo car added 50-60 hp with no other supporting mods, on pump gas. It was awesome.

Flash back to stock and BMW had no idea it was ever there. Now they, like most manufacturers can tell IF they look for it for engine or powertrain warranty claims.

Plus manufacturers are making it really hard to tune many cars now. You need to buy a new ECU and install it so the OE one isn't tainted. - WRONG

 

Damn that took awhile to read that piece.

 

A lot of the information you wrote is pure speculation unfortunately. I guess some people have been feeding you bad information over the years, but vehicles have definitely changed from 10 years ago.

 

However, you do have one good point in regards to the tuning software, especially since there is a counter system now in the ECU that tracks how many times the system is flashed. But many people on here have this exact same tune from BBP (a supported Vendor of GM Trucks), and have NEVER had a problem. They've also brought their trucks into dealerships and have had no problem. But you're right, this IS a case by case basis. Many people report different things happening depending on the dealership.

 

But, $340 is a fantastic price for a custom drop-in tune, in person. With BBP you can buy the Auto-Cal ($150-200 or so) as well and revert back to stock settings or a different tune from BBP - but this is not required!!!! Meaning you don't have to send in your ECU like on older vehicles and you can do this from the comfort of your home in about a week with data logs. And everyone knows that Auto-Cal tunes have the ability to change more parameters than a canned tune. Significantly more actually. And you can flash your vehicle back to stock in under 5 minutes.

 

Also just a side note for 30 seconds of google searching:

 

Borla S-Type for $1k delivered. https://www.autohance.com/borla-cat-back-exhaust-s-type-140545.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAjvrBBRDxm_nRusW3q1QSJAAzRI1tj18ZBq2FKJKIlvJzvroYsb4hc0xIEsqHn2vczM2E8RoCMSfw_wcB

 

Corsa Sport - $ 1143. https://www.realtruck.com/corsa-performance-exhaust-systems/?utm_campaign=product_ads&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=906472&productid=906472&cparam=519495&gclid=CjwKEAiAjvrBBRDxm_nRusW3q1QSJAAzRI1tqs19WDE-aJ15nMdAv6Cu5RGUFJkbtDOAsPBv9oubrBoC4onw_wcB

 

And here is BBP doing a test of different CAI systems to see if there is any difference. Waiting on results.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/190580-2016-gm-independent-air-intake-testing-black-bear-performance/

[BLUE72CAMARO]

I dont know anything about the system for the truck but I had a SLP loudmouth system on my 02 SS when I bought it. It droned horribly at cruising speed and was obnoxious on long trips.

[Driver72]

 

 

Damn that took awhile to read that piece.

 

A lot of the information you wrote is pure speculation unfortunately. I guess some people have been feeding you bad information over the years, but vehicles have definitely changed from 10 years ago.

** Like what is pure speculation?**

 

However, you do have one good point in regards to the tuning software, especially since there is a counter system now in the ECU that tracks how many times the system is flashed. But many people on here have this exact same tune from BBP (a supported Vendor of GM Trucks), and have NEVER had a problem. They've also brought their trucks into dealerships and have had no problem. But you're right, this IS a case by case basis. Many people report different things happening depending on the dealership.

**OK so above you keep saying "WRONG" and "WRONG INFO" but then point out how right I was on this point.**

 

But, $340 is a fantastic price for a custom drop-in tune, in person. With BBP you can buy the Auto-Cal ($150-200 or so) as well and revert back to stock settings or a different tune from BBP - but this is not required!!!! Meaning you don't have to send in your ECU like on older vehicles and you can do this from the comfort of your home in about a week with data logs. And everyone knows that Auto-Cal tunes have the ability to change more parameters than a canned tune. Significantly more actually. And you can flash your vehicle back to stock in under 5 minutes.

 

**Again, I'm not wrong, I'm right. $340 "in person". How many people live within a short drive to them to go in person? Anybody else has to spend a bunch of time driving there and back, or spend a week of data logging then send stuff back and forth. Just as my correct point was. Then you say, well you can flash back and forth IF you buy the Auto-Cal. Ok so as you point out that is another $200, so the BBP tune and Auto-Cal is now $500+ dollars, right in line with a canned tune that you can get and put in the next day without all the time spent driving back and forth and/or shipping shipping back and forth. So again, how was I wrong?**

And so you know, yes I am right about having to buy another ECU for some manufacturers in order to tune. That's what you have to do with say my Hellcat, since their encryption is very tough. There in fact IS many other manufacturers where if you don't want them to find the tune, you actually do need to buy a new ECU and swap it. Nothing wrong I said there either. And again, after saying I was "wrong" you admit that getting your warranty voided is a case by case or dealership by dealership case. This is true, but as I also pointed out, many manufacturers are now REQUIRING dealerships to scan the engine ECU before any powertrain warranty work is done, thereby risking your warranty. So again how was I wrong about my points?**

 

Also just a side note for 30 seconds of google searching:

 

Borla S-Type for $1k delivered. https://www.autohance.com/borla-cat-back-exhaust-s-type-140545.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAjvrBBRDxm_nRusW3q1QSJAAzRI1tj18ZBq2FKJKIlvJzvroYsb4hc0xIEsqHn2vczM2E8RoCMSfw_wcB

 

Corsa Sport - $ 1143. https://www.realtruck.com/corsa-performance-exhaust-systems/?utm_campaign=product_ads&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=906472&productid=906472&cparam=519495&gclid=CjwKEAiAjvrBBRDxm_nRusW3q1QSJAAzRI1tqs19WDE-aJ15nMdAv6Cu5RGUFJkbtDOAsPBv9oubrBoC4onw_wcB

 

 

** I was quoting the prices for the Borla with from GM if you want the flapper valve in and it to be warrantied by GM. It's $1,200-1,300**

Corsa is always a bit more.

 

And here is BBP doing a test of different CAI systems to see if there is any difference. Waiting on results.

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/190580-2016-gm-independent-air-intake-testing-black-bear-performance/

 

**And yes I'm aware of this test that's taking months to do and weeks and weeks to get results from. I have tested many CAI myself, and am aware of what many do on various cars. Many do absolutely NOTHING on stock cars without tunes, some give 5-15 hp gains up top, but you lose some torque down low, others if the stock car has a restrictive intake can give you a bit of power through out with no tune.

Many of us tried many on the Hellcat's some that claimed up to 30-35 rwhp. In dyno testing, track testing, and VBox testing they did squat. You can read my post about it on Hellcat.org if you'd like.**

 

Again, point is, for many to buy a CAI you will spend:

$350-450

To get a Tune, a canned tune like this SLP package is offering you'll spend

$450-600

To get a catback exhaust system you'll spend:

$1,000-1,400

 

For them to sell all three at $1,400 is a pretty good price. That is, if it gives the 6.2 the 34 rwhp it actually claims, and is of quality construction.

 

I've owned over 50 new cars, many have been modded, tuned, raced, etc. I am well aware of what many of these things do and what is required. I am new to the GM trucks and the 6.2 liter engine however, so I've never made a claim that what I've been posting is exact for these trucks, I think I've made that clear by saying "many manufacturers" and so forth.

 

Over and out on this one, no point in continuing this dialogue.

Cheers

 

 

Responses in blue above.

[ChevyRoofer]

Speculation - Giving an opinion/theory with no evidence. It would be true about most what you said.

 

I said you were right about the manufacturer's knowing you've tuned your vehicle, correct.

This is the part that is the wrong info: I don't care if a custom tune will get 5-10 hp more, it's a PITA to have to deal with all the sending stuff in and sending it back, and then if you have to take your vehicle in for basic service you can't go back to stock in 5 minutes for that. I'll take the slightly less hp for a basic more conservative tune that can flash back and forth at will, or load in custom tunes at will from a tuning shop. WRONG INFO

The BBP tune can flash back in under 5 minutes, you also don't send "stuff in". The only thing you send in is your data logs, via EMAIL.

 

**Again, I'm not wrong, I'm right. $340 "in person". How many people live within a short drive to them to go in person?

BBP goes to different city locations where you would meet him at his hotel in the city, and he would drive around with you and do an "in-person tune." That is the $340 price. The only reason you'd need an Auto-Cal ($500+ price), is if you wanted to flash back your system to stock, or to use a different custom tune.

 

And so you know, yes I am right about having to buy another ECU for some manufacturers in order to tune. That's what you have to do with say my Hellcat, since their encryption is very tough. There in fact IS many other manufacturers where if you don't want them to find the tune, you actually do need to buy a new ECU and swap it.

Again, I was referencing GM/Chevy vehicles since this is a GM trucks forums, AND since the OP has a GM truck...not Dodge. I'm sure you're absolutely right for other manufacturers, but we wouldn't discuss them here.

 

I have tested many CAI myself, and am aware of what many do on various cars

Do you have any dynos of a GM vehicle? I'm sure that would help BBP on their testing you're following.

 

 

Now they, like most manufacturers can tell IF they look for it for engine or powertrain warranty claims.

Plus manufacturers are making it really hard to tune many cars now. You need to buy a new ECU and install it so the OE one isn't tainted.

 

I am new to the GM trucks and the 6.2 liter engine however, so I've never made a claim that what I've been posting is exact for these trucks, I think I've made that clear by saying "many manufacturers" and so forth.

 

I guess I must've missed where you used this "many manufacturers" quote. And why you would be posting other manufacturer's info on a GM vehicles site, or even on this thread about a Denali?

If you ever want to get acquainted with GM specific mods (instead of "many [different] manufacturers"), this is the place to be, get to reading.

 

Welcome to the forums. OP/Driver72: You can message me anytime if you have any questions. Love to help.

[Driver72]

Ok, it's all good man. My final responses to this are in orange. Don't really want to argue about it as in the bigger picture it's pretty irrelevant. So my thoughts in orange below. Talk to you later and see you in future posts brother.

 

 

 

 

Speculation - Giving an opinion/theory with no evidence. It would be true about most what you said.

​** Again, I didn't speculate about anything, it wasn't a theory what I stated.**

 

I said you were right about the manufacturer's knowing you've tuned your vehicle, correct.

This is the part that is the wrong info: I don't care if a custom tune will get 5-10 hp more, it's a PITA to have to deal with all the sending stuff in and sending it back, and then if you have to take your vehicle in for basic service you can't go back to stock in 5 minutes for that. I'll take the slightly less hp for a basic more conservative tune that can flash back and forth at will, or load in custom tunes at will from a tuning shop. WRONG INFO

 

The BBP tune can flash back in under 5 minutes, you also don't send "stuff in". The only thing you send in is your data logs, via EMAIL.

 

**Again, you said I said wrong info, but with the $340 BBR tune as I was speaking of, how can you flash it back to stock unless you buy the Auto-Cal? So those who go into the shop in person and have a tune done can not flash it back to stock unless they spend the extra $200 for the tuner right?

I mentioned about sending stuff back and forth, you stated "wrong info" but then you said, "the only thing you send in is your data logs." Point again, no matter what you still need to take time AND send something in and wait for the tune to come back, and as I stated and made a comment on, without the additional Auto-Cal you mentioned to me after my original point about the BBR $300+ tune, you can't flash it back in 5 minutes before a dealer visit, right?

In order to do so, from what I gather you need the Auto-Cal, in which case you are spending the same amount on the BBR tune and Auto-Cal as a canned tuner, and you still need a week of data logs, then sending them in, then getting the BBR tune and Auto-Cal. So on a NA truck like the 6.2, will a custom tune net you more than 5-10 additional hp as I stated?

I'm still trying to figure out what I was wrong about or gave wrong information about? I'll admit the extra 5-10 hp in the custom tune was an educated guess from past experience, but I have a feeling I'm probably right about that figure no?

 

**Again, I'm not wrong, I'm right. $340 "in person". How many people live within a short drive to them to go in person?

BBP goes to different city locations where you would meet him at his hotel in the city, and he would drive around with you and do an "in-person tune." That is the $340 price. The only reason you'd need an Auto-Cal ($500+ price), is if you wanted to flash back your system to stock, or to use a different custom tune.

** Well again, what part of what i originally said is wrong then. You'd have to wait until he came to your city, then meet up with him, drive around and take this extra time for what 5-10 hp? And again, you mentioned what I said originally was wrong info, but then admit here that you can only flash it back to stock IF you pay $500 total including the Auto-Cal, but you still need to either send stuff back and forth, or wait for the guy to show up at your city and then you need to meet up with him. For very busy people that's a lot of work, when you can order a canned tune and have it the next day for the same $500 and be driving around on it the next day with no other time or money spent.**

 

 

And so you know, yes I am right about having to buy another ECU for some manufacturers in order to tune. That's what you have to do with say my Hellcat, since their encryption is very tough. There in fact IS many other manufacturers where if you don't want them to find the tune, you actually do need to buy a new ECU and swap it.

Again, I was referencing GM/Chevy vehicles since this is a GM trucks forums, AND since the OP has a GM truck...not Dodge. I'm sure you're absolutely right for other manufacturers, but we wouldn't discuss them here.

**Sorry for any confusion here. I thought it was clear in my post I was mentioning "many other manufacturers" and never stated GM or this truck directly.**

 

I have tested many CAI myself, and am aware of what many do on various cars

Do you have any dynos of a GM vehicle? I'm sure that would help BBP on their testing you're following.

**No but good God it's taking BBR forever to test a few CAI and then report the results. I almost sent an email to Jenna and told them to just send the CAI's to me, I'll do actual on road/track testing of the CAI's in various acceleration tests in various gears and see what the results are in the REAL world not on rollers trying to mimic real world with what is likely insufficient fans and if they did it with the hood up is worthless. But my time is money, so if I did that for them, I'd need a bit of compensation or something. **

 

I am new to the GM trucks and the 6.2 liter engine however, so I've never made a claim that what I've been posting is exact for these trucks, I think I've made that clear by saying "many manufacturers" and so forth.

 

I guess I must've missed where you used this "many manufacturers" quote. And why you would be posting other manufacturer's info on a GM vehicles site, or even on this thread about a Denali?

If you ever want to get acquainted with GM specific mods (instead of "many [different] manufacturers"), this is the place to be, get to reading.

 

Welcome to the forums. OP/Driver72: You can message me anytime if you have any questions. Love to help.

 

** Thanks man, and yes, it's fun to learn new things about vehicles that are new to me. I've had the 2017 Sierra with the 6.2 for a month now. Take it easy man. See you in future posts. **