Another CAI question

[SS502]

2 hours ago, qwank said:

some people cut the sheet metal as well, but the hole is already close to that size.  

 

here's a picture that shows you what you would need to cut, it's not much so I decided it wouldn't make much of a difference.  

 

That far away from the intake valves...that tiny bit of trimming isnt going to do anything performance wise.

[Jacoby]

I have an S&B. Looks badass and performs well. 

[BCMoto]

I went with the AFE Momentum i like how the filter element is enclosed and takes in air from the fender and a opening up toward the grill. It does sound good and I think it made a difference in performance and throttle response.

[kennerz]

I had a modded stock box similar to the photos, a AEM dryflow filter, and a air raid M.I.T together. Worked pretty good (noticeable gain over factory) Then went to the AFE GT momentum, The AFE moves more air, The overall filter size/inlet , plus the tube are significantly larger,  and shaped better. I noticed a large pick up in torque over the modded factory, plus seemed to pull better everywhere

 

On a budget the modded factory air box is better than some of the mediocre CAI designs out there. The top tier intakes do perform better but cost more. I was ready to return the AFE if it did not produce, it exceeded my expectations.

 

On the AFE I had to reset the computer for it to re-learn, picked up after that. Really complements a tune if you go that direction.

[SquireSCA]

Well, my MIT tube will be here tomorrow, I will install that and run the stock box with my K&N air filter.  Maybe I will open the inlet some while I am in there and see how she does.  I would think that at that point, with my 91 octane performance tune, that the overall gains will be pretty decent and going the full CAI would be minimal at that point...

[Shakeydeal]

Well what's fascinating is if you look on Amazon at reviews of the K&N Performance intake, 87% of the 446 customers gave 4/5 star reviews. So obviously there are a lot of people out there that at least think these things improve performance. Most report better throttle response and/or gas mileage. Could all these people be imagining this?

 

I'm curious because I'm on the fence about whether to do this mod or not.

 

Shakey

[jaxcam02]

2 hours ago, Shakeydeal said:

Well what's fascinating is if you look on Amazon at reviews of the K&N Performance intake, 87% of the 446 customers gave 4/5 star reviews. So obviously there are a lot of people out there that at least think these things improve performance. Most report better throttle response and/or gas mileage. Could all these people be imagining this?

 

I'm curious because I'm on the fence about whether to do this mod or not.

 

Shakey

I will never buy another "high-flow" filter again. You ever look at the buildup of dust in the intake with a "high-flow" filter? I've had bad experiences with them allowing very fine particulates into the combustion chamber because their fibers are further apart than the paper filters. The better throttle response and gas mileage probably doesn't last very long after the people comment on the product.

Now the piping of the aftermarket products is definitely an improvement over OEM baffled intake.

[Nitrousbird]

1 hour ago, Shakeydeal said:

Most report better throttle response and/or gas mileage. Could all these people be imagining this?

 

I'm curious because I'm on the fence about whether to do this mod or not.

If you want it for gas mileage...do not waste you money as there will be zero difference. Even a clogged air filter won't make a difference in fuel mileage. You motor meters the air coming in and adjusts fuel mapping accordingly. Less air restriction just means the throttle blade is closed slight more...same fuel is being used. 

[Shakeydeal]

I don't give a whit about gas mileage. But a improved throttle response would be nice.

 

 

[Jacoby]

42 minutes ago, jaxcam02 said:

I will never buy another "high-flow" filter again. You ever look at the buildup of dust in the intake with a "high-flow" filter? I've had bad experiences with them allowing very fine particulates into the combustion chamber because their fibers are further apart than the paper filters.

That's why you oil them

[jaxcam02]

13 minutes ago, Jacoby said:

That's why you oil them

Yea I know, still lets particulates through. The oil itself is a whole other issue in of its own.

the potential pitfalls just aren't worth the 5 hp maximum gain from the change in filter.

[Nitrousbird]

5 hours ago, Shakeydeal said:

I don't give a whit about gas mileage. But a improved throttle response would be nice.

 

 

How would a CAI improve your throttle response? There are only three things an intake "could" do and many don't:

- Reduce the restriction of flow

- Lower IAT's by either insulating the charge pipe from engine heat or pulling from air more directly from outside the engine bay where it is cooler, resulting in more dense air 

- If a ram air setup, possibly forcing air into the motor at speed (which would also help the above).  There are very few true ram air setup out there and few are actually effective.

 

If you look at the CAI's for these trucks, none are insulated or pulling air from a different source. At best they are providing a less restricted path.  This may improve WOT power but throttle response is controlled by the ECU.  

[SquireSCA]

Installed the MIT last night.  Easy to install.  Not sure if it made a difference or not, I guess I will have to drive it around a bit and see how it feels.  I just went around the block real quick, but I am not sure that I felt a difference...

[AllterrainX440]

On 2/25/2019 at 4:49 PM, SquireSCA said:

2018 model with Z71 package, 2.25" level kit up front, 3" lift blocks on the rear, stock wheels with 33" Ridgegrapplers, front air damn removed(both black plastic ones), metal skid plate kit installed, straight pipes from the CATs back, and a SuperChips Flashpaq F5 with Performance map loaded, throttle sensitivity increased 20%.

Considering a CAI to add a little more throttle response and maybe a little power on top of the other mods.  Watched a ton of videos with dyno runs, and there do seem to be some CAI's that add 12-15hp and 15-20 TQ at the wheel...

Question is, which one?  Cold Air Inductions and Airaid seem to be the best, but others seem good as well.

What did you all go with?  I have a K&N high flow oiled(VERY lightly) air filter in there now...  Is there one particular CAI kit that is the "go to" for this 5.3L motor?  

Summit has a few in stock and I can get them quickly or even drive down there, but wondering what the consensus is for the best bang for the buck it.  I see the Airaid MIT, but I looked at the Black Bear Performance dyno thread and there really aren't any gains to be had there in the power department...

And while I was gonna use the BBP thread as my guide, I don't know which systems he actually used... Like the Volant or AFE... there are several models to choose from and I can't tell which ones he used...

Thanks!

If the summit your talking about going to is in Talmadge your probably close enought to local pickup my airraid mit for $100

[rah7777777]

3 hours ago, AllterrainX440 said:

If the summit your talking about going to is in Talmadge your probably close enought to local pickup my airraid mit for $100

How old is it? I might be interested if you are okay with shipping it to Texas