Funky rant on edmunds

[calgator73]

I found this from an owner of a custom trail boss on Edmunds

 

Don't drive in heavy rain

Ntac9299,05/23/2020

Custom Trail Boss 4dr Double Cab 4WD SB (4.3L 6cyl 6A)

Unfortunately this big beautiful truck, is that's all it is. I have owned one for three months and I drove to go to the store in heavy rain all sorts of water rushing everywhere. I'm thinking suckers no water will hurt me. I guess I was wrong. I just left my home and I guess if you hit a small amount of water at the correct angle it will create a vacuum and draw water from under the front of the truck. So here is my big beautiful truck broke down and small vehicles are passing me by. Btw GM says it's my fault??? I guess I missed the disclaimer that tells me not to drive during rain. I guess I don't understand stand what a Trail boss Z71 mean? Don't get wet? I am so upset all the money I saved for the down payment, the 4 months getting everything together and researching all options. I guess we need to know your vehicles safe water depth. However in the owners manual it advises you that you can travel through water up to the top of the hub. I didn't even get close to that depth. I'm guessing 4", it was rushing down the hill. But nothing any other vehicle had issues with. If you own one please demand them to fix it. My girlfriend has a 2018 Tahoe and traveled the same route to come pick me up. (Maybe 1/4 mile) I called the dealership and they explained how it creates the vacuum and it's all because of the way it's vented at the top. There's a spray hose logo saying not to spray in the vent. That's what causes a vacuum, the suction from the radiator drawing in air and the nice tight seal at the top causes the engine to work like a vacuum. Which would be great to get the coolest air but obviously not. I want GM to completely fix my truck and make sure it doesn't happen again. Maybe put in a snorkel. GM wants me to submit this through insurance and I don't think that's the right thing to do. These should all be recalled and fixed. GM should warranty this and thank me for showing them this obvious flaw. Btw the dealership did say to me it is because of the design at the top because it isn't on the Tahoe my girlfriend owns. So why when I go to buy a 4x4 vehicle with a built in lift kit do I even have to think about worrying about driving on paved roads. I wish I could have taken it out somewhere, but I guess you can't with this delicate flower. Trust me I am not just complaining, I was so proud of this truck. It (stupid I know) felt so good working so hard for it and then it failed. The next big bummer was when it broke down I had this sense of security thinking everything will be fine because I didn't mistreat the truck at all. Idk if anyone has been through a divorce and then go through the pains of rebuilding your life and try so hard and your hard work is just thrown away. What happened to American craftsmanship and quality. The funny thing is that we have been loyal Chevrolet owners for over 20 years and that's why we bought this truck with confidence due to our history of owning many Chevy vehicles but I guess I need to switch to another make and build trust with them. Sorry if wordy I just want people to know my full experience so far. I hope this helps someone. Thanks

[KARNUT]

So now GM builds trucks that funnel water to the cold air box? That news to me. If that happened he has bent rods. Spending my career working off road on ROWs I know trucks limits. It should take high water levels to get water in the engine.


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[Jav_eee]

Some guy on Facebook posted that his truck (at4 or trail boss, can’t remember) also ingested water while traveling through only 10” of it. He threw a rod.


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[TXGREEK]

And this is why I’m keeping what I’ve got, my lifted 2018 SLT 6.2 with 40k miles has been through just about everything and is my go to Hog Hunting machine. I’ve run it through deep mud, slick grassy hills and water high enough to easily stall a car and zero issues. It looks like a pavement princess but really is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Based on the horror stories I’ve been reading on these new trucks, This may just very well be my last GM product!

 

 

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[Wiggums]

I'm glad the drought has returned to California. I love love love driving through puddles!

[BigMick2023]

On 9/5/2020 at 7:00 AM, calgator73 said:

I found this from an owner of a custom trail boss on Edmunds

 

Don't drive in heavy rain

Ntac9299,05/23/2020

Custom Trail Boss 4dr Double Cab 4WD SB (4.3L 6cyl 6A)

Unfortunately this big beautiful truck, is that's all it is. I have owned one for three months and I drove to go to the store in heavy rain all sorts of water rushing everywhere. I'm thinking suckers no water will hurt me. I guess I was wrong. I just left my home and I guess if you hit a small amount of water at the correct angle it will create a vacuum and draw water from under the front of the truck. So here is my big beautiful truck broke down and small vehicles are passing me by. Btw GM says it's my fault??? I guess I missed the disclaimer that tells me not to drive during rain. I guess I don't understand stand what a Trail boss Z71 mean? Don't get wet? I am so upset all the money I saved for the down payment, the 4 months getting everything together and researching all options. I guess we need to know your vehicles safe water depth. However in the owners manual it advises you that you can travel through water up to the top of the hub. I didn't even get close to that depth. I'm guessing 4", it was rushing down the hill. But nothing any other vehicle had issues with. If you own one please demand them to fix it. My girlfriend has a 2018 Tahoe and traveled the same route to come pick me up. (Maybe 1/4 mile) I called the dealership and they explained how it creates the vacuum and it's all because of the way it's vented at the top. There's a spray hose logo saying not to spray in the vent. That's what causes a vacuum, the suction from the radiator drawing in air and the nice tight seal at the top causes the engine to work like a vacuum. Which would be great to get the coolest air but obviously not. I want GM to completely fix my truck and make sure it doesn't happen again. Maybe put in a snorkel. GM wants me to submit this through insurance and I don't think that's the right thing to do. These should all be recalled and fixed. GM should warranty this and thank me for showing them this obvious flaw. Btw the dealership did say to me it is because of the design at the top because it isn't on the Tahoe my girlfriend owns. So why when I go to buy a 4x4 vehicle with a built in lift kit do I even have to think about worrying about driving on paved roads. I wish I could have taken it out somewhere, but I guess you can't with this delicate flower. Trust me I am not just complaining, I was so proud of this truck. It (stupid I know) felt so good working so hard for it and then it failed. The next big bummer was when it broke down I had this sense of security thinking everything will be fine because I didn't mistreat the truck at all. Idk if anyone has been through a divorce and then go through the pains of rebuilding your life and try so hard and your hard work is just thrown away. What happened to American craftsmanship and quality. The funny thing is that we have been loyal Chevrolet owners for over 20 years and that's why we bought this truck with confidence due to our history of owning many Chevy vehicles but I guess I need to switch to another make and build trust with them. Sorry if wordy I just want people to know my full experience so far. I hope this helps someone. Thanks

 

4" of water into an intake that is over 4 feet high and under the hood......toasting the engine?

 

Something is really fishy here IMHO.....believe what you want, I say there is a lot of information omitted or embellished to make GM look bad and the owner look like he did nothing to cause the issue.  

I've seen people driving in downpours with road drains plugged and water higher than stupid people would even go through, but then here comes the idiot with his big 4x4 and blast through it as 60 MPH......stupid is as stupid does. 

 

You don't think GM tested this? They said no to warranty coverage for a reason. With over 1/2 Million Silverados sold per year if this was a real issue we'd of heard about it a ton by now. 

 

It was posted on the internet so it has to be true!  

Edited September 6, 2020 by BigMick2020

[TXGREEK]

As of today, about a mile out from the cabin, my truck takes me everywhere, hauls trailers, building materials out in the sticks, building a custom 10’ high, 8’x8’ deer/hog stand. I’ve gone through really high water before with zero issues, very reliable trucks so I do find it odd that a few inches of rain did what it did but that’s just one more thing to add onto the new trucks.

 

 

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[Jav_eee]

As of today, about a mile out from the cabin, my truck takes me everywhere, hauls trailers, building materials out in the sticks, building a custom 10’ high, 8’x8’ deer/hog stand. I’ve gone through really high water before with zero issues, very reliable trucks so I do find it odd that a few inches of rain did what it did but that’s just one more thing to add onto the new trucks.
 
 
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No offense but your truck is a different model than the one with the issues. Idk


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[Pyroman_28]

5 hours ago, BigMick2020 said:

 

4" of water into an intake that is over 4 feet high and under the hood......toasting the engine?

 

Something is really fishy here IMHO.....believe what you want, I say there is a lot of information omitted or embellished to make GM look bad and the owner look like he did nothing to cause the issue.  

I've seen people driving in downpours with road drains plugged and water higher than stupid people would even go through, but then here comes the idiot with his big 4x4 and blast through it as 60 MPH......stupid is as stupid does. 

 

You don't think GM tested this? They said no to warranty coverage for a reason. With over 1/2 Million Silverados sold per year if this was a real issue we'd of heard about it a ton by now. 

 

It was posted on the internet so it has to be true!  

I agree with you, there has got to be more to this story.  I think you're onto something with the speeding theory.  Four inches of water can do a lot of damage and get forced into a lot of places it normally wouldn't go when you hit it at 60mph.

[jlong1984]

Guess I better stop driving in the rain...

[gearheadesw]

We've all seen it, someone sinks their truck and is unwilling to take responsibility, blames truck design, thinks warranty should cover it.

[Ltz73]

He starts right off saying he thought “ suckers no water will hurt me”. I bet he was trying to go beast mode through some deep ass flooded streets and sprayed a wall of water in front of his truck. Enough of that hitting the intake long enough will absolutely ingest water. 

[calgator73]

I used to take my grand cherokee in water above bumper height frequently.  One of the techniques I practiced was just maintaining a steady speed to keep the bow wave in front which is supposed to keep the bay pretty dry.  I never had an issue.

Is it possible that the intake snorkel location, being located where it is, could cause a ton of water to hit that thing due to excessive speed or maybe bow wave pushing it there?

 

 

[TXGREEK]

Personally, I’d be on the phone with my insurance company, not on a truck forum asking for advice from a bunch of strangers.


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[Jav_eee]

Personally, I’d be on the phone with my insurance company, not on a truck forum asking for advice from a bunch of strangers.


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He wasn’t asking anything...


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