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I adore my truck. 21 elevation 5.3/10 speed. Zero issues with it. Ive always figured Id buy another right before I see no alternatives to having to buy some hybrid bs. With the way things are looking, Im betting its within 5 years. So that has me thinking, Ill likely be trying to stretch the life out of that truck as long as possible. Im an engine builder by trade, so im not afraid of digging into it 15-20 years from now. What does have me nervous is fuel supply. Where will we be? My thought is as much as Im not a diesel guy, maybe id be better off with the babymax long term. Diesel fuel is easier to make. Who knows, if they shut it ALL down maybe it could be converted to grease? Am I nuts for thinking this way?

Im trying to avoid owning an electric vehicle as long as physically possible. 

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It's Tim
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No worries mate... it was only a movie.  

KARNUT
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The people in charge in the last year are pushing EVs, man made climate change and a cure or end to Covid. How’s that working out? Are you better off? Think about it.

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Wall Street doesn't care who is in US presidential office. Big money makes money regardless.   House losing isn't in business long, case in point TRUMP Taj Mahal, NJ a great example.   

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4 minutes ago, TeamSaris said:

I adore my truck. 21 elevation 5.3/10 speed. Zero issues with it. Ive always figured Id buy another right before I see no alternatives to having to buy some hybrid bs. With the way things are looking, Im betting its within 5 years. So that has me thinking, Ill likely be trying to stretch the life out of that truck as long as possible. Im an engine builder by trade, so im not afraid of digging into it 15-20 years from now. What does have me nervous is fuel supply. Where will we be? My thought is as much as Im not a diesel guy, maybe id be better off with the babymax long term. Diesel fuel is easier to make. Who knows, if they shut it ALL down maybe it could be converted to grease? Am I nuts for thinking this way?

Im trying to avoid owning an electric vehicle as long as physically possible. 

They’ll wise up and slow down the conversion. Hybrids maybe. Full electric is a ways off if ever. 

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7 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

They’ll wise up and slow down the conversion. Hybrids maybe. Full electric is a ways off if ever. 

Maybe a hybrid diesel is a long term solution?

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Just my opinion, I don't believe EVs are ever going to completely replace our Dino vehicles. 

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The car companies talk like they will be all EV within a few years but it will be the consumer who dictates when and how many. I think it will be a long time, if ever, before gas is not in demand.

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It's Tim Senior Enthusiast

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Fossil fuels will suddenly become "unavailable". 😉

 

 

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Where did all the ammo & components go?

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learn to ride a horse, throw a spear, carry a dagger and collect ur wood in summer.. petroleum has empowered the weak and lazy. that;s about to change!

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I'm sure gas and diesel will be available for a long time, but I'm also certain the price will go up as time goes on so you may have to weigh operation and maintenance costs with the value of the vehicle at some point.

 

It sounds like you can handle doing your own maintenance and repair work, which is a big cost savings on labor, but parts availability could eventually become an issue if we're talking 20+ years of ownership. On the upside, it's a common vehicle and engine so you may have a decent used or aftermarket parts supply.

 

If you live in the rust belt, you may eventually start running out of metal to bolt new parts onto as road salt eats away at everything. My parents are starting to run into that with their '03 Avalanche; it runs great, but the frame and rocker panels are slowly turning into dust, and the gas tank almost fell out due to rust on the mounting straps. Anything made out of plastic or rubber also will dry out and start to disintegrate, like some of your your fuel system and suspension components, so that's something to monitor.

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1 hour ago, TeamSaris said:

Maybe a hybrid diesel is a long term solution?

Anything possible. With the pollution devices in modern diesels it seems other than long commute or working them. They don’t fair well otherwise. My mother still drives her 2000 one ton ford diesel. She drives back roads never over 60 at least 30 miles.  It gets mid 20 miles per gallon. Her other truck is my late father’s 98 Ram diesel. It does a little better. With all the latest technology with diesels there’re not doing much better and are less reliable. My brother who gets a new diesel every 200K miles a little over 2 years. Usually has do a delete and the check engine light with limp mode get worse with every new truck. His son went to gas and he’s thinking about it. Most fleet buyers I know are converting to gas. 

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Calm down. EV’s can’t stand alone unless propped up by government subsidies. People despise replacing golf cart batteries much less a EV battery. EV’a will be more popular and may have a place for city dwellers and short commutes but overall they don’t save the planet much more than what we have when you factor in exploration for minerals and disposal. My cell phone almost holds a charge for a day then there is that too. 😎

Enjoy your truck

 

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Gasoline and gas powered vehicles will continue to be available until after the capabilities/ availability/ price of EV's make them the most attractive option on the market.

 

In 10-20-ish years I'm guessing we'll all be daily driving an EV, but still able to cruise in our ICE toys on the weekends.

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Don't worry, gasoline isn't going anywhere. And diesel definitely isn't going anywhere.

I don't buy EV technology longterm or even as a suitable "environmental replacement" at all.

 

People don't talk about how the lithium and cobalt their mining to make these batteries is also not a renewable resource, and has pretty disastrous primary environmental impacts, more so than crude oil by a lot.

 

This video does a great job at explaining it. 

 

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EV is going to catch on eventually, I seen the TFL video of the electric Silverado and it is impressive. But like other stated EV are far from being ready. Hopefully the engineers will figure out the better range and better charging capabilities. If it can tow my camper for 200 miles between charge and charges up in 20min top then I would make peace with it. EV in general have less moving parts, batteries can be recycled, less maintenance cost due to no oil changes etc

They are good for the environment so you will make environment cautious folks happy (I throw back 22" plus walleyes to keep producing) so there I also save the environment in my own way. Is the gas or diesel going away the answer not any time soon. Do I like the V8 rumble yeah but I am getting older and enjoy my quiet comfortable truck more.

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6 hours ago, Moend said:

EV ...They are good for the environment 

 

NOT.  More pollutants are generated to acquire the raw materials and re-charging them emits more pollutants into the atmosphere than a car.  Meaning, the modern internal combustion engine emits fewer emissions than an oil or coal fired power plant to re-charge an EV.

 

Big Apple family members loved their little hybrids until it was time to replace the batteries.  Dumped them for gas powered cars right quick.  So much for their "mother earth"!  LOL

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