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Should GM Maintain the Column Shifter on Next Gen?

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sk Senior Enthusiast

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On 5/15/2020 at 1:00 PM, Likarok said:

Have you all looked at the new 2021 Tahoe/Suburban. They have push button shifter. Christ when I was a kid my dad had a 1956 Dodge Royal Lancer with a push button automatic. That is bizarre! 

So does the mid-engined C8 Corvette.  Doesn't mean it's a good idea ....

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Britt Lifsey
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Column...and keep the keyed ignition.

Penguin VII
Penguin VII

I hate the floor shifter. I was dead set on a new F-150 till I went to the lot and every truck I saw had a floor shifter. I drove a GM truck only cuz a buddy of mine was raving about his and saw they

RyanbabZ71
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yes column shifter

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I vote to also keep the column shifter. It's a truck and although the column shifter to some is old school, it does have practicality to it while maintaining a truck status IMO. I find the dial shifter on Ram kinda dorky and the floor shifter on Ford just takes up valuable storage space. Column shifters are out of the way and easy to reach....I wouldn't mess with it. 

 

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Colossus Senior Enthusiast

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4 hours ago, Dano89 said:

I vote to also keep the column shifter. It's a truck and although the column shifter to some is old school, it does have practicality to it while maintaining a truck status IMO. I find the dial shifter on Ram kinda dorky and the floor shifter on Ford just takes up valuable storage space. Column shifters are out of the way and easy to reach....I wouldn't mess with it. 

 

Dan

Amen.  Well said.  As-is, the column shifter is pretty much out of the way and is not impractical. 

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I vote to also keep the column shifter. It's a truck and although the column shifter to some is old school, it does have practicality to it while maintaining a truck status IMO. I find the dial shifter on Ram kinda dorky and the floor shifter on Ford just takes up valuable storage space. Column shifters are out of the way and easy to reach....I wouldn't mess with it. 
 
Dan

They aren’t doing any of these. Like mentioned above they are moving towards buttons. It wouldn’t surprise me if by the end of the T1 it was an option and standard on the new body style in a couple years.
redwngr Senior Enthusiast

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On 5/12/2020 at 8:54 AM, Ferrari Eater said:

I feel like push button start and button shifters would be less reliable.

Today's vehicles, the key just sends a signal to the computer, same as what the 'start' button does.

 

Just 'bump' the key and let it do it's thing.

 

That said, I'm a fan of key start and column shift. 

Keyless makes it easy to get out and leave one running, or drive away after dropping someone off and the fob is in possession of the other person, or...

Sierra89 Enthusiast

Sierra89

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Hard yes they should keep it. Push button start is OK with me, but no need to replace the column shifter. I wouldn't be too upset with a console lever, but thats it. Absolutely no knobs or buttons.

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Please keep the steering column shifter in the Silverado’s. It’s in a perfect position in the column, as it doesn’t take up space and convenient shifting while trailering. 

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Chevrolet1 Enthusiast

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Personally I prefer the look and feel of a floor shifter. Column shifters provide for more space on the console, but just look and feel so outdated.

And after experiencing push button start and the ability to unlock by simply touching a button or grabbing the exterior door handle, I don't want keys anymore.

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Column and key, however if they did change the shifter i would rather it be in the center console where my right hand ends up that way i always have my hand on it. 

lryfer Enthusiast

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For sure keep the keyed ignition and column shifter.  As mentioned previously i like the front center console with buckets.

JimMLINY Enthusiast

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Column and key for me, always and forever.  So much more usable space with gearshift on column.  Not much of a push button transmission fan for the 60s Rambler or Chryslers either.

Likarok Senior Enthusiast

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As opposed to the push buttons I would prefer a console shift. But my preference would still be a column shift. 

I am afraid though that we are getting the push buttons. 

 

Just like my dads 56 Dodge Royal Lancer and his 65 Dodge Polara. 

Imcrazy Senior Enthusiast

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I think work trucks and customs will have column shift, all others will be same as the current Tahoe / Burb


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