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The DL3 harness will be of no good. The DIY Kit would be used in the your factory DL8 harnesses.


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Ok,thanks. How do I go about to order a harness from you?

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Hello all!   New to this forum however I have been snooping here for insight the last week or so and it has provided a wealth of information!   I have a 2019 LTZ duramax with the DL3 mirrors and seat memory.   I ordered tow mirrors and harnesses the dealer suggested after they informed me that power fold was not an option.  Was just about to have them installed because they tell me I need a special code that come with the mirrors for a BCN calibration??   Anyhow I cancelled the install after reading all of this to further investigate.  I have the 84290965 and the 84290982 Gm harnesses In hand and wanted to order the DQS mirrors from GM parts authority.   After speaking with Robert from GM parts authority, who gave me a ton of insight he suggested looking at this thread and reaching out to help me wrap my head around tearing door panels off of a 2 week old truck and installing myself what the dealers tell me is impossible!!!  

 

Sorry for the long back story. 

QUESTION:  Are these the right harnesses for the DQS mirrors and will I be able to gain all of the functionality back if I get the DQS tow mirrors? Also, will I need to go to the dealer to flash the Seat memory module?  My fear is, I do this on my own after they advise me not to and add mirrors they say won’t work and the final step will be asking them to flash the truck (something they keep telling me won’t work anyway).  

 

Thank you all in advance and also thank you to pgamboa for all of the videos, research and lengthy detailed answers to so many similar questions/scenarios!

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Hello all!   New to this forum however I have been snooping here for insight the last week or so and it has provided a wealth of information!   I have a 2019 LTZ duramax with the DL3 mirrors and seat memory.   I ordered tow mirrors and harnesses the dealer suggested after they informed me that power fold was not an option.  Was just about to have them installed because they tell me I need a special code that come with the mirrors for a BCN calibration??   Anyhow I cancelled the install after reading all of this to further investigate.  I have the 84290965 and the 84290982 Gm harnesses In hand and wanted to order the DQS mirrors from GM parts authority.   After speaking with Robert from GM parts authority, who gave me a ton of insight he suggested looking at this thread and reaching out to help me wrap my head around tearing door panels off of a 2 week old truck and installing myself what the dealers tell me is impossible!!!  
 
Sorry for the long back story. 
QUESTION:  Are these the right harnesses for the DQS mirrors and will I be able to gain all of the functionality back if I get the DQS tow mirrors? Also, will I need to go to the dealer to flash the Seat memory module?  My fear is, I do this on my own after they advise me not to and add mirrors they say won’t work and the final step will be asking them to flash the truck (something they keep telling me won’t work anyway).  
 
Thank you all in advance and also thank you to pgamboa for all of the videos, research and lengthy detailed answers to so many similar questions/scenarios!

Yes - Those should be the right harnesses. DQS Mirrors will retain power fold, memory.

You won’t need a flash or calibration of any kind.

The only reason you need to take the truck to the dealer is to show them that it CAN be done :)


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Awesome!   I will order mirrors now!   And will definitely be going to the dealer to chat.   I cannot believe how complicated they make this process sound!   Not to mention $560.00 install with ME bringing the mirrors and harnesses! And losing functionality!    

 

Thank you so much for the help.   I will post when mirrors are here and on the truck!

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Another satisfied DL8 to DL3 customer. Harnesses worked like a charm. Thanks Phil!!

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The mirrors i ordered came with an extra wiring harness that has 4 wires coming from it, these wires do not have a connector on the end to plug into any wiring harness. could i just run these wires to the pre-existing blinker wire and connect them together? same with the cargo lamp and the running lights. 

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The mirrors i ordered came with an extra wiring harness that has 4 wires coming from it, these wires do not have a connector on the end to plug into any wiring harness. could i just run these wires to the pre-existing blinker wire and connect them together? same with the cargo lamp and the running lights. 

Share a pic of these?


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i don’t currently have a picture of these wires and i’m not near them at the moment. but the wires are connected to a smaller wiring harness and look like they are meant to be tapered to another wire. The extra connector connects to the smaller harness that i circled in the picture and 4 different colored wires run from it. 

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Do the 4 wires land onto the main black connector of the mirror?


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On 2/22/2017 at 2:55 PM, pgamboa said:

All,

 

Due to the overwhelming interest in folks wanting to upgrade their mirrors, I wanted to start this thread, hopefully, with all the information pertaining to the process of upgrading your mirrors, the different mirror types, the GM supported upgrade path, the non-GM supported upgrade path, what all is involved, and any known issues.

 

I receive about 15-20 PMs daily around this upgrade. I will try to respond to all as I am able to. Please read through this entire 1st post in its entirety as I hope it answers all your questions. I also hope that this thread is your “one-stop shop” for all questions surrounding this upgrade.

 

I have spent MANY months (since June 2016) trying to understand these mirrors and what all is involved to make the upgrade successful. Like many of you reading this thread, you have probably spent countless hours researching online, reading threads upon threads, and watching YouTube videos for some info and guidance. For those that have tried this upgrade on your own, you have probably ended up with the same results of something not working correctly, which ultimately landed you back here on the Forum.

 

I have helped numerous members here achieve the same upgrade desires with success. This started out with me wanting to upgrade the standard DL8 Mirrors on my 2016 Silverado, 1500, LT, CCSB, 5.3L Gas Truck. I have helped members with Standard DL8 Mirrors upgrade to DL3 Mirrors as well as members wanting to upgrade to Towing Mirrors.

 

So, let’s get started…

 

Mirror Types:

 

DE2 Mirrors - These are the basic mirrors found on W/T Trucks. They do not have power anything. They are manual adjust, manual fold, etc.

 

DL8 Mirrors – These are the most common mirrors found on LT/SLE trucks and are the next level from DE2 Mirrors. DL8 Mirrors are Heated, Power Adjust, and Manual Fold. If your truck has 1LT/2LT options, this will most likely be the same mirror.

 

DL3 Mirrors – These are mirrors are the “Premium” version to the DL8 Mirrors that most folks are wanting to upgrade to. These mirrors are typically found on your higher trim LTZ/High Country and SLT/Denali trucks. These mirrors are: Heated, Power Adjust, Power Fold, Turn Signal, Puddle Lamps, and Auto Dim (Driver’s Side).

 

Towing Mirrors – These mirrors are the larger mirrors designed to help with towing. These mirrors can be found as options in some 2500/3500 Heavy Duty Trucks. They come in (2) main flavors.

 

  • DPN – These are Manually Folding, Manually Extending, Heated, Turn Signal, Cargo (also referred to as Courtesy Lamps), and Clearance Lamps (also referred to as Park/Running Lamps)
  • DQS – These are essentially the same as DPN except they are Power Folding and supports Mirror Memory if your truck has this feature.

Aftermarket Towing Mirrors – There are TONS of aftermarket options out there. The result should be the same (for the most part) on the upgrade. The way that manufactures “pin” their connectors, they typically pin them the same as the GM - OEM ones. Watch out for any Manufacture that says they have the “option” of adding a separate harness or connector for added functionality. If it’s not already in the connector, I would stay away from those or contact me for mirror connector customization.

 

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Note: RPO Code - K40 Option (Exhaust Brake) for Diesel Trucks. If you have a Diesel Truck, you will NEED to get the appropriate DL3, DPN, DQS Mirror WITH the K40 Option. This is basically a temperature sensor on the passenger side mirror. Without this, you will get a Check Engine Light (CEL) error come on with an “Ambient Temperature” message on your DIC (Driver Information Center). This is NOT an issue with Gas Trucks. You can install a passenger mirror with the temperature sensor on a gas truck with no issue (I am using a K40 optioned DL3 Mirror on my truck).

 

Here is a video I put together on the entire process. This video covers the following:

 

  • Removing the Door Panel
  • Removing the Door Harness
  • Installing the Power Fold Switch

   

 

[/url]GM Supported Upgrade Path – Upgrade DL8 or DL3 Mirrors to Towing Mirrors:

 

 

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If you do need the RZY Harness, I created a "How To" Installation Video here:

 

 

Here is an additional video showing the detail of the RZY Harness.

 

 

Non-GM Supported Upgrade Path – Upgrade DL8 Mirrors to DL3 Mirrors.

 

 

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2014 – Known Issue:

 

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WT/LS – Trim Owners:

 

Custom Plug and Play Harnesses – $285 Shipped to (50 US States - for Canada, please add $47.95)

 

Custom DIY Kit – $65 Shipped (Ships First Class Mail with Tracking - for Canada, please add $10)

 

af5f862900deda6d40a4ccab4ae5b89e.jpg 

I will also provide you with ANY information regarding this upgrade even you don't buy from me. My goal is to help everyone achieve their mirror upgrade goals.

 

If you decide to move forward with ANY purchase or if you have additional questions, please let me know. It is helpful to know all the details of your truck to provide the best possible solution.

 

For example:

 

2016 Silverado, LT, 1500, Crew Cab, 5.3L Gas.

 

Thanks, everyone! Hope to help as many people as I can to achieve this upgrade!

 

Please enjoy this Time Lapse Video to get an idea of what is involved with the customization of the harness. Each set takes about 1hr to modify, plus another hour test. So a completed set is roughly 3 hrs to build and test.

 

 

How to remove the DL8/DL3 Mirror Caps.

 

 

How to remove Tow Mirror Caps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I replace de dl3 harness,dl3 mirrors  and switch on my Silverado 2017 lt ,almost everything worked, mirrors are not folding when i press the folding button, also passenger side mirror won't  adjust at all, any help will be appreciated

Posted
23 minutes ago, SASK_RT said:

The DL3 Harnesses are pinned different than the DL8's.  You will need to purchase a modified harness or DIY kit from @pgamboa.  I used the set of DL# harnesses I got with my mirrors and harvested the wires/connections I needed. 

 

Yes, but i already install de new dl3 harness with the new dl3 mirrors, some functions are missing.

23 minutes ago, SASK_RT said:

The DL3 Harnesses are pinned different than the DL8's.  You will need to purchase a modified harness or DIY kit from @pgamboa.  I used the set of DL# harnesses I got with my mirrors and harvested the wires/connections I needed. 

 

 

On 2/22/2017 at 2:55 PM, pgamboa said:

All,

 

Due to the overwhelming interest in folks wanting to upgrade their mirrors, I wanted to start this thread, hopefully, with all the information pertaining to the process of upgrading your mirrors, the different mirror types, the GM supported upgrade path, the non-GM supported upgrade path, what all is involved, and any known issues.

 

I receive about 15-20 PMs daily around this upgrade. I will try to respond to all as I am able to. Please read through this entire 1st post in its entirety as I hope it answers all your questions. I also hope that this thread is your “one-stop shop” for all questions surrounding this upgrade.

 

I have spent MANY months (since June 2016) trying to understand these mirrors and what all is involved to make the upgrade successful. Like many of you reading this thread, you have probably spent countless hours researching online, reading threads upon threads, and watching YouTube videos for some info and guidance. For those that have tried this upgrade on your own, you have probably ended up with the same results of something not working correctly, which ultimately landed you back here on the Forum.

 

I have helped numerous members here achieve the same upgrade desires with success. This started out with me wanting to upgrade the standard DL8 Mirrors on my 2016 Silverado, 1500, LT, CCSB, 5.3L Gas Truck. I have helped members with Standard DL8 Mirrors upgrade to DL3 Mirrors as well as members wanting to upgrade to Towing Mirrors.

 

So, let’s get started…

 

Mirror Types:

 

DE2 Mirrors - These are the basic mirrors found on W/T Trucks. They do not have power anything. They are manual adjust, manual fold, etc.

 

DL8 Mirrors – These are the most common mirrors found on LT/SLE trucks and are the next level from DE2 Mirrors. DL8 Mirrors are Heated, Power Adjust, and Manual Fold. If your truck has 1LT/2LT options, this will most likely be the same mirror.

 

DL3 Mirrors – These are mirrors are the “Premium” version to the DL8 Mirrors that most folks are wanting to upgrade to. These mirrors are typically found on your higher trim LTZ/High Country and SLT/Denali trucks. These mirrors are: Heated, Power Adjust, Power Fold, Turn Signal, Puddle Lamps, and Auto Dim (Driver’s Side).

 

Towing Mirrors – These mirrors are the larger mirrors designed to help with towing. These mirrors can be found as options in some 2500/3500 Heavy Duty Trucks. They come in (2) main flavors.

 

  • DPN – These are Manually Folding, Manually Extending, Heated, Turn Signal, Cargo (also referred to as Courtesy Lamps), and Clearance Lamps (also referred to as Park/Running Lamps)
  • DQS – These are essentially the same as DPN except they are Power Folding and supports Mirror Memory if your truck has this feature.

Aftermarket Towing Mirrors – There are TONS of aftermarket options out there. The result should be the same (for the most part) on the upgrade. The way that manufactures “pin” their connectors, they typically pin them the same as the GM - OEM ones. Watch out for any Manufacture that says they have the “option” of adding a separate harness or connector for added functionality. If it’s not already in the connector, I would stay away from those or contact me for mirror connector customization.

 

[/url]

Note: RPO Code - K40 Option (Exhaust Brake) for Diesel Trucks. If you have a Diesel Truck, you will NEED to get the appropriate DL3, DPN, DQS Mirror WITH the K40 Option. This is basically a temperature sensor on the passenger side mirror. Without this, you will get a Check Engine Light (CEL) error come on with an “Ambient Temperature” message on your DIC (Driver Information Center). This is NOT an issue with Gas Trucks. You can install a passenger mirror with the temperature sensor on a gas truck with no issue (I am using a K40 optioned DL3 Mirror on my truck).

 

Here is a video I put together on the entire process. This video covers the following:

 

  • Removing the Door Panel
  • Removing the Door Harness
  • Installing the Power Fold Switch

   

 

[/url]GM Supported Upgrade Path – Upgrade DL8 or DL3 Mirrors to Towing Mirrors:

 

 

49e9b5ec5facc57dcab1f391723b41bb.jpg 

If you do need the RZY Harness, I created a "How To" Installation Video here:

 

 

Here is an additional video showing the detail of the RZY Harness.

 

 

Non-GM Supported Upgrade Path – Upgrade DL8 Mirrors to DL3 Mirrors.

 

 

926c72a521d7707fa65bffdce883ed4b.jpg  

 

 

   

 

2014 – Known Issue:

 

0ccd9615b9d457f7a7151b42a689ba13.jpg 

WT/LS – Trim Owners:

 

Custom Plug and Play Harnesses – $285 Shipped to (50 US States - for Canada, please add $47.95)

 

Custom DIY Kit – $65 Shipped (Ships First Class Mail with Tracking - for Canada, please add $10)

 

af5f862900deda6d40a4ccab4ae5b89e.jpg 

I will also provide you with ANY information regarding this upgrade even you don't buy from me. My goal is to help everyone achieve their mirror upgrade goals.

 

If you decide to move forward with ANY purchase or if you have additional questions, please let me know. It is helpful to know all the details of your truck to provide the best possible solution.

 

For example:

 

2016 Silverado, LT, 1500, Crew Cab, 5.3L Gas.

 

Thanks, everyone! Hope to help as many people as I can to achieve this upgrade!

 

Please enjoy this Time Lapse Video to get an idea of what is involved with the customization of the harness. Each set takes about 1hr to modify, plus another hour test. So a completed set is roughly 3 hrs to build and test.

 

 

How to remove the DL8/DL3 Mirror Caps.

 

 

How to remove Tow Mirror Caps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I replace de dl3 harness,dl3 mirrors  and switch on my Silverado 2017 lt ,almost everything worked, mirrors are not folding when i press the folding button, also passenger side mirror won't  adjust at all, any help will be appreciated

Posted
21 minutes ago, ycam4 said:

Yes, but i already install de new dl3 harness with the new dl3 mirrors, some functions are missing.

The functions are missing because you used the dl3 harness. To get the mirrors to function properly, you will need to replace the dl3 harness with a modified dl8 harness (or modify your old dl8 harness). 

 

All the details are in your previous post.  

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Posted
17 minutes ago, SASK_RT said:

The functions are missing because you used the dl3 harness. To get the mirrors to function properly, you will need to replace the dl3 harness with a modified dl8 harness (or modify your old dl8 harness). 

 

All the details are in your previous post.  

What if i replace de door panel harness dl8 with the dl3?

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Posted
12 minutes ago, ycam4 said:

What if i replace de door panel harness dl8 with the dl3?

The dl3 harness will not work. The connectors are wired differently. To get the functions the only way is to use a modified dl8 harness and get rid of the dl3 door harnesses.

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