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KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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Sound quality is in the ears of the beholder, I went with muffler delete sound was just fine. The resonator is a muffler more akin to a glass pack. The cats deaden the sound too. People want to spend lots of money on mail order exhaust fine, I was happy with my 40$ delete.

 

 

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Abearclaw Enthusiast

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Video explaining how the Flowmaster design improves the sound - and increases exhaust velocity:

 

 

Yeah no doubt I get it, it's a performance muffler and all but I'm just saying it's not the best by any means. I can post a video of why flow master isn't as performance oriented as magnaflow or Corsa or Borla etc. You posted a flow master video. If course they're selling their product. That's like telling me to watch MSNBC saying see liberals aren't that bad. Haha yeah right. The fact that a magnaflow is straight thru already should tell you that it out flows a flow master. Then the fact that it's perforated should tell you that it has a lower friction coefficient through the straight pipe meaning it will even out flow a straight pipe. But yes a flow master is still better than stock. Got it.

 

 

***also it should be noted that I'm talking about flow masters chambered mufflers like the 40 series [emoji1303]

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Krusty Enthusiast

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Yeah no doubt I get it, it's a performance muffler and all but I'm just saying it's not the best by any means. I can post a video of why flow master isn't as performance oriented as magnaflow or Corsa or Borla etc. You posted a flow master video. If course they're selling their product. That's like telling me to watch MSNBC saying see liberals aren't that bad. Haha yeah right. The fact that a magnaflow is straight thru already should tell you that it out flows a flow master. Then the fact that it's perforated should tell you that it has a lower friction coefficient through the straight pipe meaning it will even out flow a straight pipe. But yes a flow master is still better than stock. Got it.

 

 

***also it should be noted that I'm talking about flow masters chambered mufflers like the 40 series [emoji1303]

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Even the GM Borla with flapper would have been too loud for me IMHO. Really happy with my choice. Those that want less restriction and more noise certainly have many choices, including the Flowmaster Super 10 and everything in between. There are a couple guys on here running the Super 10.

 

What would really be telling performance wise - regardless of noise level - would be current dyno tests done on specific mufflers hooked to a 6.2L GM truck engine..........

 

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Even the GM Borla with flapper would have been too loud for me IMHO. Really happy with my choice. Those that want less restriction and more noise certainly have many choices, including the Flowmaster Super 10 and everything in between. There are a couple guys on here running the Super 10.

 

What would really be telling performance wise - regardless of noise level - would be current dyno tests done on specific mufflers hooked to a 6.2L GM truck engine..........

 

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While they have probably been done, there have been dyno and drag runs comparing Flowmasters to other exhausts for various manufacturers, and Flowmasters are usually far down the totem pole for power compared to other aftermarket exhausts.

 

If getting better REAL fuel economy (regardless of the truck computer's algorithm) were as easy as a new muffler, especially one that offered no appreciable increase in sound inside the truck, auto manufacturers would be all over it in a heartbeat, considering all they do to eek out every last mpg or less. Truth is, the vehicles are tuned to maximize fuel usage from the factory, and anything done that can somehow better than comes at the expense of something else: comfort, longevity, etc.

Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

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Agree Krusty plenty of choices exhaust wise from quiet to too loud to in between the two. Also there are cheapo repo to priced like a virgin at a bordello exhaust options. Run what you like and share the experience with others. It would be nice for somebody to dyno test different mufflers to see if there are any gains hp wise. IIRC on an older 6.2 Escalade Magnaflow 12909 showed an 11 hp gain outdoing even Corsa's 3 inch cat back. YMMV

Abearclaw Enthusiast

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Even the GM Borla with flapper would have been too loud for me IMHO. Really happy with my choice. Those that want less restriction and more noise certainly have many choices, including the Flowmaster Super 10 and everything in between. There are a couple guys on here running the Super 10.

 

What would really be telling performance wise - regardless of noise level - would be current dyno tests done on specific mufflers hooked to a 6.2L GM truck engine..........

 

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Yes! I was thinking the same thing. They have intake tests. Maybe some no bs exhaust numbers would be an interesting ones as well [emoji848]

 

 

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Lgetz Senior Enthusiast

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Yes! I was thinking the same thing. They have intake tests. Maybe some no bs exhaust numbers would be an interesting ones as well [emoji848]

 

 

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No kidding but then people would complain about biased testing, flawed testing methods, bogus results, etc...

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No kidding but then people would complain about biased testing, flawed testing methods, bogus results, etc...

Yep and the world continues to spin lol [emoji23]

 

 

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I love my $42 muffler delete, and the roughly $1300 I saved on the gm borla exhaust went nicely into my procharger saving account lol.

Abearclaw Enthusiast

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I love my $42 muffler delete, and the roughly $1300 I saved on the gm borla exhaust went nicely into my procharger saving account lol.

Without hijacking this thread can you tell me why you're getting a pro charger vs a Whipple or SLP? PM me if you want. I'm looking at pro charger as well

 

 

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Powerlines Enthusiast

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Couldn't a guy just buy the same "touring" muffler that's used with the GM/Borla setup and have a local shop finish out the rest for a lot cheaper? Or is it only sold with the system?

Krusty Enthusiast

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Couldn't a guy just buy the same "touring" muffler that's used with the GM/Borla setup and have a local shop finish out the rest for a lot cheaper? Or is it only sold with the system?

 

The muffler on the GM Borla is different than the Borla/Borla. Per Borla customer service.......

Luster Senior Enthusiast

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I'll bet, never in his wildest dreams, did the Original Poster think this thread would go this far. :lol:

Powerlines Enthusiast

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The muffler on the GM Borla is different than the Borla/Borla. Per Borla customer service.......

Gotcha thanks. There's gotta be something very similar....

Krusty Enthusiast

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I'll bet, never in his wildest dreams, did the Original Poster think this thread would go this far. :lol:

 

From his meager 10 posts grows this 100+ post behemoth of a thread................

 

 

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