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This is federal law and all cars will have it by 2018 I believe. My 2012 focus had it and never had an issue.

Where did you hear that his is federal law? I'm curious to see if their is any explanation for it from the government.

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Camaro45th
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if you shake it more than twice, your playing with it.

kstruckcountry
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You can buy a cap to plug it. Don't know why anyone thought this was a good idea.   Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

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Emissions. A loose gas cap pollutes more. The less human involvement, the less that'll go wrong. Not saying I agree with that but I know that's their logic. Ford has used this system for several years

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I don't know the reason, but I guess I can't think that there have been enough people coming to the dealer with a loose gas cap to make GM switch to capless. Maybe driving without a cap, but I would think that would be people with a POS that don't care about it doing that.

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Where did you hear that his is federal law? I'm curious to see if their is any explanation for it from the government.

 

 

I can't find anything hinting at this being required but believe it or not, all these regulations do have explanations, they just tend to be a bit of a reach at times. Ford has been using this since like 2008 so I feel like it's reasonably proven tech by now.

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I can't find anything hinting at this being required but believe it or not, all these regulations do have explanations, they just tend to be a bit of a reach at times. Ford has been using this since like 2008 so I feel like it's reasonably proven tech by now.

Like the above member posted about his car has a flap to keep water out, I'm guessing there is a hole somewhere to allow the water to drain out so it doesn't just drop in nice you go to fuel up.

 

Idk how reliable those spring loaded flaps are. Would be a PITA to fix if it ever broke

kstruckcountry Senior Enthusiast

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Put one on a bale bed work truck and see how it works in a year... AFM has been in use on the GM's since 2007 and I don't want that feature either, haha.

 

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I can't find anything hinting at this being required but believe it or not, all these regulations do have explanations, they just tend to be a bit of a reach at times. Ford has been using this since like 2008 so I feel like it's reasonably proven tech by now.

I can't remember where I heard/read it but it was a couple years ago. I can't find anything on it now either so maybe it was rescinded.

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It's a Ford thing. My brother drives Fords and his has been like for the last few trucks he's had. I never figured out why is was supposed to be a good idea but I'd just chalk it up to the "Ford Mentality of One Upsmanship" and move on but now us GM guys are stuck with it!!!

 

You can buy a cap to plug it. Don't know why anyone thought this was a good idea.

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My wife's 2012 Charger has it, and for the first year or so, I was concerned about debris or water. Four years later, not a single problem with it, and its quite handy to only have to push the button to open it and then close the door and be on your way. It can be done right and not have a single problem. Although, at this point, I don't trust GM to be able to do it right, but to do it cheap.

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Well, with all the nanny state nonsense that keeps coming out, it is becoming very clear that I will not be buying any new pickup. My 2015 will have to be my last. Will have to make a condition to any dealer before a sale... if it has a capless system, remove it and make a capped system or no sale. If I ever am so desperate in need of a new vehicle and there is no way around not having a capless system, will have to find a work around. I understand some liking this sort of thing, but I have to travel several miles of dusty gravel roads to and from the house just to get to the nearest highway. Already lot of dirt builds up in the fuel fill area. Some stupid capless nonsense is sure to let in some dirt and debris. We need to have OEM's that actually make pickups and not luxury cars trying to imitate pickups.

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Well, with all the nanny state nonsense that keeps coming out, it is becoming very clear that I will not be buying any new pickup. My 2015 will have to be my last. Will have to make a condition to any dealer before a sale... if it has a capless system, remove it and make a capped system or no sale. If I ever am so desperate in need of a new vehicle and there is no way around not having a capless system, will have to find a work around. I understand some liking this sort of thing, but I have to travel several miles of dusty gravel roads to and from the house just to get to the nearest highway. Already lot of dirt builds up in the fuel fill area. Some stupid capless nonsense is sure to let in some dirt and debris. We need to have OEM's that actually make pickups and not luxury cars trying to imitate pickups.

 

I know countless people with newer Fords who have never had an issue, same with Chrysler and their capless system. The system is proven, no dealer will "convert" a truck for you either. It's an emissions component.

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Then I guess I would convert it. Still, I am pretty sure that the outcry from the farmer/rancher/construction crowd ought to help. But then, the OEM's generally have forgotten that segment of their base. It shows in their pickup design and offerings. At least I won't have to worry about it for a while. By then, the long term results will be known.

 

The system is "proven"? By whom and in what way? Has it been proven to withstand have dirt caked on it and not letting any of that thru when a person fills up their tank? Kinda one of those torture test examples that are normal out here in fly over country. Well considering that no one in my area, that is, all the farmer/rancher types that live and work around me including myself, have even seen one of these capless systems in our pickups, let alone experienced how "proven" it is. Just because it has worked out ok for the city crowd doesn't mean that it is "proven". We have all seen how "proven" some of the things the OEM's have done actually worked out over time.

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