2019 6.2 bad engine.....

[MaverickZ71]

3 hours ago, TRKLGND said:

The same time they went to 5w20 oil.  Extra capacity is needed for proper cooling of the thinner oils.  It's not a giant conspiracy.  Sorry to disappoint you.

I have had 7 Chevy trucks, 1500's, 2500's, gas and diesel is the last 12 years.  Never more than a DEF level reset, squeak in the dash or a TCM flash.  No oil consumption issues on the '12 or '14 5.3's with AFM.  

No "chevy shake".  No 8 speed trans problems.  Just good dependable trucks.

Proper cooling of thinner oils.  On trucks with oil coolers??  Whatever.  Not what I was told by the Service Tech at my Chevy dealer, and I figure he oughta know.  He works on them all day.  He drives a Honda car, by the way.  Guess that should tell us all something.  

 

Like they say, the sun shines on a dog's ass every now and then.  Apparently you're so damned charmed, you'd better go buy some lottery tickets, quick.  

[TRKLGND]

1 hour ago, MaverickZ71 said:

Proper cooling of thinner oils.  On trucks with oil coolers??  Whatever.  Not what I was told by the Service Tech at my Chevy dealer, and I figure he oughta know.  He works on them all day.  He drives a Honda car, by the way.  Guess that should tell us all something.  

 

Like they say, the sun shines on a dog's ass every now and then.  Apparently you're so damned charmed, you'd better go buy some lottery tickets, quick.  

Yes, extra oil capacity on trucks with oil coolers.  I am assuming you think it was to mask oil consumption issues.   

What exactly were you told by the service tech.  You never did say. 

So what if he drives a Honda.  Time for you to dump your 1500 and get a Ridgeline I guess.  They must be better.  The Chevy service tech drives one.

The service manager at the Buick dealership I worked for drove nothing but Ford trucks.  Said he'd drive a Buick if they made a truck.

Perhaps I have been a little lucky.  I'd like to think that GM makes a damn fine truck to go along with a bit of luck.  It doesn't hurt to be positive.  Try it.  You might like it.

[Cody1256]

Not to say gm is a bad vehicle. All We are more or less upset about is the stand behind your product service we are not getting. 
 

We actually talked to a guy with a. Colorado that got a new truck in a similar situation to ours. His was rebuilt and sold at discounted price. 
 

 

 

anyways!!!! Update! 
 

gm has returned our call! After a week lol. 
We were told not to let them take the engine apart (as the dealer wanted to do). And to fax over some copy’s of all the paperwork and service records. they agreed that the services that we have received are almost as “prompt” and “understanding” that we should have been given. We again expressed our displeasure with the current truck and will be in a conference call between both dealers and a gm senior advisor. (Whatever that means) 

 

[JimCost2014]

13 hours ago, Cody1256 said:

Not to say gm is a bad vehicle. All We are more or less upset about is the stand behind your product service we are not getting. 
 

We actually talked to a guy with a. Colorado that got a new truck in a similar situation to ours. His was rebuilt and sold at discounted price. 
 

 

 

anyways!!!! Update! 
 

gm has returned our call! After a week lol. 
We were told not to let them take the engine apart (as the dealer wanted to do). And to fax over some copy’s of all the paperwork and service records. they agreed that the services that we have received are almost as “prompt” and “understanding” that we should have been given. We again expressed our displeasure with the current truck and will be in a conference call between both dealers and a gm senior advisor. (Whatever that means) 

 

It means, be very nice, and do not trash the dealership, the service manager can be your biggest ally in this situation.

 

You still need to voice your displeasure, but you are asking someone to admit that they failed doing their job (service manager) to the manufacture of the product they sell.

 

Once they admit defeat GM will go forward in trying to make you a happy customer.

[MidWestAT4]

On 4/16/2020 at 4:40 AM, Cody1256 said:

Save every penny! Lol I actually helped her build her first truck. A 1986 Chevy dually. She sold for a little chunk and then wanted to buy a house. However she was only 18 and y’all know how hard it is with the credit situation. So she bought this truck and other items to build credit in hopes the quick pay off would bring it up. 
 

 

She’s a smart girl! But now that she’s ready for a house and interest rates are low.(with the covid) 

the trucks turning into a giant nightmare:(. 
 

Quick payoffs do not improve your credit.  On-time payment history does.  Having a certain number of accounts does as well.  Unless she's making crazy money, or buying a very inexpensive house, I can promise you that her mortgage consultant is telling her to get rid of the truck to qualify for the loan.  Having a $500+(likely higher) payment is very bad for her debt-to-income ratio, which will stop a mortgage application in its' tracks.  

[Cody1256]

58 minutes ago, MidWestAT4 said:

Quick payoffs do not improve your credit.  On-time payment history does.  Having a certain number of accounts does as well.  Unless she's making crazy money, or buying a very inexpensive house, I can promise you that her mortgage consultant is telling her to get rid of the truck to qualify for the loan.  Having a $500+(likely higher) payment is very bad for her debt-to-income ratio, which will stop a mortgage application in its' tracks.  

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. 
Pre approved for 220. 
 

she just closed a house at 174k at 2.89% 

it was better for her budget. These days it’s all about credit. Our parents also told us it would never work and that buying a house so young. But it goes to show if you plan ahead and invest wisely, anything can happen! 

[Snoringbear]

On 4/16/2020 at 2:06 AM, Colossus said:

And they'll give a loan to anyone now a days.

Yeh, for sure.  And, how about those 84 mo loans?   Unbelievable?  Having raised three daughters I would never allow them to buy a brand new vehicle at twenty years old.  Yes, I know at twenty young folks are adults but I’m still their go-to guy for all things automotive.  This girls dad, brother, whoever, that let her buy such an expensive truck was stupid.

[MidWestAT4]

56 minutes ago, Cody1256 said:

Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. 
Pre approved for 220. 
 

she just closed a house at 174k at 2.89% 

it was better for her budget. These days it’s all about credit. Our parents also told us it would never work and that buying a house so young. But it goes to show if you plan ahead and invest wisely, anything can happen! 

I never said she couldn't get approved.  It all comes down to the numbers.  If she has a high enough income, debt-to-income won't be an issue.  Obviously I don't know any of the numbers, so a lot of this is open to interpretation.  Simply getting approved doesn't mean it's a good financial decision.  Believe me, banks will let you make bad decisions all day long as long as their back end is covered.  

 

"Pre approved for 220" really means nothing.  The devil, they say, is in the details.  Mortgages are actually very easy to get.  You simply need to meet the requirements and manage your finances accordingly.  Reality is, a large car payment eats up a lot of buying power in your mortgage application.  The only way to solve for that is to make enough money.

[Colossus]

Manual underwriting.  No stupid credit required.  As long as you have had a steady job for over a year or two and have decent money saved up in your accounts and don't have any outstanding balances or active judgements against you, underwriting for a home loan generally works.  I piss on the need for a good credit score or any credit score for that matter.  

 

Start listening to Dave Ramsey and reading his stuff and those like him.  They've got the right idea and have helped get millions of people out of debt and teach about getting things you can afford the SMART way.  (It's worked for millions of people can't argue with that, but some broke idiots will try, as he says)

[Cody1256]

9 hours ago, Snoringbear said:

Yeh, for sure.  And, how about those 84 mo loans?   Unbelievable?  Having raised three daughters I would never allow them to buy a brand new vehicle at twenty years old.  Yes, I know at twenty young folks are adults but I’m still their go-to guy for all things automotive.  This girls dad, brother, whoever, that let her buy such an expensive truck was stupid.

 

 

When your 20 years old and make 90k+ With an assload of money saved from smart financial decisions... I think it’s is perfectly fine to buy a high class vehicle. But i guess you know best? Sounds like u might wanna job search with them instead of worrying about the car choice of someone who’s finances u don’t know anything about! But what do I know I’m just the idiot who helps Out my sister.

 

[Cody1256]

9 hours ago, MidWestAT4 said:

I never said she couldn't get approved.  It all comes down to the numbers.  If she has a high enough income, debt-to-income won't be an issue.  Obviously I don't know any of the numbers, so a lot of this is open to interpretation.  Simply getting approved doesn't mean it's a good financial decision.  Believe me, banks will let you make bad decisions all day long as long as their back end is covered.  

 

"Pre approved for 220" really means nothing.  The devil, they say, is in the details.  Mortgages are actually very easy to get.  You simply need to meet the requirements and manage your finances accordingly.  Reality is, a large car payment eats up a lot of buying power in your mortgage application.  The only way to solve for that is to make enough money.

 

I know I understand all that but it’s a good loan no pmi it’s conventional 2.89 locked in and 3.1 apr. 

 

im not trying to argue just saying we have covered all the bases she’s well off for being 20 and as u can see a lot of people here hate to see anyone so young and successful. must be envious... idk 

 

Most people pander to these multi billion dollar companies like Chevy.

 

It’s kinda sad that instead of people posting success story’s they just say F off suck it up. But thanks for the info! 

 

[Snoringbear]

8 minutes ago, Cody1256 said:

 

 

When your 20 years old and make 90k+ With an assload of money saved from smart financial decisions... I think it’s is perfectly fine to buy a high class vehicle. But i guess you know best? Sounds like u might wanna job search with them instead of worrying about the car choice of someone who’s finances u don’t know anything about! But what do I know I’m just the idiot who helps Out my sister.

 

Uh huh.....

[RyanbabZ71]

Go with a bulletproof and reliable Toyota so you can actually enjoy life.
 
 

Check the toyota manual. They actually state a value. Wife’s Sienna has the acceptable consumption per 1K miles. I believe it was 0.5qt. I thought this was crazy. It never used oil but still to say that’s normal and expected is crazy


Ryan B.

[topgear1224]

GM's was UP TO 1QT per 1,000 miles is "normal"

(GM goes on to say it is highly dependant on vehicle usage and that towing and high loads or high RPM will consume more oil. And to make sure the owners are following the maintenance intervals which INCLUDES checking the oil level EVERY fill up)

I believe 1.5Qts and higher per 1,000 was eligible for a engine replacement ticket unless vehicle was used in an "aggressive manner." GM also stated vehicles will use a large amount of oil during break-in in to ensure the oil is checked every 100 miles.


note GM considers "high RPM" anything over 2500RPM IIRC from their dealers guide.

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[Colossus]

2 hours ago, RyanbabZ71 said:

 

Check the toyota manual. They actually state a value. Wife’s Sienna has the acceptable consumption per 1K miles. I believe it was 0.5qt. I thought this was crazy. It never used oil but still to say that’s normal and expected is crazy


Ryan B.

Why?  It's the nature of the way these engines are designed to use oil with low tension piston rings and all.  Direct Injection power is nice, but comes at a price.   If it can happen to a crapota, it can happen to anything.