Jump to content

Do any of you actually subscribe monthly to the OnStar service?

milkmaster
 Share

Recommended Posts

USMC3099 Enthusiast

USMC3099

Posted
Posted
27 minutes ago, mrjulian416 said:

I don't think you get the "basic" for free anymore.  Just a 30 day free-trial and then you have to start paying for any real functionality.

 

I know I didn't get anything other than that with my purchase in Jan of this year.

Yes I just got a 2021 and the FREE days are gone. 

  • Replies 45
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

steve841
steve841

No way ... over priced.   App is cool.  But, for that kind of money each month.  F them.

SilveradoRST
SilveradoRST

I have the Remote Access and the Safety and Security packages.  It gets cold here in Canada, and starting the truck with the phone helps, when the fob range doesn't cut it.  Got the Safety and Securit

kodiakdenali
kodiakdenali

I called and demanded all onstar services be terminated immediately after taking possession of my truck. I had to call multiple times and tell them I don't care that I have 30 days free and it will ex

nutdriver Enthusiast

nutdriver

Posted
Posted
29 minutes ago, mrjulian416 said:

I don't think you get the "basic" for free anymore.  Just a 30 day free-trial and then you have to start paying for any real functionality.

 

I know I didn't get anything other than that with my purchase in Jan of this year.

I think this may be a bit of semantics as to what is included in Basic.  Essentially it is the diagnostic alerts and dealer maintenance alerts.  My 3500 was new at the end of May 2021. 

 

Also, if you provide a credit card number, OnStar will give 3 months of connectivity for free.  If you do not want to continue you need to cancel before the first renewal at 90 days and there will be no billing.  I did not carry any added OnStar services on my 2018 2500 after the 90 day trial.  I am still pondering this for my 3500 and I am in the 90 day window.

nutdriver Enthusiast

nutdriver

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, It's Tim said:

For what it's worth I subscribe to both OnStar & XM, I think they are a good value.

I have subscribed to OnStar but at the promotional rate. There's no way I would pay full price. I haven't made any decision yet on OnStar

foghorn23 Senior Enthusiast

foghorn23

Posted
Posted

To give you an idea of, in my opinion, how overpriced Onstar is, compare it to Subaru's Starlink.  Wife has a 2020 Subaru Legacy and three years of Starlink is $74.  GM's monthly pricing is 1/2 of that.  I can't see much difference in functionality between the two and there's no way I'm paying GM prices.

 

Starlink overview

 

  • Like 2
diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

diyer2

Posted
Posted

when the Government doesn't want you to exceed you alotted miles driven per week, onstar will be there to shut your ****** down

Really? 

Tin foil hat syndrome. 

  • Like 2
aseibel Senior Enthusiast

aseibel

Posted
Posted

To answer the question, no.

I might be interested in a "reasonable" 1 time fee for use of the remote app for the life of my vehicle. Or maybe if I can bundle my wife's acadia + my truck on 1 plan I'd consider it. But paying $15 a month per vehicle just to use the app?? can anyone who does this confirm if you have multiple GM vehicles, can you access both of them for $15 or is it per car? I'd pay about $5 per month total for 2 cars, for what I used the app for when I had it. So they are only 6x higher than my price point. I know you can bargain with them for like $9/month trial period, then they raise it up again.

 

We have signed up for a month of unlimited data a couple times when taking family trips in the past. But with current cell phone plans and where we drive, my wife just uses her phone as a hotspot now as it gets better service. Onstar is basically useless to me.

 

Go google Onstar complaints and read all the stories about it being impossible to cancel, they just keep charging you. Don't give them a credit card number.

  • Like 1
It's Tim Senior Enthusiast

It's Tim

Posted
Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, Foghorn19 said:

To give you an idea of, in my opinion, how overpriced Onstar is, compare it to Subaru's Starlink.  Wife has a 2020 Subaru Legacy and three years of Starlink is $74.  GM's monthly pricing is 1/2 of that.  I can't see much difference in functionality between the two and there's no way I'm paying GM prices.

 

Starlink overview

 

Same could be said of wages in the US after the clamour for a minimum of $15.00 per hour:

"Why should they pay ____________________, when labor is now so much more lucrative in Mexico, China, Vietnam..."

It's coming and everyones job is going. 

 

Always low prices. 😉

Edited by It's Tim
  • Like 1
steve841 Enthusiast

steve841

Posted
Posted

Another comparison ...

 

Tesla.  First year included, then $9.99 a month for live traffic, music streaming.  App connectivity is free.

 

They are rolling out an update now to allow users to connect to their phone's hotspot and grab  data from there since most plans include hotspot connectivity these days.

ratman6161 Enthusiast

ratman6161

Posted
Posted
On 8/5/2021 at 10:08 AM, aseibel said:

To answer the question, no.

I might be interested in a "reasonable" 1 time fee for use of the remote app for the life of my vehicle. Or maybe if I can bundle my wife's acadia + my truck on 1 plan I'd consider it. But paying $15 a month per vehicle just to use the app?? can anyone who does this confirm if you have multiple GM vehicles, can you access both of them for $15 or is it per car? I'd pay about $5 per month total for 2 cars, for what I used the app for when I had it. So they are only 6x higher than my price point. I know you can bargain with them for like $9/month trial period, then they raise it up again.

 

We have signed up for a month of unlimited data a couple times when taking family trips in the past. But with current cell phone plans and where we drive, my wife just uses her phone as a hotspot now as it gets better service. Onstar is basically useless to me.

 

Go google Onstar complaints and read all the stories about it being impossible to cancel, they just keep charging you. Don't give them a credit card number.

No.  2 vehicles = $15 x 2 if you want the tfunctionality on both...for example my 14 Corvette and my 21 Sierra.

 

In my personal experience I've never had the slightest trouble reducing service or canceling everything except basic on the Corvette.  Even basic is expired on the Vette now and no one has pestered me to renew it.

 

For anyone who is military or a veteran, make sure you tell them that.  There is an undocumented (near as I can tell) discount.  I'm getting remote access for $11.99 vs $14.99 and they just took my word for it...no proof requested.

nichos Enthusiast

nichos

Posted
Posted

Not here either. I'd like to have the "app" plan (for streaming music) and maybe live maps for more rural areas, but their prices are pretty insane.

Other than unlock/starting my truck, it doesn't offer anything that isn't on android auto.

wurgs Senior Enthusiast

wurgs

Posted
Posted

I got the basic remote access through the app for just under $80 a year. Well worth it especially in the winter around here.

  • Like 1
speedjunky78 Enthusiast

speedjunky78

Posted
Posted

When I called this weekend, the best deal I could get was $8/month. That's still ridiculous to me for the ability to use an app to remote start my car.  Even in Central California where we're in a heat wave of 20+ days over 100 degrees, it's not worth it to me.

 

I even told the rep, "your asking Hulu and Netflix prices to remote start and lock my car. I'd be willing to pay ESPN+ prices, but not Hulu/Netflix."

 

Can you imagine though if OnStar changed their model to $5 per account, up to 5 vehicles. Let's say across all of GM cars they have 1 million people sign up, or 2 million. That's between $5M-$10M in revenue A MONTH! $60M and $120M additional per year that they are not receiving currently. You can't tell me that their operating costs for the system are more than that. If OnStar wasn't currently profitable, they wouldn't be in business, but they sure are turning away a huge cash cow.

 

Maybe my numbers don't add up correctly, but I can't imagine turning away potential business like that.

  • Like 1
KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

KARNUT

Posted
Posted

This and paying for XM radio is duplication when my phone has everything I need on it. As far as my remote start. Every situation I’ve encountered it provided enough distance to have my truck cooled off by the time I reached it. 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Atlas
      Wow I'm in a pickle. (Broke down truck) and a story.

      By Atlas · Posted

      So, do I go elbow-deep on this thing or list it for sale and play dumb? Seems to "runs good."   I'm about $1200 away from having: -a rebuilt injector ($300) -a new cat ($250) -a new cat back exhaust (OE style) ($300) -a new AC compressor ($200) -AC refrigerant charge ($150)   In theory, this should rectify the obvious detracting issues from its value and operability. Cold AC with a non-squeaking AC pulley both sounds and feels good. An exhaust that isn't cut/hacked in 17 different places and doesn't vibrate on a crossmember would make it sound and feel less janky. A working cat would help the stink, and will save the earth, but *if and only if* the fuel system is working properly, which would also address the intermittent "rich" CEL.   Heard a good one... CEL for "Rich condition" means you haven't spent enough money on the truck lately, and it's letting you know.   Rebuilding the injector would seem to be the most important part. Replacing the cat would be secondary. I don't think mine is plugged or overly restricted, but it might be a little restricted? I have no good way to tell other than seat of the pants feel. I hate the smell.   The current theory is I have a rich idle problem: A bad fuel pressure regulator, or a leaking injector(s) being the highest probabilities. I already replaced the FPR but that doesn't mean its replacement isn't also bad. It was a new part from Dorman, but the packaging looked like it had been sitting on a shelf for 20 years.   This is the (single) upstream O2 sensor shown at idle. I'm getting a lot of "rich" it seems. Sometimes it stays high like that and doesn't drop down. That makes me think it's processing injector leaks or a partially stuck open injector.     Other times it looks like this. Nice oscillations between rich and lean, which is what I think it should be. Under load and at speed, the oscillations are nice and tight and uniform looking, high and low.     Fuel trims suggest the PCM is compensating pretty hard at idle to pull fuel out. But it's not enough to trip a CEL. Something about slowing to a stop: brake vaccum booster, EGR, or the EVAP purge is delayed, or there's pooled fuel in the intake again that's draining into a cylinder is enough to set the CEL. Of course, in two days of driving, it hasn't set. I was hoping to actually look at the freeze-frame data when it sets. IAT is high because it's idling on an 83 degree day here.  
    • Another JR
      Gasser Subforum Has Been Quiet - - So, Regenerative Braking and Using L10

      By Another JR · Posted

      Have considered installing a DC to DC charger in your camper to replace your isolator?  
    • newdude
      Gas fill door

      By newdude · Posted

      Common failure.  You need to replace the fuel door housing.   The painted cover transfers over to the new housing.  To remove the old one there is 4 spots where you poke the plastic to release it.  
    • newdude
      Gasser Subforum Has Been Quiet - - So, Regenerative Braking and Using L10

      By newdude · Posted

      No such thing as regenerative braking on a pure ICE vehicle.     Regenerative braking is the re-capture of energy from electric motors and stores it in the battery pack.  So hybrids, PHEV and EVs have regenerative braking.     What you are seeing is the charging system changing modes is all.  Its likely entering charge mode for some sort of reason is all.  All of the charging modes will be listed below.   As for L10 vs D.  L10 turns off automatic grade braking.  L10 puts you in control of grade downshifts where in D it will automatically do it based on brake pedal position and other factors.  Otherwise L10 and D drive exactly the same aside from that one aspect.    Battery Sulfation Mode The BCM will enter this mode when the interpreted Generator output voltage is less than 13.2 V for 45 minutes. When this condition exists the BCM will enter Charge Mode for 2–3 minutes. The BCM will then determine which mode to enter depending on voltage requirements.   Charge Mode The BCM will enter Charge Mode when ever one of the following conditions are met:   Windshield wipers are ON for more than 3 s. Climate Control Voltage Boost Mode Request is true, as sensed by the HVAC control module via serial data. High speed cooling fan, rear defogger, and HVAC high speed blower operation can cause the BCM to enter the Charge Mode. The estimated battery temperature is less than 0°C (32°F). Battery State of Charge is less than 80%. Vehicle speed is greater than 145 km/h (90 mph) A current sensor malfunction exists. System voltage is determined to be below 12.56 V When any one of these conditions is met, the system will set targeted generator output voltage to a charging voltage between 13.9–15.5 V, depending on the battery state of charge and estimated battery temperature.   Fuel Economy Mode The BCM will enter Fuel Economy Mode when the estimated battery temperature is at least 0°C (32°F) but less than or equal to 80°C (176°F), the calculated battery current is less than 15 A and greater than −8 A, and the battery state-of-charge is greater than or equal to 80%. Its targeted generator output voltage is the open circuit voltage of the battery and can be between 12.5–13.1 V. When fuel economy mode is active, the generator is not charging, only maintaining open circuit battery voltage. The BCM will exit this mode and enter Charge Mode when any of the conditions described above are present.   Headlamp Mode The BCM will enter Headlamp Mode when ever the head lamps are ON (high or low beams). Voltage will be regulated between 13.9–14.5 V.   Start Up Mode When the engine is started the BCM sets a targeted generator output voltage of 14.5 V for 30 s.   Tow/Haul Mode (if applicable) Pressing the Tow/Haul Mode button located on the center stack, the vehicle system voltage is raised and the remote (non-vehicle) battery will be charged. Having the headlamps on will raise the system voltage and if the Tow/Haul button is applied it will not serve any purpose. The voltage is regulated between 13.9-14.5 V.      
    • jaszr2
      Active Grille Delete

      By jaszr2 · Posted

      Hello from Australia Just sharing that there is now a way to delete the active shutters entirely with just a plug in module. Opens up tons of room to light bars etc.

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...