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newdude Senior Enthusiast

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21 hours ago, Jason Robins said:

So I have the refreshed sierra 1500, and just had new wheels put on. Discount tire put the new wheels on, and they used the Original TPMS sensors, but they could not get their relearn tool to communicate with the TPMS sensors, but still tried the learn process on the truck (hold down the steering wheel button on the right side while in park, then the horn honks and the left front single lights up waiting for that one to be learned), truck wouldn't learn the first one and honk and advance to the next.

 

So they took the wheels off, and put new TPMS sensors on, some schrader sensors.  They programmed the sensors to the 433 mhz range, tried the learn process on the truck again as explained above, this time, their tool would communicate with the sensor, but the truck wouldn't learn it and advance to the next one.

 

He called some tech support with their learning tool, and they said they can't program the new trucks, and that they are waiting for a software update for their tool in order to program the new trucks.

 

Left there, went to the GM dealer, and their relearn tool wouldn't even communicate with the schrader TPMS sensors that discount tire installed.  He recommended I recontact discount tire, to see if they still have the original sensors and get them back from them, because I may need to rebuy original ones.  Its been a couple days, I doubt they hung on to them, but I have called and they are looking.

 

I'm stuck and at a loss of what to do.  How do I get these dang TPMS sensors to learn to the truck?

 

 

Put the original sensors back in and drive the truck.  They will auto learn.  

newdude Senior Enthusiast

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On 6/28/2022 at 11:38 AM, redwngr said:

I don't know if they will also 'learn with the tool'

I'm definitely curious about that.

 

My read is that the truck will each sensor ID / location each time it is driven after the the 20 or so minutes of stationary time. 

I'd guess someone figures at least 20 minutes is required to rotate tires?

 

I don't have a '22.5 truck to do any trials.

I do have a teach tool that I use when swapping winter / summer tires.  (winter rims are take-offs with GM sensors)

 

If I was to get a 'refreshed' 1500, I would like to be able to continue to run the same winter rims/tires -- without having to change to a newer sensor. 

 

 

 

 

On 6/28/2022 at 8:55 AM, jaxcam02 said:

Interesting. Would it be possible for a TPMS sensor to work through this auto learn even if it doesn't react when using the reset tool? All I know is it would suck to install TPMS sensors and have them not work. That's why I always test with the reset tool before I get them installed. 

 

 

 

I can confirm that the new auto learns will NOT program to a 2019-2022 pre refresh.  The tools will recognize the sensors and if I remember right, they did beep the horn but immediately lost pairing.  We found this out when we got a set of 2021 Tahoe takeoffs to put on a used 2020 Silverado we had.  The Tahoes also use the new auto learn sensors.  

 

The service manual does still show the tool as being an option.  I will have to try it later if I have time.  

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Jason Robins New Member

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17 hours ago, newdude said:

 

 

Put the original sensors back in and drive the truck.  They will auto learn.  

As I stated, I had the original sensors on, I guess I also should have said, I drove around for a day, it did not relearn anything, I took it back the next day and they changed the sensors to new ones they have.  Clearly those don’t work either.  I did get 3 of the original sensors back from them yesterday, as that is all they could find, so I would need to buy another one.  Not sure what to do at this step, as I am not sure what discount tire will think if I go and ask them to change them back again, especially when it didn’t seem they were working the first time.

newdude Senior Enthusiast

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21 hours ago, Jason Robins said:

As I stated, I had the original sensors on, I guess I also should have said, I drove around for a day, it did not relearn anything, I took it back the next day and they changed the sensors to new ones they have.  Clearly those don’t work either.  I did get 3 of the original sensors back from them yesterday, as that is all they could find, so I would need to buy another one.  Not sure what to do at this step, as I am not sure what discount tire will think if I go and ask them to change them back again, especially when it didn’t seem they were working the first time.

 

 

Do your new aftermarket wheels have dual valve stem holes?  Typically many do to mount the sensor on the inside of the wheel and have one just for air on the outside.  

 

I would still get 4 OE sensors.  

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They do not have dual valve stems.  I ordered a OE tpms sensor, took all of them back to discount and they reinstalled them.  I have the Amazon tpms reset tool, which I tested before they were installed, and it worked.  So then I put the truck in learning, and it did All of them except for the last one, the rear drivers side.  I know they are supposed to auto learn, but auto learning doesn’t appear to work.  Manually resetting them with a tool, and putting the truck in learning mode was working until the last one,  just my luck that one is probably broken or something.  I’m gonna have to take it to GMC and have them try.

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2022.5 refresh Silverado RST 3.0L I was given part number 13542523 sensors new from my dealer. online it shows both these and 13533166 are the same sensor. I just drove 70 miles and they still have not relearned. The truck sat for maybe a hour before i left the shop and for several hours leaving before leaving my parents house.  I do have the summer tires in the bed. could that interfere with the relearn prosses? 

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7 hours ago, JCunningham said:

2022.5 refresh Silverado RST 3.0L I was given part number 13542523 sensors new from my dealer. online it shows both these and 13533166 are the same sensor. I just drove 70 miles and they still have not relearned. The truck sat for maybe a hour before i left the shop and for several hours leaving before leaving my parents house.  I do have the summer tires in the bed. could that interfere with the relearn prosses? 

Yes, move them away from the truck and then do the relearn.

newdude Senior Enthusiast

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11 hours ago, JCunningham said:

2022.5 refresh Silverado RST 3.0L I was given part number 13542523 sensors new from my dealer. online it shows both these and 13533166 are the same sensor. I just drove 70 miles and they still have not relearned. The truck sat for maybe a hour before i left the shop and for several hours leaving before leaving my parents house.  I do have the summer tires in the bed. could that interfere with the relearn prosses? 

 

 

Yes, take them out.  

redwngr Senior Enthusiast

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14 hours ago, JCunningham said:

2022.5 refresh Silverado RST 3.0L I was given part number 13542523 sensors new from my dealer. online it shows both these and 13533166 are the same sensor. I just drove 70 miles and they still have not relearned. The truck sat for maybe a hour before i left the shop and for several hours leaving before leaving my parents house.  I do have the summer tires in the bed. could that interfere with the relearn prosses? 

If it can still 'see' the ones it last learned it has no reason to try and detect others. 

 

In any case, taking 'em (even temporarily) is an easy test. 

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