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2017 Tacoma TRD Pro Is Toyota's Colorado ZR2

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Duronimal Enthusiast

Duronimal

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I'm with Toyota, I'll take halogens on an off-road truck because the best factory hid's won't compete with the additional off-road lights I'll be installing anyway.

Daryl LBZ Senior Enthusiast

Daryl LBZ

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HIDs suck. I've never understood why people get so wrapped up in them. The bulbs are absurdly expensive, they're needlessly complex with the ballasts that also cost money when they fail. HIDs are not cheap, especially in a pickup truck where they're going to need auto-leveling to function properly. LED can work, I have them in my Jeep because the factory halogens were junk. But when done right, as they were in pretty much everything else I've owned, I have no issue with them. I haven't driven a new Tacoma so who knows how they did this time but to say it's some kind of injustice to see halogens still in use is nuts- hundreds of models still use them because they work. Yes they're cheap to manufacture but they're also cheap to maintain and that's just as important, especially for something like the Tacoma where Toyota has a reputation of bullet proof-ness to keep up.

Where'd you find the led's at for your Jeep?

MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

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Where'd you find the led's at for your Jeep?

 

From Quadratec. They're just H4 lights with adaptors to plug into the Jeep which usually has H13 (I think?) bulbs. Whole housings, not just bulbs.

Daryl LBZ Senior Enthusiast

Daryl LBZ

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From Quadratec. They're just H4 lights with adaptors to plug into the Jeep which usually has H13 (I think?) bulbs. Whole housings, not just bulbs.

I see. Was thinking about putting those in my Cruze, but I guess it's not possible.

68fleetside New Member

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Never owned hid lights on anything but my 2008 Sierra had the best lights I've ever used on any vehicle.

 

My present 2008 Yukon XL has the WORST lighting I've ever used on any vehicle. I can leave the lights on high beam and I've never been scorned from another driver ever.

 

My 1968 C10 with OEM style bulb but new "white light" technology is better when night driving, deer sighting.

 

2017 is surely a year HID has to be the norm.

Nargg Enthusiast

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My 1968 C10 with OEM style bulb but new "white light" technology is better when night driving, deer sighting.

 

 

So, why do you think they make "hunters glass" yellow? White is not a natural color, and casts shadows and reduces contrast to the eyes. Very poor for deer sighting, especially in the places they like to hide.

Janster Enthusiast

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Honestly? If you're into offroading, the only good thing about that TRD Off-road or PRO is the locker, crawl control (if you think you need it), and the FOX shocks.

 

You can build just about any truck to be better than that simply by adding ARB's and an Atlas. :)

MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

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Two words: Not Diesel. So not a ZR2.

 

The ZR2 doesn't really even exist yet and the model being tested is gas powered. Toyota has been doing this way longer than GM and unless GM has a knockout with this ZR2 (which I expect they won't sadly), the Tacoma will probably be better off road.

 

 

 

Honestly? If you're into offroading, the only good thing about that TRD Off-road or PRO is the locker, crawl control (if you think you need it), and the FOX shocks.

 

You can build just about any truck to be better than that simply by adding ARB's and an Atlas. :)

 

 

 

No one is saying you can't build something better, this is about a turnkey system that will be usable every day and still play on weekends. All easily financed in a conventional auto loan with a warranty. Your imaginary built rig won't do any of that.

Janster Enthusiast

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No one is saying you can't build something better, this is about a turnkey system that will be usable every day and still play on weekends. All easily financed in a conventional auto loan with a warranty. Your imaginary built rig won't do any of that.

Look closer....... There's A LOT of things the Tacoma doesn't have (out of the box) that the Canyon & Colorado have. For example: The new Tacomas don't have power seats and you can't get one with it. They still use rear drum brakes, and the 'top of the line' Limited version only comes in one cab configuration and you can't even add stuff to it. That's only a few things off the top of my head.

 

So, as you guys complain that GMC & Chevy aren't keeping up ..... You haven't looked close enough.

 

And that is exactly why I said....the only thing that's any good on that Tacoma Pro - is the locker, crawl control, and the fox shocks.

 

I've spent months researching the new Tacoma vs Canyon/Colorado. I've seen the differences.......and I would say that it's Toyota that hasn't kept up.

MikeNH Senior Enthusiast

MikeNH

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Toyota does options weird, I'll give you that. Plus you're limited by whatever the regional distribution center has, you can't really order from the factory like you can elsewhere. As for the Limited trim, I'm guessing it's just the most common crew/short bed but that's irrelevant since we're talking off road models. The TRD models are available in a mix of configurations.

 

As for brakes, the drums still manage to stop in a shorter distance than the Chevy in the test Car and Driver did, as was true with the last generation.

 

The GM trucks are not made for off-road, just look at the big dumb air dam.

 

Power seats would be nice but aren't a deal breaker to me.

 

Don't get me wrong, I owned a Tacoma and wasn't thrilled with it but if I had to buy a midsize, it'd still be the Toyota.

Shawn5800 Enthusiast

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After owning a Sonoma and Canyon, then the Sierra. I can tell you GM needs to put more money into their mid size interiors. They are complete rattle boxes. Over $30k for a new one? No thanks. I have realized where GM puts their money and its definitely in their full size trucks. I bought A 2007 Sierra with 140k on it and it has almost NO squeaks or rattles.

 

As for the headlight discussion, ill take a clean headlamp with halogens any day over a factory HID in a projector housing. They seem to cut inclement weather much better, which is why fog lights have a yellow hue...

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