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Got off work this morning and went to start the truck, it does its usual 6.2 "normal" squeal, i let it warm up for 2 min like i always do while i get my coffee poured and situated out of my thermos, throw it in reverse and the dash says "park assist off". I didn't touch the button on the center stack at all, so i put it back in park and shut the truck off to see if it would reset it. It didn't. Drove home with the system still saying "park assist off" (doesn't do anything when I press the button in the center stack). Got parked at my house and I walk around the truck, its raining and about 41 degrees here right now, so i wipe the sensors to see if there's anything maybe sticky or residue on them or if a rock chipped them and nothing on the front, when i got to the rear and was wiping them, the right corner one moved when i wiped it, center 2 were fine, and the left corner one pushed all the way in when i touched it.. Im assuming it was out of alignment or something which was triggering the system to shut off but now how the hell do I get the sensor back flush with the bumper? 

 

Im about to just say screw the massive trade hit and get rid of this thing, by far the dumbest vehicle purchase Ive ever made. (this isn't the only issue, just so you don't think I'm some karen)

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To say that the 2014-current trucks have glitchy and gimmicky electronics is not doing it justice. I still have my 2014 truck and I wouldn’t touch this current generation. Maybe things will improve for MY 2022 but I doubt it. GM builds vehicles as cheaply as possible and it blatantly shows. 

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My 2020 LT was a dealer courtesy vehicle with 2,200 miles on it when I bought it. Probably 4 or 5 different folks "drove" it during it's life in their fleet and did god knows what to it. Any early gremlins had to be addressed to keep it in the fleet and running. This also means it got an oil change and another PDI at 2,200 miles, plus PDI when it got to my dealer.

 

It was built in Mexico by some of the lowest paid workers GM employs. About to roll 8,000 miles with no hitches other than the Infotainment software update.

 

My 2018 built in Ft Wayne Indiana was towed to the dealer twice by the time it had 3,200 miles on it.

 

Buy American. Central American !! Hecho en Mexico !

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At GM, quarterly profits take precedence above all else.  Quality and reliability take a backseat.  GM is banking on consumer brand loyalty to keep them afloat until their next $50 billion taxpayer funded bailout.  

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I ve had that on my 2007 2008 and 2009 NNBS, well known they just have unusual glitches those rear sensors. I still have spare brand new ones 

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14 hours ago, Enough said:

My 2020 LT was a dealer courtesy vehicle with 2,200 miles on it when I bought it. Probably 4 or 5 different folks "drove" it during it's life in their fleet and did god knows what to it. Any early gremlins had to be addressed to keep it in the fleet and running. This also means it got an oil change and another PDI at 2,200 miles, plus PDI when it got to my dealer.

 

It was built in Mexico by some of the lowest paid workers GM employs. About to roll 8,000 miles with no hitches other than the Infotainment software update.

 

My 2018 built in Ft Wayne Indiana was towed to the dealer twice by the time it had 3,200 miles on it.

 

Buy American. Central American !! Hecho en Mexico !

I’ve had similar experiences too. It’s funny how many Americans talk trash about imported goods when workers here often can’t match the work ethic.

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You really think where it was built matters?  Same equipment and tools used to assemble the vehicles at the various factories. 

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2 hours ago, Colossus said:

You really think where it was built matters?  Same equipment and tools used to assemble the vehicles at the various factories. 

Same Chinese and Mexican parts too, but lower labor costs south of the border. Yes, there are still humans on the assembly lines. Even the "factory GM" tubular running boards on my truck are made in China.

 

Outsourcing for lower labor cost has lowered the quality of everything, while doing little to reduce price.

 

 

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Yes, they are built to a price (a price many already find too high). But I don’t think the quality has gotten a whole lot worse. The complexity definitely keeps going way up. And with it, potential faults and gremlins. And less time to work them out with these crazy product cycles. 
 

Either way, I can’t imagine walking into a Ram or Ford dealer and expecting much better.

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5 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Either way, I can’t imagine walking into a Ram or Ford dealer and expecting much better.

Sadly this is true. Go visit any truck forum and the problems are numerous regardless of manufacturer.

 

I think vehicles are just getting too technical and it's affecting reliability. Too much tech, too many computers, too many points of failure, all to save a few MPGs. AFM/DFM, Start/Stop, 8/9/10 Speed transmissions, electric steering, auto climate control, etc., etc. Minor benefits, major issues.

 

It's like the OP's issue with park assist, who needs park assist? These are trucks not some soccer mom's SUV. All it has done is break and become a point of aggravation. "I'm not going to buy that truck because it doesn't have park assist", a statement never uttered or heard. "I am going to buy only GM trucks because they have AFM/DFM and Auto Stop", another statement never heard. There's a whole industry developing products and/or programs to disable or delete these (and other) systems/functions.

 

I apologize for the rant.

 

JMHO

No expertise implied or expressed.

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On 11/23/2020 at 7:22 PM, RWTJR said:

Sadly this is true. Go visit any truck forum and the problems are numerous regardless of manufacturer.

 

I think vehicles are just getting too technical and it's affecting reliability. Too much tech, too many computers, too many points of failure, all to save a few MPGs. AFM/DFM, Start/Stop, 8/9/10 Speed transmissions, electric steering, auto climate control, etc., etc. Minor benefits, major issues.

 

It's like the OP's issue with park assist, who needs park assist? These are trucks not some soccer mom's SUV. All it has done is break and become a point of aggravation. "I'm not going to buy that truck because it doesn't have park assist", a statement never uttered or heard. "I am going to buy only GM trucks because they have AFM/DFM and Auto Stop", another statement never heard. There's a whole industry developing products and/or programs to disable or delete these (and other) systems/functions.

 

I apologize for the rant.

 

JMHO

No expertise implied or expressed.

I was just having this conversation with someone else and I drive an 89 Full size Jimmy most of the time for the simplicity. HOWEVER my wife loves her bells and whistles so we ended up with a 2020 SLT and I have been dealing with the gremlins ever since. 

 

Like the OP I am ready to take a hit on a trade and  I have had ongoing issues with park assist. It waits until you are onto of something and then goes off all at once if your lucky or like my wife actually tap something in a truck with less than 1,000 miles on it. To make matters worse the forward collision  has went of a couple times locking up the breaks on interstate and last night locking up because it though there was a pedestrian infant of me. Luckily there has been no one around when this has happened. 

 

I have had other issue with the "safety features" and have taken it to the dealer and all they will tell me is if we can't replicate it we can't fix it BS.

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I had a 19 denali with nothing but problems and finally traded it in. Driving a kia stinger now, planning on waiting for the new tundra. I've only had these kinds of problems with my American vehicles. The Japanese and Korean vehicles we have had have basically worked flawlessly with actually having more tech than in my denali. It can be done, the quality control at GM is just crap.

I really miss my truck, but then I remember the constant problems and dealer visits and think I made the right choice. I really hope GM gets it together though, I love their trucks, when they work.

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18 hours ago, Mikedfw said:

I had a 19 denali with nothing but problems and finally traded it in. Driving a kia stinger now, planning on waiting for the new tundra. I've only had these kinds of problems with my American vehicles. The Japanese and Korean vehicles we have had have basically worked flawlessly with actually having more tech than in my denali. It can be done, the quality control at GM is just crap.

I really miss my truck, but then I remember the constant problems and dealer visits and think I made the right choice. I really hope GM gets it together though, I love their trucks, when they work.

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You miss it a ton if you keep checking in on this forum.  Maybe getting rid of it wasn't meant to be.

 

I'd be reading a Tundra forum right now if that was the direction you were going in the future.  I always had Toys, this is my first jump to Chev and happy with it.  That new Tundra you are talking about will have issues as well.

 

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Got off work this morning and went to start the truck, it does its usual 6.2 "normal" squeal, i let it warm up for 2 min like i always do while i get my coffee poured and situated out of my thermos, throw it in reverse and the dash says "park assist off". I didn't touch the button on the center stack at all, so i put it back in park and shut the truck off to see if it would reset it. It didn't. Drove home with the system still saying "park assist off" (doesn't do anything when I press the button in the center stack). Got parked at my house and I walk around the truck, its raining and about 41 degrees here right now, so i wipe the sensors to see if there's anything maybe sticky or residue on them or if a rock chipped them and nothing on the front, when i got to the rear and was wiping them, the right corner one moved when i wiped it, center 2 were fine, and the left corner one pushed all the way in when i touched it.. Im assuming it was out of alignment or something which was triggering the system to shut off but now how the hell do I get the sensor back flush with the bumper? 
 
Im about to just say screw the massive trade hit and get rid of this thing, by far the dumbest vehicle purchase Ive ever made. (this isn't the only issue, just so you don't think I'm some karen)

I happen to know 3 different Karen’s and there’re all different. I love it when the tag a name to mean something usually bad. Bitchy is a word, probably the meaning you’re looking for. I guess somewhere there’s a bitchy Karen on the net and that’s how it started. I would never borrow a name to say how I feel. Unless of course I’m having a senior moment. I would probably say I’m having a Biden. [emoji1787]


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