Which oil filter, not so simple!

[KARNUT]

Their answer would be they’re sacrificing longevity for fuel mileage and emissions. Same reason they’re pushing electric vehicles. Man made GLOBAL WARMING. Personal inconvenience is a price we must pay for survival.

[Pryme]

8 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Food for thought:

 

iseecars.com says that  only 0.3% of all vehicles sold in the USA go past 300K, 1.2% of all vehicles sold in the USA make it past 200K miles but 95-98% will pass 100K. So...you could also say;

 

Once past 100K that 98%+ of the remaining vehicles FAIL....

Which begs some serious questions. 

 

When one says "This motor was designed to use a DEXOS 0W20!",

(for example)

Does that not say... 

"The design is to fail"? 

What oil and viscosity do you run in your truck? 
Do all you guys stick to 5w30? I’ve been contemplating if I should use 0w30 for winter here in the upper Midwest. It can dip below-20

[nocturnalmotors]

1 hour ago, Pryme said:

What oil and viscosity do you run in your truck? 
Do all you guys stick to 5w30? I’ve been contemplating if I should use 0w30 for winter here in the upper Midwest. It can dip below-20

I've been running 5w-30 here in MN but only have cold starts leaving work or out of town as I keep the garage at 50F.

[Pryme]

4 minutes ago, nocturnalmotors said:

I've been running 5w-30 here in MN but only have cold starts leaving work or out of town as I keep the garage at 50F.

Yeah that’s pretty much my situation too but my garage usually sits at 34-40 depending on outside temps. I don’t heat it but it’s insulated. It gets close to freezing if super cold and that would require me to take in some stuff I don’t want frozen. 

[Z45]

I been  using a 0W-xx oils since 1996.  The only difference between a 5W-30 and a 0W-30 is the cold flow rating (W).  The are both the same at normal operating temp (210°).  Your owners manual even recommends a 0W-30 in cold climates.

 

 

[Pryme]

2 minutes ago, elcamino said:

I been  using a 0W-xx oils since 1996.  The only difference between a 5W-30 and a 0W-30 is the cold flow rating (W).  The are both the same at normal operating temp (210°).  Your owners manual even recommends a 0W-30 in cold climates.

 

 

Yeah I read that. Below -20. I usually do run 0w30 for the reason you stated in most everything I own except the lawn mower. 

[Grumpy Bear]

1 hour ago, Pryme said:

What oil and viscosity do you run in your truck?

 

In my personal stuff I've run Red Line HP for decades but I'm in somewhat of an exploring phase. 

 

I don't actually have a "go to" SAE Grade viscosity. I have a laundry list of features I look for. 

[customboss]

1 hour ago, Pryme said:

What oil and viscosity do you run in your truck? 
Do all you guys stick to 5w30? I’ve been contemplating if I should use 0w30 for winter here in the upper Midwest. It can dip below-20

Amsoil Signature Series 5w30 and we can hit -25F for a week at a time in normal weather years here @ 9000' msl. 

 

0W is useful for outside starts super cold but after that it's a bust. Most full synthetic lubricants don't need pour point depressant additives to get cold crank and pump to be safe and allow battery to spin her up. As a matter of fact most 0W lubricants are more viscous than 5w @ 40C cSt readings. 

 

[Grumpy Bear]

16 minutes ago, customboss said:

Most full synthetic lubricants don't need pour point depressant additives to get cold crank and pump to be safe and allow battery to spin her up.

 

An example charted

[Grumpy Bear]

Going to @customboss point. 

 

Take note that the cold performance numbers for each grade are a MAXIMUM value. 

Take note that the HTHS numbers are a MINIMUM value. 

Take note there is no spec for 40 C viscosity (there is an expected range but not a spec)

Take note that ONLY the 100 C viscosity has an upper and lower limit. 

 

There are literally 5W30 oils whose low temperature performance will meet the 0W spec and whose HTHS will meet the specs of a 40W. There are also oils whose numbers 'just' meet the specs. It's a marketing wet dream. 

 

There are oils that exceed specs primarily on base oil selection, as @customboss noted and there are oils that must use additive chemistry to meet those specs. 

[newdude]

18 hours ago, C/K Man said:

 

I have a 2018 Silverado 6500HD and it takes the PF2232.  Didn't see the update.  

 

 

PF-2232 stays for 01-19.  Its the 2020+up L5P with the PF-26 that the new interchange applies to.  All 2023+forward trucks off the assembly line will have a PF-63 on them.

[RedLT]

PF63 confirmed, did first break-in oil change at 1,000 miles and the OEM filter had a sticker on it "Replace with PF63". Next oil change will be at 4,000 miles.

[2018GMC]

My 2018 6.2L L86 just rolled over 20k miles. I change oil every year and usually only put 4 - 5k miles on in that time. I've been running mobil 1 Full Syn and Pennzoil platinum. Recently joined the Amsoil club and will probably run the OE oil since I am changing with low mileage intervals. Not sure if the XL would benefit me much unless I start putting on more miles between changes.

Walmart online has a 2pk of Mobil 1 212a filters for $18 which seems pretty good. I have run the Fram Ultra XG10575 after the mobil 1 m212a and oil looks the same at 4500 miles. Rockauto has cheapest price on fram before shipping but they limit order to 1 which kills the low price.

Here's a youtube video comparison of m1-212a vs Fram XG10575. 

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by 2018GMC

[diyer2]

I run Amsoil OE in a Hyundai  Santa Fe for 4K miles. Severe duty for this car is 3750 miles and we are severe duty use. Motor is quieter than with off the shelf oil, was using Castrol Edge. Purolator One filter. Worth it to me.

[Truston Gunter]

I only saw one person mention the mobile 1 filter. Always thought mobile 1 was to be considered a "high quality" filter. Been using them since I started driving along with mobile 1 full synthetic. That's my 2 cents.