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23 minutes ago, Truston Gunter said:

I only saw one person mention the mobile 1 filter. Always thought mobile 1 was to be considered a "high quality" filter. Been using them since I started driving along with mobile 1 full synthetic. That's my 2 cents. 

Yeah you can’t go wrong with M1. I use M1 oil but not usually their filter but just due to wix usually being almost half the price and still an excellent filter. 

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Black02Silverado
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Some interesting info here.  A picture of the old AMSOIL EaO20 filter on the left and the updated Ea15k20 on the right.  Grumpy, you should like this.  Look at the micron on each box.   

newdude
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GM just dropped the E designation on it but its still the same filter as the PF-63E, 22psi.

newdude
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PF-2232 stays for 01-19.  Its the 2020+up L5P with the PF-26 that the new interchange applies to.  All 2023+forward trucks off the assembly line will have a PF-63 on them.

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On 9/26/2022 at 10:24 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

Food for thought:

 

iseecars.com says that  only 0.3% of all vehicles sold in the USA go past 300K, 1.2% of all vehicles sold in the USA make it past 200K miles but 95-98% will pass 100K. So...you could also say;

 

Once past 100K that 98%+ of the remaining vehicles FAIL....

Which begs some serious questions. 

 

When one says "This motor was designed to use a DEXOS 0W20!",

(for example)

Does that not say... 

"The design is to fail"? 

🤔

 

TRUCKTOON New Member

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I strongly disagree !!! Personally put over 320K ,220K on new trucks and cars. just do the P.M s as required.

Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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6 hours ago, TRUCKTOON said:

I strongly disagree !!! Personally put over 320K ,220K on new trucks and cars. just do the P.M s as required.

 

So, you are part of the 0.3%. Cool. Me too. Now what about the other 99.7% that didn't make it.  What is it you're disagreeing with? That you've managed to be part of a minority and that this proves the majority that fail somehow did not? Or you're just disagreeable on principle. :dunno: You are not disagreeing with me sir. It's the statistics you're having an issue with. They don't really care. Come to think of it, neither do I. You have yourself a nice evening. 

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Okay, back on subject.

 

I'd be very careful with Wix filters lately.  I've personally seen two different models with crushed louvers (internal metal slits "louvers" inside filter) that were crushed enough to barely let oil flow through the filter.  At least 50% were 100% crushed closed.  The remaining louvers were slightly open...like 0.1 to 0.25mm.

One of the two models with this issue I've held in my hand is Wix (WL102255) that I was going to install in my truck.

I'm concerned Wix quality is having some issues, as like I mentioned this is the second time I've seen this.  Crushed louvers would basically cause the oil to immediately by-pass your filter.  The "dirty" oil that was able to go through the by-pass would be less than what typically goes through the filter media on a healthy filter.  Not Good.  Very disappointed in Wix for this.  Both models came out of the same Wix factory.

 

I'm going to stick with OEM AC Delco PF63 #1270724.  I really like the internal open design.  Flow wise, I believe this filter is one of the best on the market.  Plus it is OEM so I trust the quality.  Win win.

 

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Does anyone have an opinion on running the  UPF63R instead of the standard PF63. I've been running the UltraGuard filters over the standard as a upgrade of sorts, and because by vehicles don't accrue the mileage before the time elapses between oil change intervals. The only difference I could discern the is the Ultraguard version has a higher bypass pressure.

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21 hours ago, carkhz316 said:

Does anyone have an opinion on running the  UPF63R instead of the standard PF63. I've been running the UltraGuard filters over the standard as a upgrade of sorts, and because by vehicles don't accrue the mileage before the time elapses between oil change intervals. The only difference I could discern the is the Ultraguard version has a higher bypass pressure.

I believe the media in the UPF63R is better than the standard PF63 along with a heavier can. I think the bypass pressure is the same on both. I found the UPF on Rock auto for just a little more then the regular PF63. I still have a couple PF63 left but as soon as they are gone I have a supply of the UPF's

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On 6/23/2023 at 3:05 PM, Dustin Marshall said:

Okay, back on subject.

 

I'd be very careful with Wix filters lately.  I've personally seen two different models with crushed louvers (internal metal slits "louvers" inside filter) that were crushed enough to barely let oil flow through the filter.  At least 50% were 100% crushed closed.  The remaining louvers were slightly open...like 0.1 to 0.25mm.

One of the two models with this issue I've held in my hand is Wix (WL102255) that I was going to install in my truck.

I'm concerned Wix quality is having some issues, as like I mentioned this is the second time I've seen this.  Crushed louvers would basically cause the oil to immediately by-pass your filter.  The "dirty" oil that was able to go through the by-pass would be less than what typically goes through the filter media on a healthy filter.  Not Good.  Very disappointed in Wix for this.  Both models came out of the same Wix factory.

 

I'm going to stick with OEM AC Delco PF63 #1270724.  I really like the internal open design.  Flow wise, I believe this filter is one of the best on the market.  Plus it is OEM so I trust the quality.  Win win.

 

I've noticed the same. If I get my WIX filter from my local O'Reillys all is fine. I've noticed QC issues on the filters I order online and have shipped to me. Coincidence? Who knows. Odd to me though 

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On 6/26/2023 at 8:19 AM, 64BAwagon said:

I believe the media in the UPF63R is better than the standard PF63 along with a heavier can. I think the bypass pressure is the same on both. I found the UPF on Rock auto for just a little more then the regular PF63. I still have a couple PF63 left but as soon as they are gone I have a supply of the UPF's

Thanks. I've been under the impression the Ultraguards are a premium version over the standard AC Delco, and since my OCI are so infrequent, a few extra dollars is no big deal for me. I just didn't want to use the "wrong" filter since they don't spec the UG for the 6.6.

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FWIW

 

I change my oil with M1 filter and M1 oil every time. Seems like most always a deal is running at Advance Auto Parts on them too, just always have to ask.

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FYI the AC Delco oil filter PF63, GM Part # 12707246 has been superseded by PF63, GM Part # 12731742

I have no idea what (if any) difference there are.  Visually (holding both in my hand) they seem the same.

I'm curious if there are any differences?

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Pryme Senior Enthusiast

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On 7/28/2023 at 9:37 AM, Dustin Marshall said:

FYI the AC Delco oil filter PF63, GM Part # 12707246 has been superseded by PF63, GM Part # 12731742

I have no idea what (if any) difference there are.  Visually (holding both in my hand) they seem the same.

I'm curious if there are any differences?

The difference as far as I know is a higher psi bypass valve. 

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Might as well wake this up.........

... Quite the discussion. 

... 2024 6.6 gasser, first oil change at 5,200. I deiced to skip the first free one as i didnt want them touching the pickup. 

... We all have our thoughts. I am NOT trying to push my thoughts or sell a product. I have found what i like and works for me and my reasons. 

... I have used reusable oil filters on 3 different Harley Davidsons, actually the same filter on the 3 and a drop in reusable on a Kawasaki KLR 650. Motorcycles. 

... The  HUBB is my second use on a vehicle i have used one on. The second being this new pickup.

... This isnt being posted for argument or negative debate, just to show the world of oil filters is not flat, and venturing out of it one wont fall off the world. 

 

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Black02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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18 hours ago, lineman1234 said:

Might as well wake this up.........

... Quite the discussion. 

... 2024 6.6 gasser, first oil change at 5,200. I deiced to skip the first free one as i didnt want them touching the pickup. 

... We all have our thoughts. I am NOT trying to push my thoughts or sell a product. I have found what i like and works for me and my reasons. 

... I have used reusable oil filters on 3 different Harley Davidsons, actually the same filter on the 3 and a drop in reusable on a Kawasaki KLR 650. Motorcycles. 

... The  HUBB is my second use on a vehicle i have used one on. The second being this new pickup.

... This isnt being posted for argument or negative debate, just to show the world of oil filters is not flat, and venturing out of it one wont fall off the world. 

 

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How do you clean the filters?

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45 minutes ago, Black02Silverado said:

How do you clean the filters?

 

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Cleaning the Filter

The HUBB Filter can be cleaned by sending the inner core back to HUBB or to an authorized HUBB dealer for cleaning. A HUBB Cleaning Station and cleaning concentrate may be purchased to clean the filters in accordance with the required cleaning procedure. With either method, the filters must be cleaned as stated in your agreement with HUBB. HUBB Filters, Inc. warrants every HUBB filter to be free from defects in material and workmanship for a period of 100,000 miles or 5,000 hours, whichever comes first. The use and cleaning process required by HUBB Filters must be followed. View full warranty.

 

 

 

https://www.hubbfilters.com/cleaning-system

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