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dal1980
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You can second guess until your blue in the face...at the end of the day you already own the truck.  Hook up and go, see what you find out.  It's not like you bought the trailer without a truck and ha

MrChips
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I have a 2022 GMC AT4 2500HD with the 6.6 gasser/6 speed tranny combo and pull a 5th wheel camper similar in size to the new one you're considering. This is our 4th fifth wheel camper and my 5th 2500H

Grumpy Bear
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What is that logo on a dollar bill? The one person that can be trusted is ignored or denied. Just say'n.   

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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24 minutes ago, customboss said:

IMG_2357.thumb.jpeg.03bb3bf8e677c16b007a07ec4dbc3a99.jpegIMG_2354.thumb.jpeg.7a7c77f403768b90735581f4cd50f468.jpegHere’s my retirement maintenance volunteering. Operators drive me nuts. Decided to take 140m2 grader via a short cut on wet mountain road spring thaw. Hung up 644K and D6 being an unsupervised idiot. 
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It doesn’t take as expert to see that wasn’t a good move. If you were going down that hill and placed your wheels differently maybe if there was an emergency. If that was a high flow ditch that removed soft material maybe doable. I wouldn’t had chance it especially how sensitive environments can be.

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asilverblazer Senior Enthusiast

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On 4/24/2024 at 11:43 AM, kf9yr said:

You may also want to do some mileage checks to see how far a tank of gas will take you pulling the new trailer. 

 

You will get farther with the diesel if you go places where range between stops is an issue like boondock camping.

I doubt it, probably going to be around 9 MPG regardless of engine choice.

Another JR Senior Enthusiast

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8 hours ago, 64BAwagon said:

The perception of the gasser needing to be at the rev limiter isnt very accurate. I just came through AL, GA and TN in late March. I dont think I ever had the throttle to the floor. I typically run around 65 which seems to be the sweet spot for RPM and pulling power (around 2050 RPM) 

If your familiar with the short  grade on NB I-75 between Chattanooga and Cleveland TN where it climbs back onto the mountain,  I will use that as an example. I hit the hill doing 65, slowed going up to around 60 and maneuvered around a couple of trucks that had slowed. I ended up in 5th gear IIRC while climbing with the RPM somewhere around 3500. Not exactly screaming up the hill and still leaving throttle available. 

In a perfect world I would love a L5P for the torque. We all know the world is imperfect. I ran the numbers several times on this 3000 miles of towing. With the price difference between gas and diesel and the mileage difference I always came out cheaper and thats without factoring DEF. My cost per mile is always less, I saved 10k on the truck, I save on maintenance costs (I always do my own so the costs are minimal) AND I could likely buy a new long block L8T for what a set of diesel injectors cost. 

It all comes down to your driving habits and your experience with heavily laden trucks. Only you can decide whats comfortable and what isnt. 

If your looking for comparison watch the TFL truck videos of the Ike gauntlet. They have towed heavy with an L5P and an L8T in this truck. Compare the 2. 

 

Scott

If you were climbing at 60 mph at around 3500 rpm in an L8T with the 6L90, you were in 3rd gear. The truck climbs great in that gear at 60 - quiet and smooth. 

64BAwagon Senior Enthusiast

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1 hour ago, Another JR said:

If you were climbing at 60 mph at around 3500 rpm in an L8T with the 6L90, you were in 3rd gear. The truck climbs great in that gear at 60 - quiet and smooth. 

This example was with my 2024. With the 6L90 there was no indicator showing the gear it was in. I agree on the 6 spd though. 

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18 hours ago, Jettech1 said:

So my foot is to the floor trying to get up to 60 to merge safely with traffic.  That is a struggle with my truck only towing 8k.  I'm thinking towing 15k trying to merge will be a disaster...

 

Wow.  That does not sound normal to me with only 8k LBs.

 

You need to definitely get a diesel if you are about to double the weight of your trailer.

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Jettech1 Senior Enthusiast

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14 hours ago, diyer2 said:

Diesel dually if you can afford it.

I can now while I'm working.  Retirement is a different subject.  And I really don't want a dually.  I've never had one, never had any desire for one, and I think a SRW 3500 will be plenty in a diesel.  Heck my 2500 gasser is plenty when it comes to the numbers, (payload and towing) but when it comes to real world towing...that's my issue.

Jettech1 Senior Enthusiast

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12 hours ago, customboss said:

I had to retire at 52 from flying. Pissed me off. Cost me $ millions in retirement. Think through that as your seniority should allow a near retired lifestyle at Delta while bringing the $$. 

There's a lot that happened back in 2005 when Delta went bankrupt.  They froze our retirement.  I had 18.5 years up to that point so my retirement will be crap.  I remember when Delta merged with Western back in 87 right when I hired in.  They all got screwed.  I remember when Delta bought PanAm in 91.  They all got screwed too.  Apparently most of us got screwed unless you work for the government.  Yay for them!

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customboss Senior Enthusiast

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2 hours ago, Jettech1 said:

There's a lot that happened back in 2005 when Delta went bankrupt.  They froze our retirement.  I had 18.5 years up to that point so my retirement will be crap.  I remember when Delta merged with Western back in 87 right when I hired in.  They all got screwed.  I remember when Delta bought PanAm in 91.  They all got screwed too.  Apparently most of us got screwed unless you work for the government.  Yay for them!

I get it. Try leaving 13 years early. 

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gemarsh Senior Enthusiast

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20 hours ago, customboss said:

IMG_2354.thumb.jpeg.7a7c77f403768b90735581f4cd50f468.jpegHere’s my retirement maintenance volunteering. Operators drive me nuts. Decided to take 140m2 grader via a short cut on wet mountain road spring thaw. Hung up 644K and D6 being an unsupervised idiot. 
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Did the operator try rocking in the seat, while digging it in deeper? Bet he could've gotten out! 🫣

 

I've seen stuff. It just amazes me how people think. Well, don't think.

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64BAwagon Senior Enthusiast

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9 hours ago, Jettech1 said:

There's a lot that happened back in 2005 when Delta went bankrupt.  They froze our retirement.  I had 18.5 years up to that point so my retirement will be crap.  I remember when Delta merged with Western back in 87 right when I hired in.  They all got screwed.  I remember when Delta bought PanAm in 91.  They all got screwed too.  Apparently most of us got screwed unless you work for the government.  Yay for them!

As a retiree that worked for a local municipality I can say with confidence that we also got screwed several times. The same headhunter corporate consultants that work for companies also contract to municipalities. Turns out all those contracts we bargained in good faith werent worth the paper they were printed on. In this society you have only what you can hold in your hand (and even then who knows) there is no one that can be trusted. 

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Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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40 minutes ago, 64BAwagon said:

In this society you have only what you can hold in your hand (and even then who knows) there is no one that can be trusted. 

 

What is that logo on a dollar bill?

The one person that can be trusted is ignored or denied.

Just say'n. 

 

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

What is that logo on a dollar bill?

The one person that can be trusted is ignored or denied.

Just say'n. 

 

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AMEN Brother!  I was thinking exactly the same before I even read your post.  Praise being Saved!!

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customboss Senior Enthusiast

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4 hours ago, gemarsh said:

Did the operator try rocking in the seat, while digging it in deeper? Bet he could've gotten out! 🫣

 

I've seen stuff. It just amazes me how people think. Well, don't think.

48 YO with experience on prepared roads. First jump into mountain rough stuff. Judgment on this checkride was a failing grade of course.   When one is hung up with a CAT 140M2 AWD you stop digging in. 

txab Senior Enthusiast

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Give me a track hoe and I'll get both of them out. The maintainer is going to have to be dug out at the back end to facilitate removal.

 

What genius thought the FE loader was going to do anything?

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