Terrible Feature - Truck Shuts Off On It's Own?!?!

[jlong1984]

1 hour ago, KMGZ400 said:

sorry I dont feel like reading through this entire thread, but the 19+ trucks you cannot shut the "auto-stop" off at all? is that standard on all engine options? that is absurd.. I have a C class that I can hit a button and it shuts off.

You can turn Auto Start/Stop off, this thread is not about A-S/S though. This thread is about the engine shutdown feature if you leave the truck idling in park for longer than half an hour. As already stated, it's a lawyer mandated safety feature because idiots were pulling their vehicles into the garage and leaving them running, poisoning themselves with carbon monoxide. Most (maybe all?) cars with push button start have this, not just GM. 

[BlancoSilverado]

On 1/22/2019 at 1:44 PM, amxguy1970 said:

^This

 

Have you tried making sure the gas cap is all the way tight? That usually does the trick...

 

Tyler

No gas cap on new body

[EinHoden]

Try this - not sure if it will work for idling, but it does work for disabling the auto-stop.  

 

If you pop the hood, start the vehicle, and then close the hood, it disables to the auto-stop.  Might work to keep it idling while parked as well.  I think it is a disable to keep the engine running during service, so it could disable the shut down during extended idling as well.  

[rikhek]

On 7/31/2019 at 1:02 PM, KMGZ400 said:

sorry I dont feel like reading through this entire thread, but the 19+ trucks you cannot shut the "auto-stop" off at all? is that standard on all engine options? that is absurd.. I have a C class that I can hit a button and it shuts off.

This thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with the auto-stop feature.  You might want to read at least the first post...

[Thomcat]

On 1/22/2019 at 4:00 PM, Black02Silverado said:

Interesting.  I wonder why they designed this into it.  This is what I found in the owners manual.  "If the vehicle is left parked and running with the RKE transmitter outside the vehicle, it will continue to run for up to half an hour."

 

No mention of how to turn this feature off.

 

Good reason for this, to prevent someone from accidentally killing himself or his family....and possibly why a timeout on the remote start also.

 

With a key ignition you must shut off the engine to remove the key and take it with you when you leave the vehicle. Not so with a keyless ignition where the engine will run or turn off with a push of the dash button with the fob remaining your pocket. It is possible to forget to hit the dash button and exit the vehicle leaving the engine running. Park in a garage attached to the house and go to bed with the engine running all night or until it runs out of gas and the family may not wake up.

[Black02Silverado]

2 hours ago, Thomcat said:

Good reason for this, to prevent someone from accidentally killing himself or his family....and possibly why a timeout on the remote start also.

 

With a key ignition you must shut off the engine to remove the key and take it with you when you leave the vehicle. Not so with a keyless ignition where the engine will run or turn off with a push of the dash button with the fob remaining your pocket. It is possible to forget to hit the dash button and exit the vehicle leaving the engine running. Park in a garage attached to the house and go to bed with the engine running all night or until it runs out of gas and the family may not wake up.

Yeah, after researching it more and seeing on the new that people are dying from carbon monoxide poisoning due to forgetting to turn off their vehicle when they get home.  This mainly has been Toyota vehicles.  So I guess it is a safety feature.

[Mountain boy]

On 7/31/2019 at 3:34 PM, jlong1984 said:

You can turn Auto Start/Stop off, this thread is not about A-S/S though. This thread is about the engine shutdown feature if you leave the truck idling in park for longer than half an hour. As already stated, it's a lawyer mandated safety feature because idiots were pulling their vehicles into the garage and leaving them running, poisoning themselves with carbon monoxide. Most (maybe all?) cars with push button start have this, not just GM. 

I hate when people ignore the OP post and after 6 pages of posts think they are so smart they have the answer no one else does. asshat.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Mountain boy

[Jeff Knox]

The idea of this being because people are leaving there car running by accident with new keyless systems makes zero sense to me. There is zero real different between key or keyless. You still have to turn the car on or off, the only difference is doing it by turning a key or pressing a button. What would make anyone more likely to 'forget' to turn there car off because they use a button instead of a key. I mean seriously, for getting to turn your car off isnt an issue of how you turn your car on and off. It's a memory problem. I'd like to see any evidence that these people who forget to turn their vehicles off are more likely to do so because they use a button instead of a key. To call it a safety feature is absurd. If people cant remember how to operate a vehicle, or really any device, because of something as simple of knowing you need to turn something on and off to use it, they shouldn't be using such device. I mean seriously. It's not like the car magically turns on on its own, so you might forget to turn it off. This is no different then someone forgetting to turn there stove or heater or anything else off. That's no ones fault but their own, and has everything to do with their memory problems not a lack of safety in the device. This new feature however is dangerous and will likely lead to deaths, if nothing else but pets. To not offer an option to turn it off is reckless and unsafe and hopefully an unfortunate result of this will lead to them being sued over this. And unlike people suing over getting burned by coffee, it will be justified. It's not difficult to offer an option to disable this. Some cars do. I know a Jeep I rented last year allowed you to turn this off. But the 2019 GMC Arcadia and 2019 chevy Tahoo I've been driving this summer does not. 

[jwhjr]

It's habit.  The couple of times I've gotten rentals or loaners with keyless ignition I've had to make a point to remember turning them off.  I've never forgotten to turn off one with a key, but that's all I've used for 30+ years.  I'm sure if I had a keyless ignition all the time I would quickly get used to shutting it off.

[Jeff Knox]

24 minutes ago, jwhjr said:

It's habit.  The couple of times I've gotten rentals or loaners with keyless ignition I've had to make a point to remember turning them off.  I've never forgotten to turn off one with a key, but that's all I've used for 30+ years.  I'm sure if I had a keyless ignition all the time I would quickly get used to shutting it off.

Is it not the habit to turn the car off in general, not the way you do it. If its habit, wouldn't you try and go turn it off using a key? In which case you would realize that there is no key and remember you have to press the button. Why would you forget to even try and turn the car off just because you dont use a key. If anything, that habit should insure you turn the vehicle off. You may forget the way you turn it off because you have used a key for decades, but then you would still try and turn it off. You wouldn't just forget you have to turn a car off. Just how to do it. Again, you have to turn the car on still, it doesn't magically turn on. So you still have that habit of starting and stopping a car.

[jwhjr]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Knox said:

Is it not the habit to turn the car off in general, not the way you do it. If its habit, wouldn't you try and go turn it off using a key? In which case you would realize that there is no key and remember you have to press the button. Why would you forget to even try and turn the car off just because you dont use a key. If anything, that habit should insure you turn the vehicle off. You may forget the way you turn it off because you have used a key for decades, but then you would still try and turn it off. You wouldn't just forget you have to turn a car off. Just how to do it. Again, you have to turn the car on still, it doesn't magically turn on. So you still have that habit of starting and stopping a car.

I agree, but just telling you my experience. 

[jlong1984]

On 8/2/2019 at 1:12 PM, Mountain boy said:

I hate when people ignore the OP post and after 6 pages of posts think they are so smart they have the answer no one else does. asshat.

Where did I say I've got answers no one else has?  In fact, I even said it had been said before, as you can see in bold below. You don't like what I've got to say? There's a block list, feel free to put me on it dickhead. 

 

On 7/31/2019 at 3:34 PM, jlong1984 said:

You can turn Auto Start/Stop off, this thread is not about A-S/S though. This thread is about the engine shutdown feature if you leave the truck idling in park for longer than half an hour. As already stated, it's a lawyer mandated safety feature because idiots were pulling their vehicles into the garage and leaving them running, poisoning themselves with carbon monoxide. Most (maybe all?) cars with push button start have this, not just GM. 

 

[rikhek]

One act to consider is in keyed vehicles people turn the key off and remove it as they need the keys to unlock their house door and/or it's a memory function to turn and remove the key(s).  When people already have their key(s) they don't need to turn the vehicle off to get them as they already have them.

[JD214]

I had this happen to me.  We had sports this weekend and it started raining heavily.  So we went to the truck.> We had to start it because it was shot and humid.   Ran for 15 mins or so and turned off. Thought I ran out of gas. 

 

They did this because of some people that have pulled their cars in the garage and forgot to turn it off and died or got sick from Carbon Monoxide.  Just seems people can't take accountability for their own stupidity and looking to blame anyone that they can.  So Manufacturers are doing this now.  Ford has done it as well in their push to start vehicles. I think GM sets theirs much shorter though time period than others. 

[NHAT4]

On 8/2/2019 at 9:04 AM, Thomcat said:

Good reason for this, to prevent someone from accidentally killing himself or his family....and possibly why a timeout on the remote start also.

 

With a key ignition you must shut off the engine to remove the key and take it with you when you leave the vehicle. Not so with a keyless ignition where the engine will run or turn off with a push of the dash button with the fob remaining your pocket. It is possible to forget to hit the dash button and exit the vehicle leaving the engine running. Park in a garage attached to the house and go to bed with the engine running all night or until it runs out of gas and the family may not wake up.

Darwinism...     I'm fine with that....  CO due to car exhaust in garage?   where are your detectors?    We suffer because of f'ing idiots...  

 

But at the very least, the manufacturers should have an manual override , key perhaps or button. WE have demonstrated there is need for end user and prolong idling.    

 

If manufactures keep this up, they'll write themselves out of the fire, police, public works and more market...