Jump to content

Coronavirus

KARNUT

By KARNUT
in The Off-Topic Bar

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 2.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

KARNUT
KARNUT

I’m wondering. Remember H1-N1? Mass hysteria? Stock Market going crazy? Who’s going to make money? Who’s pushing the most hysteria?

diyer2
diyer2
MaverickZ71
MaverickZ71

I work in a gov't office in a secret underground undisclosed location, as they say.  No, really.  We received a briefing from an epidemiologist in Washington State.  He said that if you put someone in

Posted Images

T1Kaiju Enthusiast

T1Kaiju

Posted
Posted

People die in hospitals every day, all day long. Not surprised to see a nyc hospital over run according to ny times; that yellow journalism rag changes headlines to influence opinion - I soooo miss journalistic integrity. They said they were short on supplies well before the outbreak btw. The German death rate now is 0.4% since they do mass RANDOM testing, not the crackpot CDC/Italian `just test the sickest' philosophy (I could show you 99mpg on my burb if I took a small enough sample). They need to fire everyone at the CDC for this quackery, and strip their medical credentials. Open up the small businesses - its not fair when so many `essential` things are open allowing spread. Small businesses can limit exposure just as well...

 

Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

Grumpy Bear

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, KARNUT said:

 As usual some people who feel their way is rejected or challenged resort to insults and name calling. Usually lefties. Name calling behind the screen, brave. So you all have fun. Not fun for me anymore. I’m retired, I’m only interested in fun. I’m out of here.


 

And who called you what name? Guess I missed that. 

  • Like 2
mookdoc6 Senior Enthusiast

mookdoc6

Posted
Posted

I am pragmatic so I really look at both sides....Scientific Facts and Substantial Data along with little sips of Kool-aid along the way.

  • Like 1
Colossus Senior Enthusiast

Colossus

Posted
Posted (edited)

More people die every day from auto related accidents then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Cancer then do those from the virus.  More people die everyday from natural causes then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Murder, then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from heart attacks then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from the FLU then do those from the virus. More people die everyday from hunger then do those from the virus.

Edited by Colossus
davester Senior Enthusiast

davester

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, Colossus said:

More people die every day from auto related accidents then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Cancer then do those from the virus.  More people die everyday from natural causes then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Murder, then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from heart attacks then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from the FLU then do those from the virus. More people die everyday from hunger then do those from the virus.

First, your murders/people go hunger points are irrelevant.

 

Second, all the other ones, those people in the US get access to health care that give them a chance at living, if it's possible and mostly even if they don't have a lot of money.  This social distancing is about giving the system enough time, and reducing the peak number of  people at one time that get COVID19, so those people that do get it and need hospitalization, can get access to health care that give them a chance at living.  And so everyone else that don't have COVID19, but happen to have cancer, or get in an accident, or have some other health problem, also can get access to health care, and it's not just "Sorry, try another hospital, maybe they can help you".

  • Like 3
Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

Grumpy Bear

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Colossus said:

More people die every day from auto related accidents then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Cancer then do those from the virus.  More people die everyday from natural causes then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from Murder, then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from heart attacks then do those from the virus.  More people die every day from the FLU then do those from the virus. More people die everyday from hunger then do those from the virus.

Oh it's early yet to call this one. In 1918/19 the Spanish flu infected 2 of every 3 people on earth. At 600K in a sea of 7.8 Billion, we are just getting started. Let's see what it looks like when 5 Billion people have been infected and 1% MR is 50 million dead. 

 

Right now, you're looking at the first pitch and calling the game.

 

Hope is, if we do as they ask it will never get that bad.

 

I can't believe I'm quoting a Pope.

Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.

 

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
CamGTP Senior Enthusiast

CamGTP

Posted
Posted (edited)

How come nobody (unless I missed it) has said that we will never know the true number of recovered cases and adding to that how long it takes for everyone to recover. People that tested positive   ( who aren't in the hospital) aren't going to get a new test done in 14-21 days. Test kit supplies would completely tank if they did that.

 

So the number of recovered cases in the media will be dwarfed by the number of positive cases. All someone can do is assume the number of recovered cases is way higher than it really is but with how some people take in new and react to it, they will continue to freak out.

 

What I wanted to say here sounded better out loud and in my head that trying to type it on my keyboard.

 

 

Edited by CamGTP
Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

Grumpy Bear

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, CamGTP said:

How come nobody (unless I missed it) has said that we will never know the true number of recovered cases and adding to that how long it takes for everyone to recover. People that tested positive   ( who aren't in the hospital) aren't going to get a new test done in 14-21 days. Test kit supplies would completely tank if they did that.

 

So the number of recovered cases in the media will be dwarfed by the number of positive cases. All someone can do is assume the number of recovered cases is way higher than it really is but with how some people take in new and react to it, they will continue to freak out.

 

What I wanted to say here sounded better out loud and in my head that trying to type it on my keyboard.

 

 

That happens to us all Cameron :) 

 

We have those that doubt the number of confirmed cases. W are going to have those that doubt the recovered cases. Anyone wish to cast some dispersion of the number of dead? Is this going to be a 'we didn't really go to the moon' thing? 

 

Here's a thought. This thing is so horrific that nobody wants to believe it's even happening. People are scarred and with good reason. But guys it's hard to wash the taste of fear out of ones mouth with doubt. We WANT normal and resent it being taken from us by something we can't shoot, strangle or yell at. 

 

We are getting all wishy-washy and confused. We compare this with that. We doubt the data of this one while holding past data in reverence then spin and say the old data was inaccurate when we need it to be to support some other view. It's a government plot. It's some countries fault. It isn't happening. What it is, is scary stuff. 

 

You don't need to be 100% accurate with stats to be 99.7% right. Stats look at samples of populations to look at that populations unknowns and make them known to a high degree of certainty. What you do have to get right is looking at the right data SETS. Look at the kennel and not one box of puppies in the kennel if the kennel is what you want to know something of. (refereeing to an earlier post). Look in the box if it's a box issue. The very idea that the result is tied to a probability allows for bad data and still gives a USEFUL picture even it isn't dead on. Stats are the difference between reason and gambling. It's why card counters get the bump when caught.

 

Your standing on the beach and the tide goes out a thousand feet in a minute. Everyone knows it's a tsunami but instead of heading for high ground and because we have a house on the beach we want to argue how many feet out is a tsunami and not just an anomaly in the tides?  Others wish to stand there and ignore it because of the economic disaster it will have if we don't. Some want to stack bodies on the beach and hope it will lessen the impact. Is any of this rational?

 

The tide is STILL going out on this one. It isn't just about over. It's just getting started. Be rational everybody. Be safe.  

  • Like 1
Cpl_Punishment Senior Enthusiast

Cpl_Punishment

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

That happens to us all Cameron :) 

 

We have those that doubt the number of confirmed cases. W are going to have those that doubt the recovered cases. Anyone wish to cast some dispersion of the number of dead? Is this going to be a 'we didn't really go to the moon' thing? 

 

Here's a thought. This thing is so horrific that nobody wants to believe it's even happening. People are scarred and with good reason. But guys it's hard to wash the taste of fear out of ones mouth with doubt. We WANT normal and resent it being taken from us by something we can't shoot, strangle or yell at. 

 

We are getting all wishy-washy and confused. We compare this with that. We doubt the data of this one while holding past data in reverence then spin and say the old data was inaccurate when we need it to be to support some other view. It's a government plot. It's some countries fault. It isn't happening. What it is, is scary stuff. 

 

You don't need to be 100% accurate with stats to be 99.7% right. Stats look at samples of populations to look at that populations unknowns and make them known to a high degree of certainty. What you do have to get right is looking at the right data SETS. Look at the kennel and not one box of puppies in the kennel if the kennel is what you want to know something of. (refereeing to an earlier post). Look in the box if it's a box issue. The very idea that the result is tied to a probability allows for bad data and still gives a USEFUL picture even it isn't dead on. Stats are the difference between reason and gambling. It's why card counters get the bump when caught.

 

Your standing on the beach and the tide goes out a thousand feet in a minute. Everyone knows it's a tsunami but instead of heading for high ground and because we have a house on the beach we want to argue how many feet out is a tsunami and not just an anomaly in the tides?  Others wish to stand there and ignore it because of the economic disaster it will have if we don't. Some want to stack bodies on the beach and hope it will lessen the impact. Is any of this rational?

 

The tide is STILL going out on this one. It isn't just about over. It's just getting started. Be rational everybody. Be safe.  

What I'm hearing you say is one of my favourite quotes: all models are wrong but some are useful. 

  • Like 1
Likarok Senior Enthusiast

Likarok

Posted
Posted

Some folks on hear need to mellow out a bit. lol Hopefully we are all learning from this mess.

 

I think we can all agree on one thing, that none of our Government organizers were prepared for a massive disease outbreak like what we are going through now. But I hope they are paying attention because in the future, experts say we will see more super bugs like this. That being said this one is just stupidity, Thank god in most of the civilized world our food supply is safe and we don't have to resort to eating the crap that they eat in China that started this whole mess. 

Dunn Senior Enthusiast

Dunn

Posted
Posted
On 3/12/2020 at 7:07 AM, diyer2 said:

spacer.png

 

:)

I stopped watching news about 15 years ago and don't regret it one bit

  • Like 3
Dunn Senior Enthusiast

Dunn

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 3/27/2020 at 6:19 AM, Silverado4x4 said:

I just want to start seeing the media post case that people came out ok after the virus but they wont due to it being good news. But I think the people that got it 98% are ok and the other already had problems to begin with just like the flu does. Iam getting tired of all this bullshit screw all you people that think the world is coming to an end and open the country up and lets get back to work.

 

I think a lot of this is political and with Trump hating the media there never going to report good news in his favor. Its going to come to a time when people in the US are going to get fed up with all this and start doing what they use to do.

it is amazing how screwed up thing has gotten.....truly amazing

 

chinas stats are so friggen far off but if the media says so it must be true, lol

Edited by Dunn
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Forum Statistics

    250.5k
    Total Topics
    2.7m
    Total Posts

  • Member Statistics

    342,903
    Total Members
    8,960
    Most Online
    RyGuy43
    Newest Member
    RyGuy43
    Joined

  • Who's Online   0 Members, 0 Anonymous, 474 Guests (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • davester
      2015 Silverado 3500 right rear turn indicator failure

      By davester · Posted

      consider doing electrical testing?  I would guess some power or ground wire/connection has a problem.   alldata.com has wiring diagrams, connector pinouts and diagnostic procedures you can use to find where the problem is.
    • davester
      My First Project and GMC has me stumped

      By davester · Posted

      can you tell if the reader is actually trying to get codes, and the pcm is reporting none, or is your reader just silently failing because it's not communicating with the pcm?
    • Atlas
      Wow I'm in a pickle. (Broke down truck) and a story.

      By Atlas · Posted

      Any joy with this truck seems to be short-lived.   The CEL for P0172 ("bank 1" too rich) is now "intermittent".   I'm not sure where to check, or re-check, and my energy to keep chasing problems with junk is wearing thin. The P0172 seems to set as I'm coming to a stop, completely off the throttle, when fully warm. At least, that's what it's done the 3? times it's set.   Everything appears normal on the scanner EXCEPT long term fuel trim. There's only one bank on this vehicle because it's an OBD 1.5 with only one upstream O2 sensor. At idle, it's around -16.4% and will dip to -18% occasionally at idle or off-throttle. LTFT approaches 0 when throttle is held at 2500rpm. Short term appears normal, much closer to zero all the time. The LTFT tells me the engine is running rich at idle but compensating at higher load. But, why?   The EVAP purge valve doesn't appear to be leaking/sucking fuel vapor continuously. Is it sticking just as I come to a stop and the engine is choking on fuel vapor and sets the P0172? But that doesn't explain the persistently negative LTFT. Disconnecting the purge valve doesn't seem to make any difference.   I suppose that leaves another dang issue with the fuel injector. A leaking fuel pressure regulator, a new leak in the spider, or a leaking fuel injector/poppet valve I didn't see, or a small crack in one of the spider legs.   The vacuum line leading to the fuel pressure regulator doesn't have raw fuel in it. It doesn't even smell like fuel when it's pulled off, not until you suck air through it, then you can tell it leads to a fuel component. I'd consider that normal? Nothing is signaling this is a FPR issue from the outside, at least.   The oil smells like fuel but it's not building volume. I've noticed most oil in most engines smells like fuel to some degree so it's hard to say if the smell is an issue or not. Or if the engine just still smells like fuel because the crankcase was full of it a few hundred miles ago. But it's been changed twice since that original issue of the leaking fuel line dumping fuel into the intake.   Patience is running very thin. Every win seems to be accompanied by two steps backwards, or another issue that leads to removing at least the top half of the intake manifold. Enough! LOL
    • Chuck FB
      Tire pressure for 37s

      By Chuck FB · Posted

      First off you mentioned "Toyo Says" and then gave the pressures 45/50, was this some person at the tire shop that pulled those numbers out of his head ?   Now of course I can't know your exact axle weights front and rear, however I have much the same pickup as yourself other than not knowing your starting weight as per the pounds the truck rolled out of the factory at due to the options yours did or didn't come with or what you have added beyond the extra tire weight. The correct way to know 100% where a person is at is by weighing each axle with the typical weight the vehicle is driven with and that means taking into account passengers and making sure you figure in a full tank of fuel and a little grace for whatever you may put in the bed "groceries" !    I am looking at and not that it really matters as all the tire companies use the same charts anyway, but I am looking at the comprehensive Toyo tire chart in the section that your tire falls under and I know it sounds confusing but your tire is not an LT metric tire like your factory tire but instead because its a standard inch measured tire its under a different category called an LT floatation series tire. That makes a difference as LT metric tires they don't want to see run below 35 psi at highway speed where as with the LT floatation series it can be run down to 25 psi on the highway as long as the weight on the said size of tire is agreeable with or less than that minimum 25 psi. It blows many people away that how is this physically possible, an empty truck for one thing and larger tires with the same size wheel diameter have a lot more air volume so they can carry the same weight as the smaller tire with less air pressure.    So my truck, I have the stock 275/65R20 wheels and tires and I have a bit of weight in the box with a bak flip cover and a rubber bed mat and some tools and spare gas. The front of my gas truck weighs a bit more than some trucks of the similar spec due to double batteries and alternators. However with full fuel and just me in the truck I am weighted such that I can run 40 front and 35 rear and so that is what I have done since day one.    If I base your truck at or slightly below the weight of my truck, in theory with your tires going by the tire chart you might be right around a minimum of 30 pounds front and 25 pounds rear. Of course that would hit pretty much minimum cold inflation pressure one could run with that tire size and a near empty truck. If you have access to an accurate weigh scale to do individual front and rear axle weights I would suggest you do that and make sure your topped up with fuel and whatever else in the truck before you weigh it and then you will have a great starting point to work off of and figure out what your bare minimum pressures are you can safely run. If you do much in the way of hot weather high speed driving, bumping up a bit for a safety margin is never a bad idea but just depends on what type of driving you do. I will include the Toyo chart and the floatation series sizes start on page 31. Without a doubt at these pressures I am speculating at minimum wise for your truck, it would most certainly ride very different then it did when you were using 55 lb front and rear.     https://www.toyotires.com/media/pxcjubjs/application_of_load_inflation_tables_20200723.pdf
    • Snowcamo
      Possible lifter tick after DOD delete

      By Snowcamo · Posted

      Take an automotive stethoscope to the vacuum pump. Iirc those tick as well. 

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...