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2 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

Wow, it’s lots cheaper than the Amsoil too. Just doesn’t have the supporting wire backing on either. I’m willing to give it a shot!


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Don't knock the DELCO BRO! 

 

792 gph

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Wire backing not needed and only adds to iron count/contamination....heck even the gaskets will show up with silicone contamination.  You want the cleanest highest flow rate of any filter..Better put a DELCO ON THERE SON!  Brand new filters are dirty right out of the box.

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Why do you buy qts when your truck takes 2 gallons?  Just order the gallons and stop messing around with individual qts.  LOL

Don’t have anywhere to store them, I’d have to rearrange my cabinets, to much work. Besides, they’re easier to tote around when space is a concern during road trips but I’ve definitely been thinking about it.


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27 minutes ago, mookdoc6 said:

Don't knock the DELCO BRO! 

 

792 gph

13.2 Gpm

 

Wire backing not needed and only adds to iron count/contamination....heck even the gaskets will show up with silicone contamination.  You want the cleanest highest flow rate of any filter..Better put a DELCO ON THERE SON!  Brand new filters are dirty right out of the box.

You make me :crackup:

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

You make me :crackup:

Grumps,

 

I know you don't care or would listen to me anyway but my later stage goal in life is to post/update on this forum my K2 with more miles and still operating whether it takes 10yrs or 4 trans in my sled THAN PEPPER!  I am gonna see it through!

 

Anyway, I decided to change out my Vacuum pump recently.  I am not even sure your 4.3 has one but I assume it does?  I couldn't sleep thinking of having anybody else work on my baby other than me so I opted to do it myself.  Did the OEM pump need to come off since I bought it?  No, it worked fine as far as I was concerned other than being loud I thought.  So after examination it's clear to me as to the main problem with this design.  The casted body slightly different has little to no bearing.  The internals?  Not sure... discarded old unit and obviously didn't open up new unit?  The culprit is the Micro-screen and it's so fine inevitably even with 2k OCI with Redline/Amsoil or BOB'S SLICK 0W-20 the screen will restrict from engine combustion byproducts, junk etc. and ultimately fail!  I am just giving you a heads up for 130.00 I think I paid....Yes, it's far quieter than original and the new pumps safety screen is literally 100x more open and will not restrict or clog unless you go 100k without changing oil.

 

So go outside tomorrow scratch the OL'  Nutsack and ponder the wisdom I tried to instill?  Choice is yours I don't judge!  MOOK

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Grumps,
 
I know you don't care or would listen to me anyway but my later stage goal in life is to post/update on this forum my K2 with more miles and still operating whether it takes 10yrs or 4 trans in my sled THAN PEPPER!  I am gonna see it through!
 
Anyway, I decided to change out my Vacuum pump recently.  I am not even sure your 4.3 has one but I assume it does?  I couldn't sleep thinking of having anybody else work on my baby other than me so I opted to do it myself.  Did the OEM pump need to come off since I bought it?  No, it worked fine as far as I was concerned other than being loud I thought.  So after examination it's clear to me as to the main problem with this design.  The casted body slightly different has little to no bearing.  The internals?  Not sure... discarded old unit and obviously didn't open up new unit?  The culprit is the Micro-screen and it's so fine inevitably even with 2k OCI with Redline/Amsoil or BOB'S SLICK 0W-20 the screen will restrict from engine combustion byproducts, junk etc. and ultimately fail!  I am just giving you a heads up for 130.00 I think I paid....Yes, it's far quieter than original and the new pumps safety screen is literally 100x more open and will not restrict or clog unless you go 100k without changing oil.
 
So go outside tomorrow scratch the OL'  Nutsack and ponder the wisdom I tried to instill?  Choice is yours I don't judge!  MOOK

Waste of time dude. Most of the same people worried about oil and filter changes and micro filtration. Are slobbering all over themselves over GMs Frankenstein engine’s that only get a couple extra miles per gallon at best. That’s only if you drive slow enough for it to work. My family business used Amsoil and its filters since the 80s. Most our testing was done on Diesel engines that ran at redline for 8-10 hrs a day. That was on pipelines in the most dusty conditions imagined. We double OCIs hours from conventional oil. Never an engine failure. That’s hundreds of engines. Other oils such as redline synthetic was added later. I still go extended with most of my gas engines. There’s been many of those tested too. One more interesting fact I learned dabbling in the salvage yard business in the 90s. Most of the non wrecked cars people brought to us still ran. The biggest killer of automobiles in my area was failing smog. It was easier to buy another used car at a pay as you go lot. Than fixing car that wouldn’t pass inspection. With the possible exception of some of the GM Frankenstein engines. Engine failures aren’t the demise of most vehicles. Way down the list is oil and filters. But it’s fun reading about how people sweat the micro filtration. For the most of the people who read this thread. That may not know better. Don’t buy the cheapest oil and filters. Follow the manufacturers recommended OCIs. With the possible exception of the Frankenstein GM engines or Rams. I’d go with the manufacturers extreme service. There’s a lot going on in those engines.


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15 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

It’s the same price as the Amsoil!

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i was very clear, but you might have missed it...NOT BOSS, Purolator ONE...the Boss actually doesnt filter as well as the ONE...even though it is their 'premium' filter...

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Grumps,

 

I know you don't care or would listen to me anyway but my later stage goal in life is to post/update on this forum my K2 with more miles and still operating whether it takes 10yrs or 4 trans in my sled THAN PEPPER!  I am gonna see it through!

 

Anyway, I decided to change out my Vacuum pump recently. 

 

So go outside tomorrow scratch the OL'  Nutsack and ponder the wisdom I tried to instill?  Choice is yours I don't judge!  MOOK

Dear Sir MOOK:

 

I enjoy your humor and I do actually listen intently to you. You set such lofty goals my friend and honor me as your benchmark. However I'm a fairly low bar as a standard overall. No one listens to me either. So....I guess we are two peas in a pod and we will trudge toward that million mile mark together. ? 

 

Yep, Pepper has a vacuum pump and we are currently at 130K on the old OEM and silent as a church fart. My reason for not as yet updating to the new pump is that this critter is still covered under the extended warranty for yet another 20K. If she makes it that far I will indeed be doing the upgrade. An no, I did not know the screen mesh was different between them. Interesting tidbit of trivia that will come in useful me thinks. Thanks!

 

Speaking of screens. Did you change the one to the VLOM under the pressure switch? Pepper had hers replace at 90,426 miles. That screen is fine as panty hose. Guess what? Looked like new. Imagine that! So why replace it? Well it got destroyed removing it. That thing is really in there for keeps. Used a pick to get it out.  

 

On a personal note. Been hot enough for ya there lately in the land of Sun and Sand?  :lol:

 

With regards to my brother from another mother

Grumpy Old Bear

 

 

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14 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

Well, my next replacement OCI oil and filters arrived. Only wish I knew WTH the flow rate is in all these filters, both say 99% at 20 microns but neither give flow rate when they’re at least at 50%. I guess we’re to assume that their marketing departments don’t like to release this information, not required which leads me to believe something is being kept from us all.

Spenpet, can you please take a pick of your pressure gauge at idle and and at normal driving so you can see the difference between before using Purolator and after? Thanks


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Yes, i will...i just changed my oil...so it will be awhile. but i will do that when time gets closer...

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i was very clear, but you might have missed it...NOT BOSS, Purolator ONE...the Boss actually doesnt filter as well as the ONE...even though it is their 'premium' filter...

That’s interesting cause online says the Boss is better than the one. No worries, to each their own, looks like I’ll just stick with what’s worked great for me for these years and maybe one day, when I’ve run out of my Amsoil filters, I may just test the Purolator. Thanks for your input, looking forward to hearing more about your pressure difference.


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That’s interesting cause online says the Boss is better than the one. No worries, to each their own, looks like I’ll just stick with what’s worked great for me for these years and maybe one day, when I’ve run out of my Amsoil filters, I may just test the Purolator. Thanks for your input, looking forward to hearing more about your pressure difference.


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In the video you posted, it articulated that the Boss is more heavy duty and fully synthetic materials, but it is i think 98% or less...i cant recall...but the ONE is 99%...again...all about filtration, not overall performance...

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In the video you posted, it articulated that the Boss is more heavy duty and fully synthetic materials, but it is i think 98% or less...i cant recall...but the ONE is 99%...again...all about filtration, not overall performance...


It was VERY CLEAR, said the Boss was more than 99% in filtration lol


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Dear Sir MOOK:

 

I enjoy your humor and I do actually listen intently to you. You set such lofty goals my friend and honor me as your benchmark. However I'm a fairly low bar as a standard overall. No one listens to me either. So....I guess we are two peas in a pod and we will trudge toward that million mile mark together. ? 

 

Yep, Pepper has a vacuum pump and we are currently at 130K on the old OEM and silent as a church fart. My reason for not as yet updating to the new pump is that this critter is still covered under the extended warranty for yet another 20K. If she makes it that far I will indeed be doing the upgrade. An no, I did not know the screen mesh was different between them. Interesting tidbit of trivia that will come in useful me thinks. Thanks!

 

Speaking of screens. Did you change the one to the VLOM under the pressure switch? Pepper had hers replace at 90,426 miles. That screen is fine as panty hose. Guess what? Looked like new. Imagine that! So why replace it? Well it got destroyed removing it. That thing is really in there for keeps. Used a pick to get it out.  

 

On a personal note. Been hot enough for ya there lately in the land of Sun and Sand?  :lol:

 

With regards to my brother from another mother

Grumpy Old Bear

 

 

Don't worry I learned as a yout to set my goals low to avoid disappointment!  I look under my throttle body frequently and look there it is.....Won't be long and I will be taking a peek at the screen!  I mean 124k and you know it's showing her age...rough idle, sputtering and where is the oil going thing?  Must be a Frankenchrist engine I have.  Good luck with yours!  MOOK

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It was VERY CLEAR, said the Boss was more than 99% in filtration lol


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ha! yeah, it does...i was confusing my sources...but i think the Boss is 99% at a higher micros...so let me go back to my research...the ONE is 99% at 20 micros...i think the boss is 99% at like 40 micros...(hold please)

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ha! yeah, it does...i was confusing my sources...but i think the Boss is 99% at a higher micros...so let me go back to my research...the ONE is 99% at 20 micros...i think the boss is 99% at like 40 micros...(hold please)

yes...Boss is at 25 micros...while the ONE is at 20 micros...again...i have no idea what that means in real world scenarios, but i do know that 99% at 20 micros is better than 99% at 25 micros...sorry...had a lot of research i was sifting through in my mind (the video you pulled was one of the resources i came across)...

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ha! yeah, it does...i was confusing my sources...but i think the Boss is 99% at a higher micros...so let me go back to my research...the ONE is 99% at 20 micros...i think the boss is 99% at like 40 micros...(hold please)

https://carcarenewsservice.org/article/premium-oil-filters-keep-oil-clean-flowing-smoothly-between-oil-changes


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