Gas Prices

[Grumpy Bear]

BP in Rochelle, Illinois

E-85 $2.60 (test 84%)

87     $4.80

89     $5.30

93     $5.80

 

Pepper is back on E-85  

 

 

[garagerog]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

BP in Rochelle, Illinois

E-85 $2.60 (test 84%)

87     $4.80

89     $5.30

93     $5.80

 

Pepper is back on E-85  

 

 

Wondering if the manufacturers aren't reconsidering going back to flex-fuel vehicles? First one that does might see a substantial bump in sales, at least in the I states. Maybe the corn belt isn't a big enough market?

[garagerog]

8 hours ago, Donstar said:

Imagine my excitement when gas price locally went down from $210.9 per litre to $207.9 per litre this weekend! 

 I sure hope you have a mis-placed decimal point, if not it's time to get a mule or horse and wagon.

[Atlas]

I paid $6.25 for diesel at an Indian Reservation today a few hours North of Seattle. Diesel a few miles off reservation was $6.89 and the highest I saw on my trip was $7.99. My Silverado took about 21 gallons on this fill-up. ~$131 to fill up the truck.

 

One of the fun cars needs gas again and Ethanol-free 91 is going for $7.29 locally. I use that stuff in my mower and power equipment too. 10 gallons to fill up the car, and 10 gallons in cans will be $145.80.

[CamGTP]

87 still around $4.25 a gallon.

 

Diesel down to $5.19.

[richard wysong]

We took the scenic cruise today, the girl wanted to go to the beach up at the NH border, lowest price I saw just over the border in NH was $4.29 cash, highest was $4.69. 87octane. I haven't been paying attention to see if they raised the alcohol content to 15%. It was a nice day around 90 degrees, west wind, the ocean still too cold for swimming though

[Jsdirt]

14 hours ago, Atlas said:

 

Your state gas tax is $0.24/gallon. A relative bargain considering they have to repave half the roads every year after the spring thaw cycle.

 

If you'd prefer $0.20/gallon, you can move to Cornhole or Montgummmrey Texas.

REPAVE the roads after EVERY spring thaw cycle?  Can tell you're not from here. They pave the roads every FIFTY years on average, unless it's in a place where lots of eyes see it (interstate) or where connected politicians live.

 

My road hasn't been paved in SEVEN DECADES. 

 

Since we collectively send BILLIONS of dollars a year to the scumbags on Beacon Hill, I'd like to know just where in the eff all this money is going??? Certainly not the roads ... 

 

I would LOVE to live in Texas!! I'd be much richer I can tell you that much. And my vehicles would last 2,000x longer.

 

P.S. _ you forgot the 0.254 cent per gallon underground storage tank replacement fee. So, 26.54 cents per gallon.

 

WHY we have to pay this, I have NO clue ... but I'd wager the scumbags running the state stuff that right in their grubby pockets.

Edited May 18 by Jsdirt

[PhilB]

16 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

BP in Rochelle, Illinois

E-85 $2.60 (test 84%)

87     $4.80

89     $5.30

93     $5.80

 

Pepper is back on E-85  

 

 

Since E85 gas has about 18% - 27% less energy than E10 gas, I would be curious to know what your MPG and cost per mile is with the higher alcohol fuel.  

 

The following is from ChatGPT:

Most “regular” gas in the U.S. is E10 (10% ethanol). E85 is a high-ethanol blend used only in flex-fuel vehicles.

Here’s the real-world fuel economy difference:

Fuel	Typical MPG vs Pure Gasoline	Typical MPG vs E10
E10	About 2–3% lower	Baseline
E85	About 20–30% lower	About 18–27% lower

So if your vehicle gets:

• 20 MPG on E10
• expect roughly 14.5–16.5 MPG on E85

The reason is simple: ethanol contains less energy per gallon than gasoline.

A few important points:

• E85 usually costs less per gallon, but not always enough less to offset the MPG loss.
• E85 has very high octane (around 100–105), so turbocharged or tuned engines can sometimes make more power on it.
• You must have a flex-fuel vehicle to safely run E85. E10 is safe for essentially all modern gasoline vehicles.

A quick way to compare actual operating cost:

Cost per mile=Price per gallonMPG\text{Cost per mile} = \frac{\text{Price per gallon}}{\text{MPG}}Cost per mile=MPGPrice per gallon

For example:

• E10 at $3.00/gallon and 20 MPG = 15¢/mile
• E85 at $2.30/gallon and 15 MPG = 15.3¢/mile

In that example, E85 is slightly more expensive to drive despite the cheaper pump price.

Here’s the basic energy relationship behind the MPG difference:

Fuel Economy Loss≈Lower Energy Content of E85Energy Content of E10≈20%−30%\text{Fuel Economy Loss} \approx \frac{\text{Lower Energy Content of E85}}{\text{Energy Content of E10}} \approx 20\%-30\%Fuel Economy Loss≈Energy Content of E10Lower Energy Content of E85≈20%−30%

[diyer2]

$4.75 85 oct.

[Grumpy Bear]

1 hour ago, PhilB said:

Since E85 gas has about 18% - 27% less energy than E10 gas, I would be curious to know what your MPG and cost per mile is with the higher alcohol fuel.  

 

The following is from ChatGPT:

Most “regular” gas in the U.S. is E10 (10% ethanol). E85 is a high-ethanol blend used only in flex-fuel vehicles.

Here’s the real-world fuel economy difference:

Fuel	Typical MPG vs Pure Gasoline	Typical MPG vs E10
E10	About 2–3% lower	Baseline
E85	About 20–30% lower	About 18–27% lower

So if your vehicle gets:

• 20 MPG on E10
• expect roughly 14.5–16.5 MPG on E85

The reason is simple: ethanol contains less energy per gallon than gasoline.

A few important points:

• E85 usually costs less per gallon, but not always enough less to offset the MPG loss.
• E85 has very high octane (around 100–105), so turbocharged or tuned engines can sometimes make more power on it.
• You must have a flex-fuel vehicle to safely run E85. E10 is safe for essentially all modern gasoline vehicles.

A quick way to compare actual operating cost:

Cost per mile=Price per gallonMPG\text{Cost per mile} = \frac{\text{Price per gallon}}{\text{MPG}}Cost per mile=MPGPrice per gallon

For example:

• E10 at $3.00/gallon and 20 MPG = 15¢/mile
• E85 at $2.30/gallon and 15 MPG = 15.3¢/mile

In that example, E85 is slightly more expensive to drive despite the cheaper pump price.

Here’s the basic energy relationship behind the MPG difference:

Fuel Economy Loss≈Lower Energy Content of E85Energy Content of E10≈20%−30%\text{Fuel Economy Loss} \approx \frac{\text{Lower Energy Content of E85}}{\text{Energy Content of E10}} \approx 20\%-30\%Fuel Economy Loss≈Energy Content of E10Lower Energy Content of E85≈20%−30%

 

Lifetime averages for both fuels is 28 mpg on E-10 and 21 on E-85 at 70% so about a 25% reduction. When the E-85 tests over 80% like it does now her history suggest 19 mpg and change or roughly 33% lower. 

 

That said repairing the HPFP already is netting some noticeable improvement so lets call it 30% on the highest alcohol percentages.  Since the current local market is pricing E-85 at 84% at a 55% discount I can make that work all day. 46% discount to Regular is a winner as well. 

 

But, even when it isn't, I run it. It's clean, very clean and easy on the oil. 

[Donstar]

14 hours ago, garagerog said:

 I sure hope you have a mis-placed decimal point, if not it's time to get a mule or horse and wagon.

Thanks for the correction.  Our gas prices are advertised in cents per litre. When we quote the price in dollars we tend to ignore the point 9 at the end of every price change.  Verbally, I would tell you our current local price is $2.07 per litre.  We should round up to $2.08 but ...   

[Atlas]

[KARNUT]

3.72 Kroger’s in Montgomery Tx. 

[Atlas]

There we go, that's the mid-morning bounce I was expecting. Because mean tweets on Sunday mean Market Manipulation Monday and higher gas prices by Wednesday.

 

[KARNUT]

17 minutes ago, Atlas said:

There we go, that's the mid-morning bounce I was expecting. Because mean tweets on Sunday mean Market Manipulation Monday and higher gas prices by Wednesday.

 

Yea, I agree those Iran tweets are really inflammatory. Some people never learn.