Coronavirus

[riverbanks]

Damn straight,it's opposite of JFK's speech,it's what the country can do for me,you want more protection,you raise payroll taxes,and we become less competitive

[davester]

2 hours ago, Texas Daddy said:

The idiot NY mayor is doing nothing but spreading fear. They need 30k ventilators!? I guess they will tube anyone who sneezes. Stupidest thing I have ever heard. HE BETTER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR SPREADING THAT BULLSHIT! COLDvid isnt going to need even 100 EXTRA vents compared to what already happens every single january (remember, somehow we have enough vents for the 50k deaths every year from flu and that season is ending). A ventilator costs $30-40k and is more sophisticated than any other hospital device save CT or MRI scanners - no company can just start cranking them out in a week. There is a pattern of fear mongering in certain states and municipalities - can you spot the pattern? Think about it when you vote, as I am convinced someone with an ax to grind has their finger on the panic button in the CDC...

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Awesome, another keyboard warrior.  How exactly do you know what medical equipment his city needs?

 

And you seem to be operating under the delusion that all the hospitals in NY are just sitting empty, waiting for COVID-19 patients.  They aren't.  They are already mostly filled with people who are having heart attacks, car crashes, the flu, and everything else under the sun.  COVID-19 is happening IN ADDITION to what already normally would happen now.

 

He has both the numbers of how many ventilators are available in the city, and the numbers for how COVID-19 patients are increasing and how many of them are going to need a one.  And he needs to ask for them now, so he at least has some of them when those patients arrive at the hospital over the next couple days, weeks and months.

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[T1Kaiju]

 

Great video - he explains it all very well although you cant round down to 1 for the flu from 1.3 - small increases make a massive difference, especially almost 1/3rd more...

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[T1Kaiju]

Awesome, another keyboard warrior.  How exactly do you know what medical equipment his city needs?
 
And you seem to be operating under the delusion that all the hospitals in NY are just sitting empty, waiting for COVID-19 patients.  They aren't.  They are already mostly filled with people who are having heart attacks, car crashes, the flu, and everything else under the sun.  COVID-19 is happening IN ADDITION to what already normally would happen now.
 
He has both the numbers of how many ventilators are available in the city, and the numbers for how COVID-19 patients are increasing and how many of them are going to need a one.  And he needs to ask for them now, so he at least has some of them when those patients arrive at the hospital over the next couple days, weeks and months.

Really, you know? You know nothing but what you are fed. Tell me what you know about mechanical ventilation. ALL HOSPITALS are waiting for this phantom menace that barely shows (unless you are in a scared state). NOBODY HAS RUN OUT OF VENTILATORS. Its a cold, and you are a FOOL media "cleaner." You cant handle the truth or 30k vents, because you dont know what they do...

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[davester]

3 minutes ago, Texas Daddy said:

Really, you know? You know nothing but what you are fed. Tell me what you know about mechanical ventilation. ALL HOSPITALS are waiting for this phantom menace that barely shows (unless you are in a scared state). NOBODY HAS RUN OUT OF VENTILATORS. Its a cold, and you are a FOOL media "cleaner." You cant handle the truth or 30k vents, because you dont know what they do...

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And your fellow Texans are fortunate you are not in charge of anything related to medicine.

[txab]

Remember to keep attitudes in check in the thread. 

[kwOH]

[KARNUT]

Grumpy informed me I’m not completing sentences. That’s probably from reading my kids and grand kids texts. They don’t complete sentences and use emojis a lot. I’ll try to do better. There’s talk of an end game for all this self quarantine. Can’t come too soon, I believe. My wife and I can easily live off our SS when I start collecting. We’re frugal. One rent house pays for our playing. My IRA is for when one of us passes it covers the reduction in SS payments. My savings and assets are for my kids. Like most older people I can adjust. This could take away my kids inheritance. I worked my life for this. So as I stated throughout this thread. I’m with Dan Patrick of Texas who’s 70. Let’s get back to work. We’ll take care of ourselves. The bug will be around awhile. Self isolation good or bad is the reason. We send kids to war to fight for every changing reasons. They’re calling this a war. This bug We need a strong economy to fight. There will be who people who die just like any other war. That’s just the way it is. The game of life can be brutal. Time to go back to work.

 

 

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[KARNUT]

I just heard an announcement. One of the Internet forums. Do to increase volume we’re dropping to standard definition. They should have left it there we would understand. But..... if you upgrade we will turn high definition back on.


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[Silverado4x4]

4 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Grumpy informed me I’m not completing sentences. That’s probably from reading my kids and grand kids texts. They don’t complete sentences and use emojis a lot. I’ll try to do better. There’s talk of an end game for all this self quarantine. Can’t come too soon, I believe. My wife and I can easily live off our SS when I start collecting. We’re frugal. One rent house pays for our playing. My IRA is for when one of us passes it covers the reduction in SS payments. My savings and assets are for my kids. Like most older people I can adjust. This could take away my kids inheritance. I worked my life for this. So as I stated throughout this thread. I’m with Dan Patrick of Texas who’s 70. Let’s get back to work. We’ll take care of ourselves. The bug will be around awhile. Self isolation good or bad is the reason. We send kids to war to fight for every changing reasons. They’re calling this a war. This bug We need a strong economy to fight. There will be who people who die just like any other war. That’s just the way it is. The game of life can be brutal. Time to go back to work.

 

 

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I 100% agree lets get back to work and open the country back up. This is nothing but the flu with a different name and we are way over reacting. Look up the sats on the flu every year In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths. This is all a bunch of bullshit and its starting to get funny on how we are reacting to this.

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[KARNUT]

I 100% agree lets get back to work and open the country back up. This is nothing but the flu with a different name and we are way over reacting. Look up the sats on the flu every year In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths. This is all a bunch of bullshit and its starting to get funny on how we are reacting to this.

I stated this throughout this thread. Multiple people are saying get back to work. Like most unknowns the worst possible outcome was shouted from all. 3-5 percent deaths was the worry. Well it’s dropping to just under 1 percent was the last I heard. The past is the past. Let’s hit the U.S engine with starting fluid (stimulus) fire this puppy up. Of course up to half of the stimulus is the Nancy’s wish list. I read. That will bare out later.

 

 

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[Grumpy Bear]

World Wide

438,739 Confirms cases

19,675 Deaths

111,933 recovered. 

307,131 In process

 

I don't know much but deaths as a percentage of recovery is 17.6%. Roughly 2 die for every 8 that recover. 

 

You can't count deaths as a percentage of the whole with in process cases. That stat would become evident when it's all said an done. 3-5% WAS the worry? Wiffffffffffff

 

 

[KARNUT]

World Wide

438,739 Confirms cases

19,675 Deaths

111,933 recovered. 

307,131 In process

 
I don't know much but deaths as a percentage of recovery is 17.6%. Roughly 2 die for every 8 that recover. 
 
You can't count deaths as a percentage of the whole with in process cases. That stat would become evident when it's all said an done. 3-5% WAS the worry? Wiffffffffffff
 
 

I saw a interesting sign growing up in Trenton NJ growing up. Trenton makes the world takes. The same can be said about the U.S. Just like the the sign in the airplane. Put your mask on yourself first before your partner or child. I watch every presser for the updates. We have to get ourselves rolling before we can help our neighbors. The doctors I see at the presser say it looking like we’re going to be at 1 percent or lower. Especially if all that wants to be tested, gets tested. The U.S. is all that’s matters to me at the moment. We are the engine of the world. China and South Korea are going under 1 percent. I don’t know were the two out of eight is coming from.


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[swathdiver]

Reported cases from last to today has slowed way down.  Usually rises by thousands and is in the hundreds.  Only 8 souls were lost to it last night in the USA.  Data from John Hopkins University.

 

Still no toilet paper, trying to get butter and chicken.

 

 

Chicoms have deactivated 21 million cell phones in China since January or so.  Must have cell phone in China, it's your "papers".

[HeySkippyDog]

Just like the the sign in the airplane. Put your mask on yourself first before your partner or child.

Sorry to derail, but I work in the aerospace industry and the reason that advice is given is so that the individual doesn't pass out from lack of oxygen while fighting with someone else's mask. If YOU can get your mask on, you can put the mask on for someone next to you who may have lost consciousness.

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