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mookdoc6 Senior Enthusiast

mookdoc6

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Who said, I am complaining? I am just not going to do 7,500k OCI? And why would I pay dealer down the street 89.99 which they will only give me Semi-synthetic and a p6F4 AC delco Ecore garbage filter not to mention the 2-3hrs out of my day? I have a CATCH CAN YO? So it's actually going to be OK for somebody like me who is pounding the miles. And the particulate matter is Handled by the Decent Synthetic filter......Real genius stuff here, boss! I will extended it even longer probably to 12K when I get the UOA. So yeah, only real problem is the cabin air filter and engine air filter going on here shocking as it sucks in more dirt in 3-4 months than yours in 1+ year.

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16LT4 Enthusiast

16LT4

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Ok you're clearly an idiot, as evidenced by your inability to form coherent sentences.

 

1) you complained, when you mentioned, three times, the price of your oil and filter.

 

2) I pointed out that the dealer charged me under $50 for 8 quarts of oil and a filter, so no, there's no reason to pay the dealer $86, but lots of reason to pay them half. That's why I said you could pay them half, as in $45. That's what "almost half" means. That's how math works.

 

3) filters aren't synthetic, filters are filters and filter according to their design, in microns. There is a LOT that gets by filters (if filters were 100%, oil wouldn't change color with usage, nor would oil flow through said filter). It is the oil that is synthetic, which protects it from thermal breakdown and shearing, but does not protect it from contaminants. Filters still have the same lifespan as they've always had, actually less: as filters trap smaller and smaller particles, their longevity decreases, because they clog sooner. Luckily for the engine, filters have bypasses in them, so that the oil flow does not shut off and starve the engine of oil. Unluckily for engines, this means that unfiltered oil is now flowing through the engine, further increasing wear. So congratulations in probably running unfiltered oil in your engine under "extreme" conditions.

 

4) congrats on your catch can YO! That and a $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee. Catch cans are NOT 100%, so you will get aerosolized oil and contaminants in through the intake, especially as oil wears and becomes further saturated with contaminants. As the ratio of solute:solvent increases and said solvent then heat-evaporates, said contaminants are left behind, coking up the intake plumbing.

 

But thanks for your inputs, really. There's no better way to find out who on the internet is a good source of information and who isn't than by reading the nonsense they try and write.

sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

sdeeter19555

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Filters can have synthetic media, and allow longer oil changes and provide better filtration.

 

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mookdoc6 Senior Enthusiast

mookdoc6

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I'm still amazed at $85 for oil and filters...I picked up 8 quarts and an oil filter for $45 at the dealer, so I highly doubt they'd charge $40 for an air filter... if dust is such a problem that the air filter needs changing at 10k miles, then that dust is also in the oil too, which would require MORE frequent oil changes. Few free to check the owner's manual or literally a hundred years on the effect of harsh conditions on engine oil for clarification.

 

As per oil consumption, check that PCV system...clogged filters, broken diaphragms, clogged lines can and do lead to engines consuming oil through the intake system, rather than past the rings or valve guides. Though Chevies have historically blown oil past the valve guides...

 

 

then that dust is also in the oil too, which would require MORE frequent oil changes! You go bud! I will stick to being the idiot that you proclaim and change the Fram 8755 at every 10K...maybe 12K if UOA looks like it will be good until then....P.S I am really a Ford guy by the way

 

4) congrats on your catch can YO! That and a $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee. Catch cans are NOT 100%, so you will get aerosolized oil and contaminants in through the intake, especially as oil wears and becomes further saturated with contaminants. As the ratio of solute:solvent increases and said solvent then heat-evaporates, said contaminants are left behind, coking up the intake plumbing.

 

Look, your kinda crazy......I have been doing 10K oil changes since the 90's "ok" What I have not done them on is "GDI" I think I will be "OK" at 10K hopefully 12K and unfortunately I have to change the air filter at that interval? The only person upset over this apparently is you?

 

So glad you could interject with all your hyperbole. I am much more informed now and will.......find out who on the internet is a good source of information and who isn't than by reading their nonsense.

SAKO79 Enthusiast

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I was going through a quart of oil every 2000km. I had it documented and every time I went in they took the truck and checked it and told me they didn't top any up yet I caught them doing it and they lied to me. Obviously GM nose there consuming oil or they wouldn't have such a high allowable consumption spec

16LT4 Enthusiast

16LT4

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Filters can have synthetic media, and allow longer oil changes and provide better filtration.

 

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Sorry I didn't elaborate more on synthetic filters. Filtration is dependent upon porosity not medium. While different mediums may physically break down slower, clogging rate increases as porosity decreases. Or, said another way, permeability decreases as porosity decreases. So yes, while a synthetic filter should last longer and thereby have a longer lifetime of filtration, the severe use aspect would simply clog the filter sooner and require oil bypass, rendering the fact that the media has deteriorated to be moot.
sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

sdeeter19555

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Filtration is dependent upon porosity not medium. While different mediums may physically break down slower, clogging rate increases as porosity decreases. Or, said another way, permeability decreases as porosity decreases.

Synthetic media have a finer filtration to begin with (versus cellulose)...the two reasons they came up with glass media was better filtration and longer life without sacrificing flow rate.

 

I've researched this topic way more than I care to remember...ran more types of bypass filters than most could name.

 

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sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

sdeeter19555

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Synthetic media have a finer filtration to begin with (versus cellulose)...the two reasons they came up with glass media was better filtration and longer life without sacrificing flow rate.

 

I've researched this topic way more than I care to remember...ran more types of bypass filters than most could name.

 

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Further, I have no dog in this fight. I was originally responding to the statement that filters aren't synthetic.

 

Have a nice day.

 

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16LT4 Enthusiast

16LT4

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then that dust is also in the oil too, which would require MORE frequent oil changes! You go bud! I will stick to being the idiot that you proclaim and change the Fram 8755 at every 10K...maybe 12K if UOA looks like it will be good until then....P.S I am really a Ford guy by the way

 

You're going to an extended OCI WITH a Fram filter? Oh sweet Jesus.

 

Out of curiosity what does being a Ford Guy have to do with anything about oil?

 

I LIKE POPCORN. Who cares?

NomadicCPO Enthusiast

NomadicCPO

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Honestly, is it affecting your mental health or pocketbook by someone else sharing their rationalization for the way they perform their maintenance? No? Then why are y'all taking it personally? Instead of attacking, perhaps a "thanks for sharing your opinion, here's mine" would have sufficed?

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

diyer2

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Honestly, is it affecting your mental health or pocketbook by someone else sharing their rationalization for the way they perform their maintenance? No? Then why are y'all taking it personally? Instead of attacking, perhaps a "thanks for sharing your opinion, here's mine" would have sufficed?

This ^^

I don't try to convince anyone on any forum I belong to that they are wrong, waste of time. I post my opinion or my way of doing things to give a different perspective. If you gain some knowledge from my ramblings great. I don't care how you put your pants on. :happysad:

smit303 Enthusiast

smit303

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39000 miles.. no oil consumption.

16LT4 Enthusiast

16LT4

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Honestly, is it affecting your mental health or pocketbook by someone else sharing their rationalization for the way they perform their maintenance? No? Then why are y'all taking it personally? Instead of attacking, perhaps a "thanks for sharing your opinion, here's mine" would have sufficed?

Forums are to aid others in maintaining vehicles, so when someone offers advice that is akin to routing their intake plumbing to a bag of sand, THAT does no body any good. There is a difference between opinion and asinine advice.

 

Hey guys, if you add water to your oil, it'll help your engine run cooler, which means more power.

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