Mobil1 new oil filter?

[diyer2]

Grumpy sold me. Going to use the Boss on the Honda due to soot in oil. Purolator One on the truck. Have to use up my Wix filters though.

[txab]

5 hours ago, spenpet said:

you literally add 0 value...dont care if you are a moderator or not...read the thread and know what you are talking about before you post BS like this.

I have read the thread and the numerous other threads on this subject, the post wasn't for you anyway.  So move on if you don't like humor.

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[txab]

Btw, if you contact them like I did several years back when one of their sales guys tried to "gift" several cases for our fleet of trucks, this is what I got....

 

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Hello, Thank you for your interest in K&N products. At this time K&N does not provide micron ratings for it's oil filters. However please be advised that K&N manufactures all of its oil filters within OEM specifications. If you have any further questions, please reply to this email or call our Customer Support Team at 1-800-858-3333. Have a great day. K&N Customer Service & Tech Support.

Just copy/paste answer.

 

Even the sales guy couldn't/wouldn't produce anything. We sent him packing.

 

I've seen nothing from K&N that impresses me enough to consider using their products

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[diyer2]

Once my stock of Edge oil and Wix filters are gone for our Honda I'm going to switch to Amsoil OE oil and Boss oil filters for it. This is partly due to the Greek's preaching and my experience with Amsoil in my ATV.  

Edited October 8, 2020 by diyer2

[TXGREEK]

Once my stock of Edge oil and Wix filters are gone for our Honda I'm going to switch to Amsoil OE oil and Boss oil filters for it. This is partly due to the Greek's preaching and my experience with Amsoil in my ATV.  

Just my recommendation: if your oil is noticeably dirtier than normal, I’d look at the middle of the line Amsoil oil, XL, it’s boosted with a lot of cleaning and only about 1.80 dollars more per can than OE, just my 2cents worth  

 

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[diyer2]

1 hour ago, TXGREEK said:

Just my recommendation: if your oil is noticeably dirtier than normal, I’d look at the middle of the line Amsoil oil, XL, it’s boosted with a lot of cleaning and only about 1.80 dollars more per can than OE, just my 2cents worth  

 

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I get your thinking. I will do 3 - 5 K OCI's. Haven't decided. This oil is for 7500 miles I believe. Definitely and up grade from off the shelf oil.

[TXGREEK]

I get your thinking. I will do 3 - 5 K OCI's. Haven't decided. This oil is for 7500 miles I believe. Definitely and up grade from off the shelf oil.

Yes, even the XL is better than the $9+ per quart Mobil1 Annual Protection.

 

 

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[Grumpy Bear]

17 hours ago, TXGREEK said:

 I don’t think bickering about 1 or 2 % filtration is worth anyone’s time. 

This statement tells me something about my assumptions. They are wrong. I assumed people understood this better. 

 

Question. Which filter specification would get your attention, 98.7% or 99%. Neither really because they are without reference to a particle size. Agree, no point in arguing about that. 

 

So lets try again. 

 

1.) 98.7% at 5 micron (Purolator One)

2.) 99% at 30 micron  (Mobil 1)

[99 in this 2nd case is the round up of a Beta of 75 or 98.7 identical percentage]

 

On the box sometimes you will find in the small print reference by an asterisk a micron reference. Sometimes they just toss a percentage at you. Sometimes they round to a whole percentage, sometimes the are resolute to a tenth. Not everyone adheres to the test standard 20 micron reference the ASTM test is anchored to. Marketing lies with impunity. 

 

 

Go back to the link provided to find how Beta is calculated then that 1% percent that isn't such a big deal as a number is a much bigger deal as a multiple of cleanliness. 

 

I like getting the raw data instead of the cleanliness code as that code is logarithmic

Each number 10 X that last. The steps are HUGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[diyer2]

26 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

Yes, even the XL is better than the $9+ per quart Mobil1 Annual Protection.

 

 

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I would think the OE is better than the Mobile 1 Annual Protection because it is 100% synthetic. 

[TXGREEK]

This statement tells me something about my assumptions. They are wrong. I assumed people understood this better. 
 
Question. Which filter specification would get your attention, 98.7% or 99%. Neither really because they are without reference to a particle size. Agree, no point in arguing about that. 
 

So lets try again. 

 

1.) 98.7% at 5 micron (Purolator One)

2.) 99% at 30 micron  (Mobil 1)

[99 in this 2nd case is the round up of a Beta of 75 or 98.7 identical percentage]

 

On the box sometimes you will find in the small print reference by an asterisk a micron reference. Sometimes they just toss a percentage at you. Sometimes they round to a whole percentage, sometimes the are resolute to a tenth. Not everyone adheres to the test standard 20 micron reference the ASTM test is anchored to. Marketing lies with impunity. 
 

 

Go back to the link provided to find how Beta is calculated then that 1% percent that isn't such a big deal as a number is a much bigger deal as a multiple of cleanliness. 

 

I like getting the raw data instead of the cleanliness code as that code is logarithmic

Each number 10 X that last. The steps are HUGE.

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To me, the most important is the flow rate with efficiency but being that I can’t find squat on the flow rate on either, I’ll stick with what I’ve been using as I’m getting excellent pressure and being that Amsoil filter along with Amsoil SS oil is what I’ve been using all along with excellent results, I’ll just stick with it.

I’m sure there may be a 1-2% better filtration with another and for some that may be worth going after but I wouldn’t want to take a chance on flow. I know the valve would open in the event clogging or slower flow started but how would I know, I wonder if my pressure would spike? I’m doing a road trip to California to help a buddy move at the end of the month, most likely hitting 5k miles by the time I get back, it’s going to be a perfect time to check my pressures throughout the trip and compare to a 5K OCI.

All in all, hoping everyone takes better care of their vehicles as the new T1’s are having issues throughout the forums which makes me want to keep my 18 even longer. So, if keeping your vehicles longer comes to mind, I’d sooner do the OCI’s and with best oil you can afford cause what’s happening in between OCI’s is the primary reason I’m using the best protection available.

Good luck to all


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[TXGREEK]

Btw, while I was at the dealership this past week, I noticed quite a few T1’s on the racks, I mentioned to one of the techs “oh, they’re getting oil changes, NOPE was the response. Apparently, the K2’s have had less issues in the amount of time from their introduction than the T1’s are having. At a closer inspection, I saw disassembled engine parts off of all of them.

So, y’all better start taking better care of those K2’s lol


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[KARNUT]

Btw, while I was at the dealership this past week, I noticed quite a few T1’s on the racks, I mentioned to one of the techs “oh, they’re getting oil changes, NOPE was the response. Apparently, the K2’s have had less issues in the amount of time from their introduction than the T1’s are having. At a closer inspection, I saw disassembled engine parts off of all of them.

So, y’all better start taking better care of those K2’s lol


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Probably the new and improved cylinder deactivation taking a dump.


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[TXGREEK]

I would think the OE is better than the Mobile 1 Annual Protection because it is 100% synthetic. 

I’d think slightly better just cause of the 100% synthetic but being that you’ve stated something to the effect your oil was getting dirty faster, I’d look into spending a few bucks just for a little added comfort. Btw, doing an engine flush along with a couple back to back OCI costs far more, than annual OCI’s with Amsoil Signature Series wouldn’t you agree?

 

I’ve been asked by multiple folks, “so what issues have you been having with your K2?”

My answer: with everything under warranty, Transmission but dealership somewhat resolved it. The negative battery cable replaced. The brake vacuum pump replaced. The rear leaf springs are always needing lube in order to reduce the popping. Recent battery replacement.

 

Other than these, that’s it.

 

My truck is an 18 SLT CC Standard Bed, at 40K miles, CST lifted with CST front Coil Overs (that do talk to each other from time to time lol) my 6.2 is tuned, AFM turned off, run nothing but Amsoil Lubricants and oil filter. And YES, I attribute my zero engine issues to using Amsoil SS. Will never use another oil!

 

 

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[TXGREEK]

Probably the new and improved cylinder deactivation taking a dump.

 

 

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Good lord, as of today, “EVERYTHING NEW” is isn’t without its issues. There was a guy that pulled up behind my truck, he said “oh, you’ve got the older with those issues, I calmly looked at him and said “ and you’ve got one of the new ones with a whole lot of problems of their own too” and proceeded to point at those up on the racks with all of them having disassembled motors and then I said, before you know it, you may need to take a number.

 

Right before I drove off, one of the techs walked by and said very nice truck, guy with the 2020 said thanks, tech responded with “I wasn’t talking about yours” and then I got a thumbs up by the tech.

 

Couldn’t make me love my truck even more than seeing new trucks up on the rack and one of those techs complimenting my truck ;)[emoji6]

 

 

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[mookdoc6]

40 minutes ago, TXGREEK said:

Good lord, as of today, “EVERYTHING NEW” is isn’t without its issues. There was a guy that pulled up behind my truck, he said “oh, you’ve got the older with those issues, I calmly looked at him and said “ and you’ve got one of the new ones with a whole lot of problems of their own too” and proceeded to point at those up on the racks with all of them having disassembled motors and then I said, before you know it, you may need to take a number.

 

Right before I drove off, one of the techs walked by and said very nice truck, guy with the 2020 said thanks, tech responded with “I wasn’t talking about yours” and then I got a thumbs up by the tech.

 

Couldn’t make me love my truck even more than seeing new trucks up on the rack and one of those techs complimenting my truck

 

 

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My local mechanic has a hairy eyeball on my truck too!