Jump to content

Frame wax coating repaired under warranty

aseibel
 Share

Recommended Posts

aseibel Senior Enthusiast

aseibel

Posted
Posted

Hi all, I have seen several threads in the past where people asked about repairing the wax coating on their frame. This may be nice for others to know.

 

I recently took my ride in to have a good once over before my 36 month warranty expired. No real issues with the truck at all. My frame had rust on it, but I didn't think it was that excessive for living in WI. But I asked about it when I was there. To my shock, they volunteered to repair the rust spots and re-coat it under warranty.

 

Here's some before photos of my frame:

20180611_072925.thumb.jpg.6582ad832fa1ab231635ae8383d9c78a.jpg

20180611_072921.thumb.jpg.ec6d716d019ff080d8f1619af6810166.jpg

aseibel Senior Enthusiast

aseibel

Posted
  • Author
Posted

same location, after the repairs:

20180612_195442.jpg

20180612_195448.jpg

  • Like 2
aseibel Senior Enthusiast

aseibel

Posted
  • Author
Posted

and here is my service sheet explaining what was done:

 

20180612_200028.jpg

  • Like 1
qwank Senior Enthusiast

qwank

Posted
Posted

I have to do this to my truck.  I only have 3,000 miles on it and no rust yet.  The body shop swears the stuff sticks to the wax.  

rrmccabe Enthusiast

rrmccabe

Posted
Posted

Have they changed the process in recent years?  My 2017 looks nothing like these pictures or the half painted trucks I have owned in the past.  This looks more like undercoating.

 

Rich

 

20180614_164806.jpg

Doublebase Enthusiast

Doublebase

Posted
Posted (edited)

I think the problem is that the stuff just comes off too easily and then the rust gets in and spreads underneath it. I have a 2018 and the thing showed some surface rust as soon as I brought it home...on the bed tubes, on top of the front spring mounts, at four spots where a tech put the thing up in the air on a lift, at various crevices. 

 

I patched some of the bare spots with a rubberized undercoating, on others I used fluid film, and on some others I stripped the coating off, sanded it down and painted it with POR. I feel like it's something that unfortunately I have to keep up with weekly or else it'll get out of control (and it's not even winter yet, this is our dry season).

 

I'm planning on doing two things...I plan on buying some Nox Rust for touch ups, and I plan on doing an undercoating treatment twice a year with either fluid film or NH Oil undercoating. 

 

I know its just "surface rust", it's not the end of the world...might not ever be a serious issue, but I don't want to chance it. I've seen three 2014's that have frames that look so corroded you'd think they were 20 year old trucks (one of them doesn't appear to have any wax coating left on the thing).

 

 

Edited by Doublebase
wforrest08 Senior Enthusiast

wforrest08

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Doublebase said:

I'm planning on doing two things...I plan on buying some Nox Rust for touch ups, and I plan on doing an undercoating treatment twice a year with either fluid film or NH Oil undercoating. 

 

 

There’s a couple of undercoating threads on here you might want to read before you get to crazy with the Fluid Film. Some guys claim it eats the wax.

Doublebase Enthusiast

Doublebase

Posted
Posted
12 minutes ago, wforrest08 said:

There’s a couple of undercoating threads on here you might want to read before you get to crazy with the Fluid Film. Some guys claim it eats the wax.

I was told that, but I haven't found that to be true. And I've seen fluid film treatments on Silverados in my area - including mine - and it didn't damage the wax. From what I've seen it sticks right to it forming another layer/barrier. 

Dnt Senior Enthusiast

Dnt

Posted
Posted

I like the idea of letting the dealership repair it. OP thanks for posting the info, if I spot some rust it looks like it will be taken care of, and that is good news. Only problem is my closest dealership is Beaman GMC in downtown Nashville and from past experience with them they will probably write on my repair ticket "Operating as designed No repairs Done" I will have to drive 25 miles to get decent service at Wilson county motors. Yes I am dogging Beaman Service department BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT AND HAVE EARNED IT. Note: Beaman has an excellent paint department (different building and different management) it is just the service department that is weak. Beaman if you read this and the many other reviews that  I have put out on your poor service department please make some management changes and get yourself back to doing good customer service. I would like to utilize it when needed.  

adamj2121 Enthusiast

adamj2121

Posted
Posted
15 hours ago, Dnt said:

I like the idea of letting the dealership repair it. OP thanks for posting the info, if I spot some rust it looks like it will be taken care of, and that is good news. Only problem is my closest dealership is Beaman GMC in downtown Nashville and from past experience with them they will probably write on my repair ticket "Operating as designed No repairs Done" I will have to drive 25 miles to get decent service at Wilson county motors. Yes I am dogging Beaman Service department BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT AND HAVE EARNED IT. Note: Beaman has an excellent paint department (different building and different management) it is just the service department that is weak. Beaman if you read this and the many other reviews that  I have put out on your poor service department please make some management changes and get yourself back to doing good customer service. I would like to utilize it when needed.  

I talked to the dealership about the rust on my truck when I purchased it, it was used with 6,000 miles on it. They would not cover any repairs to the wax/frame under warranty. So it looks like it may or may not be a service that your dealer is even willing to offer.

Dnt Senior Enthusiast

Dnt

Posted
Posted

Yes I agree a lot of the decision to do a warranty repair is initiated by your dealerships service department. If you have a fat lazy service guy that hates his job and just wants to put his hours in without any extra effort like the guys at Beaman you will get told to pound sand on any warranty repairs. Forget any rust repair or other gray area it will not happen there you have to go with a quality / customer oriented dealership service department like Wilson County GMC. Just makes me upset that I have to drive 50 miles round-trip just to get a GM  service department that does not have their head up their arse.  

2018GMC Senior Enthusiast

2018GMC

Posted
Posted (edited)

I’ve touched up a few scratches or lift marks with fluid film aerosol. Hopefully this isn’t one of the products that cause the factory wax coating to fall off?

 

Thats great your dealer took care of it and looks like a decent job touching up the problem aeras. 

 

It’s refreshing to hear a positive dealer repair vs “they all do that”, “functions as designed” or “can’t replicate” canned response :-)

Edited by 2009GMC
Doublebase Enthusiast

Doublebase

Posted
Posted
13 hours ago, 2009GMC said:

I’ve touched up a few scratches or lift marks with fluid film aerosol. Hopefully this isn’t one of the products that cause the factory wax coating to fall off?

 

Thats great your dealer took care of it and looks like a decent job touching up the problem aeras. 

 

It’s refreshing to hear a positive dealer repair vs “they all do that”, “functions as designed” or “can’t replicate” canned response :-)

To be honest I think the wax coating “falling off”, part of the equation is pretty much impossible to avoid anyway. When it gets old it dries up and falls off. When something scrapes it? It’s exposed. The fluid film, krown, NH oil...all may “soften” it, but unless you soak the heck out of it, I’ve found they don’t make it fall off. If anything they provide a little barrier and suppleness. And then dust sticks to it forming an additional barrier of protection. 

  • Thanks 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Another JR
      Remote Start Noise 2024 2500 HD Gas

      By Another JR · Posted

      Oil pump noise was discussed before.  I will try to remember to record a remote start later this morning. 
    • Chuck FB
      MPG at 600 miles

      By Chuck FB · Posted

      There are probably a few threads talking about fuel mileage but this one seemed to fit the stats I have seen based on my typical local driven route but with different outcomes based on different seasons/temperatures. I have a few hundred pounds of items that consistently ride on the truck at all times such as a bak flip cover, rubber bed mat, tools and extra fuel so I would be something over 8100 lb without me in the truck. All these examples are based on a 100 mile round trip to a town plus running around town so maybe 110 to 120 miles in total for a trip. Using regular fuel and I assume it always has some ethanol in it but don't know the percentage they blend in. Also speed wise I am going at 62 mph and non aggressive driving although less speed yet if its crappy winter condition roads. I am going by an initial reset of the computer generated fuel use numbers averaged over a couple of thousand miles or so for each weather/season so they may be more optimistic then actual hand calculated numbers. Basically this is painting a picture of doing the same drive but seasonal conditions and temperature being the major variable to the end result. Oh and although I am in Alberta Canada, I am converting it to miles per US gallon so there is no confusion.    So winter time it gets cold here, no real surprise there and the roads can be clear at times but also often have packed rough snow or are are driving through loose snow ( they do a poor job of plowing the highways ) and yes this includes the extra idle engine time due to trying not to freeze ones butt off. 12.7 mpg is what I was getting during the winter months on average.    Then during the spring when it was around the freezing point and the highways are clear of snow, I was getting around 14.25 mpg.   Summer time, I have been getting around 15.15 on average but certainly some of the trips showed quite a bit better fuel mileage, so much depended on how much or little I had driven around town and number of engine restarts after sitting for a while at each location. But stating a best fuel mileage trip to town pretending that is what the truck gets on average is fooling ones self for sure !.      As I said in a different post, I had driven a 645 mile trip over a couple of days stint to a different destination then these other daily to town examples above, and was done during the summer with nice weather and not bucking a head wind, also keeping at 62 mph and its a rolling landscape type highway drive ( this isn't southern Alberta or Saskatchewan flat lands ) Hand calculated fuel mileage in this case though and it came out to 17.65
    • Chris80s
      Factory front brake rotors...defect?

      By Chris80s · Posted

      On my wife's 2020 Blazer (~69000 miles), we started to notice the brakes pulsating at faster speeds. Typically around town you don't notice anything, but highway/interstate driving you will notice it. I decided to pull of the front tires and look at the brakes. I figured with the milage, the pads should be wearing out to their life span, but they actually looked decent. Still with "meat" on them. One pad has a ridge wearing in it, and that same rotor is showing the ridge too. That's not the concerning part...the other rotor appears to have a raised bump on it!  The picture make it look like a pimple! Very odd and strange! NOTE: These are the factory brakes and rotors.   I'm attaching pictures of the front brakes and what they look like ate ~69000 miles.
    • BCGM
      Remote Start Noise 2024 2500 HD Gas

      By BCGM · Posted

      2024 Chevrolet 2500 HD Custom 6.6 Gas Canadian built Truck  I tried to search for my previous thread on this topic but cant find it so my apoligies  for starting another one    #1   Since we have owned our truck purchased new it has this strange noise after using the remote start function  you press the remote start and you hear it start but right at the end of it starting it almost seems like it wants to start again after the truck is running .   There is no gap in time it is right at the end of the start . Almost sounds like when you have started a car/truck and its running and then you try and start it again and you get that grinding noise ,sort of     #2  You can only hear this if you are standing outside of the truck and near the truck  you cant hear it when you start the truck from inside  the cab . So it may very well be happening when starting the truck that way as in normally    #3   This only happens when it is started after sitting . For how long I don't know but it happens after sitting overnight for sure and it wont do it if you stop the engine after starting and then start it again  I have had it in to the Dealership before concerning this but they did not have the truck  when it was cold to hear it . Now its back in the Dealership left it overnight so they could possibly hear the problem . They said they tried and nothing happened . Well they did not know what they were listening for . I started the truck remotely and BINGO it makes the noise . Oh that sounds weird they say . We need to look into it ! I have left for this week at the Dealership    Does your 2024 2500 HD gas do this ?  Any of you fellas care to take the time and trouble to film this operation from a cold start  so I can hear what your sound like  Really  would like to know if this is anormal sound  Thank You Fellas !!
    • Slow
      2026 Z71 Forward and Rear Park Assist help

      By Slow · Posted

      2026 Z71.  The other day I was backing a trailer into the barn.  The alarm was going off just because the trailer was in the field of the warning sensors when you get too close to something.  For some reason now the warning alarm doesn't work anymore.  It used to go off when I was just normally backing my truck into garage.  I still have the guidelines in the back up camera.  Is there a button or something to push to turn the sound/Alarm on and off?  I have the touch screen in this truck.  There isn't a "P" on the dash except for the parking brake.  I can't find anything in the touch screen under settings or vehicle.  Thank you in advance.  

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...