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Daryl LBZ Senior Enthusiast

Daryl LBZ

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For one the new Cruze isn't very good looking in my opinion, and if it the resale on them tanks like my 2014 did then no wonder no one wants one.

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Colossus Senior Enthusiast

Colossus

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Yeah well the Hyundai's and Crapotas are not very good looking either but they still sell..

SnakeEyeSS Senior Enthusiast

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Honda saw a record high last month, so it's not industry wide. And it wasn't their new Accord, it's actually selling worse. :dunno:

 

And resale on most Chevy's tank anymore. The Camaro guys moan like they put 50k in stocks that tanked.  

 

And the corporate look is pretty meh.

 

Would you rather have a loaded equinox or sam-is-a-butt.jpg

Colossus Senior Enthusiast

Colossus

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With a big ugly grill like that, i'll take the Equinox!

 

sdeeter19555 Senior Enthusiast

sdeeter19555

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I'm just not into the "foreign" cars...most feel too utilitarian to me.

I owned several Subarus, most uncomfortable car you could buy. We drove several Toyota, Hyundai, etc. when looking for a car...kept coming back to the Equinox for ride and comfort. A lot of them were too gadget-laden for our liking...call us old school, but I grew up with trucks that didn't even have AC let alone power windows, heck power steering was an option then!

Even the "HD" truck options are a glorified 1500 (have yet to see one with a full-float axle)...the Toyota and Nissan do nothing for me...if I want a Cummins, I'll buy a Dodge with a real drivetrain. Not to mention those "full size" trucks seem small to me...

I could care less how fast they are, how many gadgets they have...


2012 2500hd 6.0l CCSB 4wd



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WilliamBos Senior Enthusiast

WilliamBos

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The Honda Civic has been the number 1 selling car in Canada since 1997, and continues to lead the pack.  If I ever needed a car, a 2 door Civic Coupe would be my choice.

 

GM has a ton of catching up to do.

 

 

They should add extra SUV production to that plant, follow Ford’s recent move.

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