Warped Dash

Doug_Scott · December 19, 2013

Learn reading comprehension - I said PRE '73 ... that means ... BEFORE.

Most people fixed their own cars back in those days. Because it was EASY. Yet another reason to own one.

You guys obviously weren't alive in those days to know what real quality was. AMX guy - those cars are almost 40 years old now - OF COURSE your going to have some interior issues! Back when they were new, they were TIGHT ,.. unlike my '07 Silverado ... with bad upper ball joints at 66k miles ... and bad lowers at 38k .... and .... ain;t got all day to type the rest!

Ain't a thing you guys can say that'll change my mind ......... just like you will continue to pay $50k for rattles, squeaks, check engine lights, and front end components that can't even make it 2 years out.

Like I said. HAVE AT IT! It's your money. What you do with it, I COULDN'T CARE LESS!

Perhaps I did not comprehend the part where you said "30 years ago and back, vehicles were produced and so" correctly. Its just that in my english/math it does not mean 73 and earlier. Actually, I just checked with CALC in windows, 30 years ago from this year is 1983. Am I still not comprehending what YOU wrote? Or are you not in agreement with the math part?

I am not trying to change your mind, just trying to get you to see that looking back is not the same as living back then,

BTW, I actually used to own a 68 AMX. Couldn't keep trunions in it, same issue with the 69 Javelin I had as well. And they both had the same issue with the ALT light glowing dimly at night. I could go on for pages with the idiosyncrasies of those 2 cars. The reason we used to do our own repairs was due more to having to do them, than with the quality. The repairs were the little fiddly pain in the ass repairs. Sort of like fixing a piece of dash trim that changes with temp change.

pm26 · December 20, 2013

Back in 1989 you could buy a brand new Silverado truck for $ 12k. I almost bought one in Texas back then, it was a new 2WD regular cab Silverado short step side bed, bucket seats, 5 speed manual transmission, 350V8, locking rear differential and usual power options (windows, locks, cruise, etc.). That truck looked so great in white color and it was fun to drive with the stick.

cmpcpro · March 23, 2014

I used to work with some higher-level people at an unnamed manufacturer. What I was told from one of them in how they issue recalls is if it is not something that can causes fatalities or serious injuries to a large group, they talk with lawyers and numbers people. They estimate what it would cost to issue a recall, and they compare that cost with what the lawyers numbers people say it would cost if there was a class-action suit for a major defect. Usually that's based on a certain percentage of buyers accepting to be a part of the lawsuit. Whichever is cheaper, they go with that one.

A while ago I spoke to a guy who claimed he worked for a major automaker but what not tell me who. He said he would investigate a potential recall and figure out what it would cost to recall vs. what it would cost to pay off on the fatalities it would cause if not recalled.. I don't know if he was for real or not, but that's what he claimed.. If a problem was rare or not as serious, they would figure out how many people could potentially die from it and compare it to what it would cost to fix all of them. So basically, if this many people dying would cost this amount in lawsuits from loved ones was cheaper than fixing them all in a recall, that's what he would figure out.. He claimed..

2016 Sierra Owner · March 23, 2014

My dealer is going to fix it. Those of you who think we should just be ok with the problem that's just your opinion. My 2012 f250 never had an issue and neither did my 2013 wrangler. Nothing wrong with expecting a product to come as advertised. My dealer said if I'm not happy with it after it's fixed then new truck for me. They also talked to their GM rep and a buy back may be possible as well.

Did they fix it or did you get a new truck like you wanted?

music · March 23, 2014

Pre-73 quality if funny. My first car was a 72 Maverick, and my dad's truck at the time was a 71 Chevy truck (good ol' 350). The Maverick could swerve two feet left or right without moving the steering (~10 yrs old and 60k miles at the time), and the truck caught fire and completely gutted itself (total loss). Pristine quality...

What *was* true is that they were dirt cheap by today's standards, but I'd take a 20 year old Honda over *anything* made pre 73 for "quality".

2happyhicks · March 24, 2014

Back to the point. .my New LTZ had the same issue, and the dealer replaced that crappy piece of plastic..which was warped and rattling. .seams that GM cant get dashes right to save their lives. .my 08 sierra denali dash rattled the dashe on my 07 1/2 ton rattles and even the dash in the 2014 Tahoe they let me drive while they had my truck for 1 month rattled... ill never buy a mew GM truck again... their QC is M.I.A.

pm26 · March 24, 2014

Pre-73 quality if funny. My first car was a 72 Maverick, and my dad's truck at the time was a 71 Chevy truck (good ol' 350). The Maverick could swerve two feet left or right without moving the steering (~10 yrs old and 60k miles at the time), and the truck caught fire and completely gutted itself (total loss). Pristine quality...

What *was* true is that they were dirt cheap by today's standards, but I'd take a 20 year old Honda over *anything* made pre 73 for "quality".

I have a 1967 Ford Thunderbird 2 door coupe. The quality of materials used in that car is impressive. The original dash is not warped or cracked to this day. You do not see brushed stainless steel interior trim frequently on any car or truck these days. And the rugedness of the C6 auto transmission can hardly be duplicated by today's standards. You do not see a swing away steering wheel on too many cars either.

music · March 24, 2014

I have a 1967 Ford Thunderbird 2 door coupe. The quality of materials used in that car is impressive. The original dash is not warped or cracked to this day. You do not see brushed stainless steel interior trim frequently on any car or truck these days. And the rugedness of the C6 auto transmission can hardly be duplicated by today's standards. You do not see a swing away steering wheel on too many cars either.

I agree, and didn't mean to paint too broad a brush (or get so far off topic). I love old cars, and by "quality", I'm referring to build tolerances... not the materials themselves.

MikeNH · March 24, 2014

I used to work with some higher-level people at an unnamed manufacturer. What I was told from one of them in how they issue recalls is if it is not something that can causes fatalities or serious injuries to a large group, they talk with lawyers and numbers people. They estimate what it would cost to issue a recall, and they compare that cost with what the lawyers numbers people say it would cost if there was a class-action suit for a major defect. Usually that's based on a certain percentage of buyers accepting to be a part of the lawsuit. Whichever is cheaper, they go with that one.

A while ago I spoke to a guy who claimed he worked for a major automaker but what not tell me who. He said he would investigate a potential recall and figure out what it would cost to recall vs. what it would cost to pay off on the fatalities it would cause if not recalled.. I don't know if he was for real or not, but that's what he claimed.. If a problem was rare or not as serious, they would figure out how many people could potentially die from it and compare it to what it would cost to fix all of them. So basically, if this many people dying would cost this amount in lawsuits from loved ones was cheaper than fixing them all in a recall, that's what he would figure out.. He claimed..

Was he the narrator from Fight Club? Because that's almost an exact quote.

cmpcpro · March 25, 2014

Lol I saw that.. who knows if he was playing with me but he seemed serious..

MikeNH · March 25, 2014

Lol I saw that.. who knows if he was playing with me but he seemed serious..

Something tells me after that movie came out anyone who worked for an automaker in legal or some sort of engineering dept probably messed with folks by telling that story. I know I would.

bradplotz77 · March 31, 2014

Has there been an update to the dash kit on the 2014's?

mike94silverado · April 6, 2014

Lol I saw that.. who knows if he was playing with me but he seemed serious..

Something tells me after that movie came out anyone who worked for an automaker in legal or some sort of engineering dept probably messed with folks by telling that story. I know I would.

same here lol

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Dnt · December 21, 2016

I found this old thread from 2013/ 2014 about a dash plastic cover misalignment. I have a 2016 Denali manufactured January 6th 2016 that I just had the dealer replace the plastic cover in front of the dash pad. It was raised up well above the dash pad right in my line of sight as I drove. The new one is also slightly raised but the dealership says that area does not have a fastener it is about 1/2 way between fasteners and nothing more that they can do (IT IS NORMAL). Looked at several new trucks and if you press in on that area yes they are all loose and probably prone to warping in certain temperature conditions. GM if you are listening you need to add a fastener at the end of the defrost vents. Was hoping that GM might come out with a redesigned plastic cover? BUT after seeing this thread from THREE YEARS AGO it really does not appear to be a GM priority LOL. I could not find any other threads for this but might have missed them???

Here is a pic of the dash of my $59,768.00 MSRP 2016 Denali

GMCustomerService · January 2, 2017

I found this old thread from 2013/ 2014 about a dash plastic cover misalignment. I have a 2016 Denali manufactured January 6th 2016 that I just had the dealer replace the plastic cover in front of the dash pad. It was raised up well above the dash pad right in my line of sight as I drove. The new one is also slightly raised but the dealership says that area does not have a fastener it is about 1/2 way between fasteners and nothing more that they can do (IT IS NORMAL). Looked at several new trucks and if you press in on that area yes they are all loose and probably prone to warping in certain temperature conditions. GM if you are listening you need to add a fastener at the end of the defrost vents. Was hoping that GM might come out with a redesigned plastic cover? BUT after seeing this thread from THREE YEARS AGO it really does not appear to be a GM priority LOL. I could not find any other threads for this but might have missed them???

Here is a pic of the dash of my $59,768.00 MSRP 2016 Denali

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