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SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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I think everyone that is upset about GM closing the mentioned assembly plants are spot on. I agree GM should keep making cars people don’t want.  Geez, what is GM thinking.  

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Its understandable that sedans arent in demand and they could cut a few models that arent selling. The point is... Those plants could be used to make other models and keep american workers working and spending money here in America!..ITs utter bullshit that a good portion of their other vehicles are made in Mexico and China while they close our plants.. .It was OK they took our money so they didnt fold in 2009, now they turn around and shove it back up our asses, all in the name of "business"

 

Yea yea no shit labor is cheaper there, so make a few million less of a profit, or negotiate with the UAW to help bring jobs back.... Mexican and Chinese workers arent spending their money here, so who are the only ones who makes out.?? ....Corporate GM does.. so they can tout their almighy profits....making vehicles that americans cant buy because they dont have jobs anymore.

SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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2 minutes ago, ajensen383 said:

Its understandable that sedans arent in demand and they could cut a few models that arent selling. The point is... Those plants could be used to make other models and keep american workers working and spending money here in America!..ITs utter bullshit that a good portion of their other vehicles are made in Mexico and China while they close our plants.. .It was OK they took our money so they didnt fold in 2009, now they turn around and shove it back up our asses, all in the name of "business"

 

Yea yea no shit labor is cheaper there, so make a few million less of a profit, or negotiate with the UAW to help bring jobs back.... Mexican and Chinese workers arent spending their money here, so who are the only ones who makes out.?? ....Corporate GM does.. so they can tout their almighy profits....making vehicles that americans cant buy because they dont have jobs anymore.

So it sounds like you are saying GM is closing plants in the US and keeping plants in foreign countries open regardless of what sales are of the vehicles being made in these plants.  

j-ten-ner Senior Enthusiast

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I had a little chat with a few Canadians. They aren't really pleased about this dick-move by GM.

As I know the Canadians, GM will loose quite a bit of sales up North.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

Jsdirt Senior Enthusiast

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I suspect they'll lose quite a bit more down here in the USA as well, especially after they took our tax dollars.

 

I said all along back then, we should've let the company DIE. We'd all have been better off!

SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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35 minutes ago, j-ten-ner said:

I had a little chat with a few Canadians. They aren't really pleased about this dick-move by GM.

As I know the Canadians, GM will loose quite a bit of sales up North.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

I know quite a few Canadians and they aren’t stupid, they aren’t dumb enough to think it’s a dick move by GM.  They actually thinks it’s stupid to make cars nobody wants.  

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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I don’t see a problem with any manufacturer building products where the sell them. Much like Toyota, Hyundai, Mercedes, Honda building here employing workers here. When I bought my 14 GMC DC, that played a part in me buying it. I don’t mind paying a little more for made in the USA.


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SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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16 minutes ago, Jsdirt said:

I suspect they'll lose quite a bit more down here in the USA as well, especially after they took our tax dollars.

 

I said all along back then, we should've let the company DIE. We'd all have been better off!

GM, and any other company that makes things people don’t want, will eventually die.  So if GM were to keep building these cars people don’t want your wish would come true.  

j-ten-ner Senior Enthusiast

j-ten-ner

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33 minutes ago, SILVER SLED said:

I know quite a few Canadians and they aren’t stupid, they aren’t dumb enough to think it’s a dick move by GM.  They actually thinks it’s stupid to make cars nobody wants.  

It's still a dick-move.

 

"A 'dick' move is done when one is in a position of power. A 'bitch' move is a cowardly act done to undermine someone in power.

For instance, a CEO who holds all voting stock and intentionally dilutes his employees to enrich himself has pulled a dick move. On the other hand, the employee who airs out the dirty laundry of the CEO in response to the dilution, has pulled a bitch move."

Cameron Ellis

 

;)

so long

j-ten-ner

SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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19 minutes ago, j-ten-ner said:

It's still a dick-move.

 

"A 'dick' move is done when one is in a position of power. A 'bitch' move is a cowardly act done to undermine someone in power.

For instance, a CEO who holds all voting stock and intentionally dilutes his employees to enrich himself has pulled a dick move. On the other hand, the employee who airs out the dirty laundry of the CEO in response to the dilution, has pulled a bitch move."

Cameron Ellis

 

;)

so long

j-ten-ner

“It’s stupid to make and try and sell things people don’t want” 

 

Silver Sled

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Colossus Senior Enthusiast

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7 hours ago, SILVER SLED said:

Exactly. Except the Impala went from 1958 to 1990.  And the  Caprice started out as uplevel trim on an Impala, same thing. 

No, it did not.  At least not in America.  Maybe in some other country.  Read up, my friend.  I know the Caprice/Impala line rather well.  At least the 80s and 90s.  versions.  (Had a vew and worked on many and drove many)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Impala
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Caprice


 

Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

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5 hours ago, SILVER SLED said:

I think everyone that is upset about GM closing the mentioned assembly plants are spot on. I agree GM should keep making cars people don’t want.  Geez, what is GM thinking.  

Or they could make the Cadillac the name promised instead of a 'me too' copy cat of a Audi. Now there's a concept. 

SILVER SLED Senior Enthusiast

SILVER SLED

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3 hours ago, Colossus said:

No, it did not.  At least not in America.  Maybe in some other country.  Read up, my friend.  I know the Caprice/Impala line rather well.  At least the 80s and 90s.  versions.  (Had a vew and worked on many and drove many)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Impala
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Caprice


 

You  originally stated the impala has only been around since 2000.  I just said it’s basically been around since 1958,  which your links prove.  They also prove that the Caprice name started as an up level trim on an Impala, and in 86 when the Impala name was dropped, it was just dropping the trim level of the same big rwd sedan. The car was still produced.   

BobHancock Enthusiast

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On 11/27/2018 at 6:02 PM, L86 All Terrain said:

The plants in the US are all related to the model lines being discontinued. One assembled cars like Oshawa, the others made powertrain parts for said cars. This is all to do with JT's politics, not the fact that GM had to restructure, it's the fact they are up and leaving because business in Ontario sucks. Oshawa also made Silverado and Sierra which the other US plants closing did not, that Oshawa plant had the tools to produce the pick up's for Canada and the Northern States drastically reducing transportation costs from Indiana and Mexico (which gets passed on to you for $1,500 on top of the MSRP). As a business owner I know full-well the types of things JT's gov't has pulled on businesses since election (increasing wages and taxes, increase fuel and energy costs, carbon tax, capital gains changes, family business changes etc.). They are very anti-business especially if you are in an industrial setting , more of a socialist/communist approach to business (gov't owns the businesses, you work for them, as Justin's father did with PetroCanada) If we had good policy and were a profitable place to do business, GM would not abandon Oshawa, they would restructure it. The reason he shot out a bunch of potential tax changes last week was a vain attempt to keep GM in Oshawa, but it wasn't enough. While GM will continue to expand it's Autonomous R&D in the USA, Canada is stuck looking to feed 1,400 people that now are out of work directly due to the previous Ontario Liberals and the current Federal Liberals policies. Not saying Liberals are bad people, most of my family are liberal, but JT's Liberals have the worst economic sense I have ever seen in my 35+ years of being in business. Harper's Cons had some bad policy too but I guarantee the story would differ. Politics is very important, it controls every aspect of our lives and all major business decisions and we should be free to discuss it as we feel fit, in a respectful and courteous manor without hating on each other. 

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