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C6Bill Enthusiast

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I will say this, Ram has always been good at Initial Quality. It is long term where I have my concern with them. I've driven a few that were 2 or 3 years old. They didn't held up well, but that is just my opinion.

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csckickass
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Well folks, I did it. After all the failed attempts at the Chevy dealer I traded it in for a 2015 Ram 1500 Larame. I have to agree with the other folks on here that have done the same thing, it was th

mafd2
mafd2

Apparently you and the other customer reps don't care. If you or GM would care y'all would put more effort in the matter. Just coming on the forum and stating the same repetitive posts and being a 3

DALaws
DALaws

Well I have some good news and bad news about my truck vibrations. Good news is that my truck has a significantly less vibration at speed. The bad news is my truck has significantly less vibration. Fo

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LongrangeLauber Senior Enthusiast

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I will say this, Ram has always been good at Initial Quality. It is long term where I have my concern with them. I've driven a few that were 2 or 3 years old. They didn't held up well, but that is just my opinion.

You're scaring me now lol

 

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C6Bill Enthusiast

C6Bill

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LOL

 

Not to worry, unlike most people on the internet I have actually been wrong once or twice in my life :)

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tnchevy Senior Enthusiast

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I also own a Fiat product, a Jeep Grand Cherokee that is almost 4 years old and 30k miles and has held up just fine. It has had a ton of recalls and parts replaced because of the recalls but has never given us a problem.

TheFactor Enthusiast

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You're scaring me now lol

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Don't be scared it's just another opinion lol . There's folks that wouldn't be caught dead in GM products fords , Rams and so on . Here's a better story for you when I was buying my new Ram I was waiting to go into finance hanging out in the service department drinking a complimentary celebration coffee lol . A gentleman was sitting next to me when my salesman came back with a owners manual and extra set of keys while I waiting since they were so busy . Anyway the guy next to me asked what I bought and I Said a new Ram q-cab and he smiled and replied your going to love it and he pointed at another Ram on the lift and said that was his getting the oil changed and has had it for five years and all he's done is change the oil and plugs . Never had a ounce of trouble and liked it so much he bought another new one but still kept this one lol said he just couldn't part with it .

Hope that cheers you up lol :)

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Fabrian Enthusiast

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I truly hope there's a resolution to this problem for you guys. I bought a 2015 crewcab short box 5.3 June 15th. I had been back and forth to the dealer more times than I can remember and certainly more times than I've ever been collectively in my life, and I've been leasing and owning new vehicles for over 20 years.

 

I went to Dodge last week and traded my Silverado with 3400 miles in for a new 2015 Ram.. I had enough.. From June 15th up until last week I did nothing but go back and forth to the dealer or was on the phone with GM. I have no issue whatsoever with the Ram and am really, really happy with it.

 

I've worked in the automotive industry for decades. GM has always had their issues, and maybe in my older age I was being hopeful, but nothing has changed. They still deliver troubled products as is blatantly apparent. GM should be ashamed of themselves to be quite frank.

 

I wish you all the best with this nonsense. Hopefully GM does the right thing eventually.

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I truly hope there's a resolution to this problem for you guys. I bought a 2015 crewcab short box 5.3 June 15th. I had been back and forth to the dealer more times than I can remember and certainly more times than I've ever been collectively in my life, and I've been leasing and owning new vehicles for over 20 years.

 

I went to Dodge last week and traded my Silverado with 3400 miles in for a new 2015 Ram.. I had enough.. From June 15th up until last week I did nothing but go back and forth to the dealer or was on the phone with GM. I have no issue whatsoever with the Ram and am really, really happy with it.

 

I've worked in the automotive industry for decades. GM has always had their issues, and maybe in my older age I was being hopeful, but nothing has changed. They still deliver troubled products as is blatantly apparent. GM should be ashamed of themselves to be quite frank.

 

I wish you all the best with this nonsense. Hopefully GM does the right thing eventually.

Just curious, I wonder how much all of you that went and traded in brand new trucks, what was your loss? I had a 2014 Ram and unfortunately did not like it enough to keep. TIA!

Fabrian Enthusiast

Fabrian

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You cannot put a price on sanity ;)

In the end, I really lost nothing. My payment is the same.

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Jesse Davidson Enthusiast

Jesse Davidson

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Just curious, I wonder how much all of you that went and traded in brand new trucks, what was your loss? I had a 2014 Ram and unfortunately did not like it enough to keep. TIA!

I went to Jannell Ford, and they offered me 32,000 based when deducting 7000 in incentives and another 7,000 for the full first years worth of depreciation I should have been offered 44,000-45,000 based upon my truck. so approximately 26% extra or 12,000-13,000. but thats just my experience

TheFactor Enthusiast

TheFactor

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Just curious, I wonder how much all of you that went and traded in brand new trucks, what was your loss? I had a 2014 Ram and unfortunately did not like it enough to keep. TIA!

Looks like you jumped from the frying pan to the fire , just saying . If you've got a vibrator/shaker you have my deepest sympathy .

You cannot put a price on sanity ;)In the end, I really lost nothing. My payment is the same.

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Bdkfl Enthusiast

Bdkfl

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Looks like you jumped from the frying pan to the fire , just saying . If you've got a vibrator/shaker you have my deepest sympathy .

 

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GM agreed to replace our vehicle, we're out test driving a Sierra as we speak. It vibrates in between 70-80 MPH. Going back to try another ?
TheFactor Enthusiast

TheFactor

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GM agreed to replace our vehicle, we're out test driving a Sierra as we speak. It vibrates in between 70-80 MPH. Going back to try another [emoji58]

Good luck man !!

Just remember some have developed the vibration later .

 

 

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Jesse Davidson Enthusiast

Jesse Davidson

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GM agreed to replace our vehicle, we're out test driving a Sierra as we speak. It vibrates in between 70-80 MPH. Going back to try another

Good Luck with the drives, don't kill the dealer on their whole fleet :P haha, and remember what TheFactor said above

Bdkfl Enthusiast

Bdkfl

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Good luck man !!

Just remember some have developed the vibration later .

 

 

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Ours developed the vibration at 6,000 Miles, so we're ready for that too. We've gone from A to Z with this problem so we're very aware. Thanks :)

LongrangeLauber Senior Enthusiast

LongrangeLauber

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Ours developed the vibration at 6,000 Miles, so we're ready for that too. We've gone from A to Z with this problem so we're very aware. Thanks :)

Didn't notice mine toll about 15k

 

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