Shake or Vibration Issues

Badass69 · July 16, 2016

I went from the Tundra to GM so I could write a book about Tundra issues but sorry to say I did not post on the Tundra Forum. For the most part my Tundra was reliable and resale wasn't bad. Handling and towing way below average and fuel economy towing is a joke. I towed a travel trailer to Alaska and back and had a miserable trip. Carried 12 gallons extra gas and had to use it more than once. The fuel mapping is way off because the truck wants to run high R's (no useable torque) and 6-8 mpg often the result. Even using the select shifting is was almost impossible to drive at peak torque of about 3600, don't hold me to that # it's been a few years might have been 3400. And hills or God forbid having to slow down for traffic and then...try to recover, forget it. When I returned I provided my dealer with a scathing critique and lots of detail including pictures. Toyota flew 2 guys in and spent 2 days with my truck only to report "working as designed". And the 16's are still basically the same setup.

I had purchased a trailer with aluminum frame and weight of 4150 dry, never over 5500 during the trip. I also towed a snowmobile trailer that was about 4,000 and other trailers that were lighter. My quick summary conclusion is that Toyota still doesn't understand truck engines. Engine and transmission mapping are bad but the basic engine power band is more "carlike". Great drag racing but that's about it.

Bingo... they have no torque.. and they aren't impressive empty either. Mine loaded with maybe 800 lbs of gear and stock size 10 ply tires is an utter dog.... 10 plies made a huge difference over the stock p rated Michelins.. first truck I noticed that especially staying with the exact stock size. My employees 2014 5.3 Silverado ( also with 10 plies and probably more weight in the back) doesn't feel any different to drive to me than the Tundra... so where all this complaining about power comes from is beyond me. I drive a 15 6.2 and it skull drags a Tundra no contest... Oddly the only truck I have driven beyond my old 05 Sierra that has a driveline vibration about 75 mph is the Tundra... I should take it in and bitch but I honestly don't care. Toyota's service here is a joke so it's not worth the effort either... I can't bothered with a service writer and department full of guys that can't speak English. Next dealership is a 2.5 hour drive... for more non English speaking goombas lol.

If I could find vibrating K2XX I would like to see what it's like. We test drove a bunch of low mile trades finding that 14 for my one guy to run and not one of them vibrated... so that couldn't have been the reason they were dumped.

Neither of my F150s vibrated... nor did my Titan or my Ram. The Titan had some serious problems and wallowed like a boat in the ocean and would take off on you on the highway.. But it was just one lemon amongst a bunch of trouble free trucks... what I get for a clean low mile certified pre owned used lol

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Edited July 16, 2016 by 1994Vmax

Jesse Davidson · July 16, 2016

I didn't say I had trouble stopping....I had trailer brakes and a controller. You must have read that into my comment about "slowing for traffic and trying to recover". Issue is-lose momentum and try to get back up to cruising speed.

And I didn't mean to infer that everything else was rosy. There were three or four recalls and several issues that Toyota wouldn't fix. Terrible infotainment system and Nav not as good as GM by a bunch! Strange very hard downshift and clunk infrequently. Handling not as good as GM, etc. etc. Drivetrain reliability was OK and nothing broke while I owned it. I would say the same about my 14 & 16 GM trucks and frankly don't think Toyota is even close. But if a vibrator is your only criteria the Toyota may be the best truck. But then if you don't tow-buy a midsize and save some money. The Ridgeline might be worth a try. All of the trucks seem to have some issues, although GM may lead in %. But this is getting off topic.

My 2016 had a suspension related vibration at high speed that GM/Dealer wouldn't fix. I was lucky and after trying rear spring clamps figured out that the issue was U bolt related. I spent $40 and fixed mine with 9/16" (larger diameter/more torque) replacement U bolts. This also got rid of some driveline slop and now the shocks work like they should.

Sorry, guess I did read into that. Can I ask what year the truck was? was it an '07? They seem ti be the worst year that Toyota had, and gasp say it ain't so, they had a vibration issue in '07. I have absolutely no desire for a mid-size truck, so as of right now, Tundra is in my opinion the best truck. And GM does have the highest percentage of issues, its not even close... but thats another topic for another day

Bingo... they have no torque.. and they aren't impressive empty either. Mine loaded with maybe 800 lbs of gear and stock size 10 ply tires is an utter dog.... My employees 2014 5.3 Silverado ( also eith 10 plies and probably more weight in the back) doesn't feel any different to drive to me than that thing... so where all this complaining about power comes from is beyond me. I drive a 15 6.2 and it skull drags a Tundra no contest... Oddly the only truck I have driven beyond my old 05 Sierra that has a driveline vibration about 75 mph is the Tundra... I should take it in and bitch but I honestly don't care. Toyota's service here is a joke so it's not worth the effort either... I can't bothered with a service writer and department full of guys that can't speak English.

If I could find vibrating K2XX I would like to see what it's like. We test drove a bunch of low mile trades finding that 14 for my one guy to run and not one of them vibrated... so that couldn't have been the reason they were dumped.

Neither of my F150s vibrated... nor did my Titan or my Ram. The Titan had some serious problems and wallowed like a boat in the ocean and would take off on you on the highway.. But it was just one lemon amongst a bunch of trouble free trucks... what I get for a clean low mile certified pre owned used lol

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if it was an '07 they did have a vibration issue that year

Badass69 · July 16, 2016

No the Tundra is a 2015.... mind you beyond sheet metal it's an 07 anyway lol.

There it is in all its glory.

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Edited July 16, 2016 by 1994Vmax

Jesse Davidson · July 16, 2016

No the Tundra is a 2015.... mind you beyond sheet metal it's an 07 anyway lol.

There it is in all its glory.

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yes, they didnt change the underlying design, but they may have altered the way they manufacture them. The only year that I can find vibration as a real problem is in 2007. I have found the odd 1 here or there since 07, but no threads dedicated to it like that year. Sharp truck though, I like it

Badass69 · July 16, 2016

Cool.. well when you get your buyback you can sell it off and buy it lol.

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Jesse Davidson · July 16, 2016

Cool.. well when you get your buyback you can sell it off and buy it lol.

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I'd consider it, but you're too far away.... and I want Black, although that Blue is a pretty good looking color on that truck.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Jesse D

C6Bill · July 16, 2016

I still think the best truck for you is a Ford Jesse, you like all the bells and whistles and Ford has them, lots of them.

plainvanilla · July 17, 2016

hey guys, sort of the new guy here. I am not inclined to read all of the 600 plus pages in this thread but I have read several pages and was wondering if anyone can please give me the Cliffs Notes on the suspension vibration issue?

My new 16 Crew Cab 4X4 Z71 has under 500 miles on it and most of it has been at 75 mph on highway and it's a smooth driving truck. I am not feeling anything like what some of you are describing.

thanks for taking the time to get me up to speed

Edited July 18, 2016 by plainvanilla

Jesse Davidson · July 18, 2016

hey guys, sort of the new guy here. I am not inclined to read all of the 600 plus pages in this thread but I have read several pages and was wondering if anyone can please give me the Cliffs Notes on the suspension vibration issue?

My new 16 Crew Cab 4X4 Z71 has under 500 miles on it and most of it has been at 75 mph on highway and it's a smooth driving truck. I am not feeling anything like what some of you are describing.

thanks for taking the time to get me up to speed

To be honest, if you think your truck is smooth, you don't want to know about it. You'll start looking for it and drive yourself insane with it

TheFactor · July 18, 2016

Are you a member of many Tundra forums ? I am and I don't see much complaining at all. The vast majority of threads are about having fun with their trucks.

I agree the Tundra is a great truck

I'm very very happy with my Ram though with 10000 miles and not one issue or even a rattle . My shake-a Rado started rattling with about 600 miles I'm guessing because of the vibrations and shaking .

I must admit the Chevy is still the sexiest and best looking truck on the market to date but that's were it stops . I don't care how good it looks that truck gave me daily headaches.

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CBettis357 · July 18, 2016

Hello, I am new here and I just purchased a 2016 Silverado 1500 Z71 LT. My wife and I were riding to Walmart today on a slight incline on the highway and she asked me what is that vibration or studder? I have felt it before but thought it was just the road. It almost feels like the transmission and the torque converter not locking up all the way in my opinion. I have to take mine in tomorrow for some factory paint defects to get repaired so I will talk to a tech and see if there is any idea. I like this forum and look forward to being active here. My truck has less than 400 miles on it right now.

C6Bill · July 18, 2016

hey guys, sort of the new guy here. I am not inclined to read all of the 600 plus pages in this thread but I have read several pages and was wondering if anyone can please give me the Cliffs Notes on the suspension vibration issue?

My new 16 Crew Cab 4X4 Z71 has under 500 miles on it and most of it has been at 75 mph on highway and it's a smooth driving truck. I am not feeling anything like what some of you are describing.

thanks for taking the time to get me up to speed

Congrats on the new ride, and in this case the last thing you'd want is to get up to speed on this problem. Go enjoy your truck

Brianibew · July 18, 2016

Hello, I am new here and I just purchased a 2016 Silverado 1500 Z71 LT. My wife and I were riding to Walmart today on a slight incline on the highway and she asked me what is that vibration or studder? I have felt it before but thought it was just the road. It almost feels like the transmission and the torque converter not locking up all the way in my opinion. I have to take mine in tomorrow for some factory paint defects to get repaired so I will talk to a tech and see if there is any idea. I like this forum and look forward to being active here. My truck has less than 400 miles on it right now.

The 14s & 15s had issues with torque converters doing exactly what your describing. I thought I read they came out with a redesigned torque converter to fix the issue. Sad to hear the 16s have it too.

Chrismal · July 18, 2016

Update is that I have filed a Lemon Law complaint with BBB and got a call from GM, after initially talking to GM customer service and being told more repair attempts before anything more can be done. Since lemon law here is 3 visits for same problem with an in writing notice for a final repair and the truck was bought on a Friday and then spent Sat, Mon and Tues in the shop. I let them know that if they will offer a buy back, I would be happy to purchase another GM product. If they follow through to the lemon law route, there will be no GM product in my future and that my wife's 2014 Acadia, when the time comes will not be replaced with a GM product nor will I purchase or recommend a GM product. It is the customer service and response to the problem that came with my brand new truck that will determine if I remain a loyal GM customer, or take my business elsewhere.

GM is reviewing my case this week. We will see where it goes from here.