Shake or Vibration Issues

[Silverado-Hareek]

Whether you believe/use or disbelieve/don't use nitrogen in your tires that is completely up to you. But don't sit there and tell people in your own scientific belief that it's a waste of money. There are purposes that nitrogen is used in tires. It's an upgrade just like an upgrade in anything else you might want to add to your truck.

 

By reducing the percentage of oxygen, water vapor and other gases in your tires from 22% to 7% or lower, your tires will maintain proper pressure longer than if you use plain old air. For example, with 95% nitrogen in your tires, they retain optimal pressure three to four times longer. (Scientific)

 

More Predictable Pressure Fluctuation. NASCAR teams use nitrogen so they can more accurately predict tire pressure fluctuation. Regular compressed air can fluctuate considerably when water vapor is present. TPMS Sensors have improved performance when nitrogen is used. The temp fluctuations are minimized.

 

The bottom line point I am trying to make is the fact that it has it's benefits and of course cost....and so does every other upgrade.

 

...and oh by the way....if you have "nitrogen" in your tires and they have a noticeable fluctuation from driving to the corner market and back....guess what...you don't have the correct amount of nitrogen in your tires.....the process of eliminating/replacing oxygen did not work correctly.......unless you drove there like driving at Bristol Motor Speedway, then by all means there should be a fluctuation.

 

I'm not saying that scientifically there's no advantage. But we're also not driving our trucks 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times. My point is the advantages of nitrogen are irrelevant and un-recognized at the consumer level. But feel free to keep buying into the propaganda and wasting your money. At the end of the day, we will be replacing our tires at the exact same time and you still need to check your pressure once a month until then and account for weather changes affecting pressure. In other words, you are wasting money on nitrogen....it's not giving you any advantage over the guy without nitrogen.

 

Here's some more reading material on why it's a waste of your money: http://www.wheels.ca/why-nitrogen-in-your-tires-is-a-waste-of-money/

Edited September 12, 2014 by Silverado-Hareek

[Strykers_Inc]

 

I'm not saying that scientifically there's no advantage. But we're also not driving our trucks 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times. My point is the advantages of nitrogen are irrelevant and un-recognized at the consumer level. But feel free to keep buying into the propaganda and wasting your money. At the end of the day, we will be replacing our tires at the exact same time and you still need to check your pressure once a month until then and account for weather changes affecting pressure. In other words, you are wasting money on nitrogen....it's not giving you any advantage over the guy without nitrogen.

 

Here's some more reading material on why it's a waste of your money: http://www.wheels.ca/why-nitrogen-in-your-tires-is-a-waste-of-money/

 

Yep, we can play this game all day. You evidently reacted to my statement but I don't believe you read it. And yet again you are trying to tell people that no matter what proof there is out there, your opinion is the most important/correct.

 

Propaganda: defined as ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause;

 

I am not the one spreading propaganda sir! I merely made a statement that regardless of which side your on its just an upgrade.

 

"I'm not saying that scientifically there's no advantage. But we're also not driving our trucks 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times." Is that like a double negative. Meaning the science behind this only is relevant to trucks that do 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times? So they get the advantage and nobody else possibly could?.......That's like me saying the link to the article you added actually doesn't apply here in the United States because its from Canada. Only Canadians don't get an advantage....lol...

 

.....regardless that has nothing to do with any of this...the example was to bring your attention to the fact our trucks are extremely sensitive to many things, tire pressure fluctuating drastically can and will have an effect on your driving. As I stated...driving to the corner market it makes no difference, but commuting back and forth to work 50 miles a day will change the way the truck handles.....period! If you can't feel the difference in a 4psi change in tire pressure after 25 miles, your argument is null.

 

Let me make myself perfectly clear. I am middle of the road on this. I have two sets without and one set with (Don't ask me why, lets just say its scientific). There is a difference in how fast heat in the tires will change the pressure, and how fast your driving experience will change for the good or the bad depending on the start pressure and the mean pressure. My truck loves 34 psi....so staying as close to that on a general purpose trip of 25 to 35 miles (say within 2psi) I feel no change. Nitrogen does that for me. In using plain old dry air this same trip usually gives me a 4 psi change with a noticeable change in driveability. Like I stated, these trucks are sensitive and you can definitely feel changes.

 

Checking your air pressure monthly is a good practice, but I can also tell you I don't do it anymore in the nitrogen set. I have noticed in the last 6 months almost zero change in my nitrogen set, winter is where the real test of pressure takes hold.

 

Tire wear is irrelevant...to me. And if you want to go the wager route, I will definitely make the bet you will be replacing your OEM tires before me.....that sir is a guarantee!

Edited September 12, 2014 by Strykers_Inc

[Silverado-Hareek]

 

Yep, we can play this game all day. You evidently reacted to my statement but I don't believe you read it. And yet again you are trying to tell people that no matter what proof there is out there, your opinion is the most important/correct.

 

Propaganda: defined as ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause;

 

I am not the one spreading propaganda sir! I merely made a statement that regardless of which side your on its just an upgrade.

 

"I'm not saying that scientifically there's no advantage. But we're also not driving our trucks 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times." Is that like a double negative. Meaning the science behind this only is relevant to trucks that do 200+ MPH in a giant circle 500 times? So they get the advantage and nobody else possibly could?.......That's like me saying the link to the article you added actually doesn't apply here in the United States because its from Canada. Only Canadians don't get an advantage....lol...

 

.....regardless that has nothing to do with any of this...the example was to bring your attention to the fact our trucks are extremely sensitive to many things, tire pressure fluctuating drastically can and will have an effect on your driving. As I stated...driving to the corner market it makes no difference, but commuting back and forth to work 50 miles a day will change the way the truck handles.....period! If you can't feel the difference in a 4psi change in tire pressure after 25 miles, your argument is null.

 

Let me make myself perfectly clear. I am middle of the road on this. I have two sets without and one set with (Don't ask me why, lets just say its scientific). There is a difference in how fast heat in the tires will change the pressure, and how fast your driving experience will change for the good or the bad depending on the start pressure and the mean pressure. My truck loves 34 psi....so staying as close to that on a general purpose trip of 25 to 35 miles (say within 2psi) I feel no change. Nitrogen does that for me. In using plain old dry air this same trip usually gives me a 4 psi change with a noticeable change in driveability. Like I stated, these trucks are sensitive and you can definitely feel changes.

 

Checking your air pressure monthly is a good practice, but I can also tell you I don't do it anymore in the nitrogen set. I have noticed in the last 6 months almost zero change in my nitrogen set, winter is where the real test of pressure takes hold.

 

Tire wear is irrelevant...to me. And if you want to go the wager route, I will definitely make the bet you will be replacing your OEM tires before me.....that sir is a guarantee!

 

 

haha for someone who accuses one of acting like their opinion is the most important one/correct, you certainly go on to do the same thing and proclaim a lot of certainties based on YOUR opinions. But I digress. Agree to disagree on this one because we aren't going to change each other's minds. I have nitrogen in my tires and I notice no difference than when I had regular air. You obviously have a different perception or a more sensitive truck. My pressure starts at 35 psi and will get to 38-39 after prolonged driving on the interstate with nitrogen in the tires. With air, same exact readings. In both instances, the truck felt exactly the same.

 

 

Oh and 200+ mph in a circle 500 times = NASCAR. You missed the sarcasm referencing your NASCAR statement apparently.

[Silverado-Hareek]

I guess my original post wasn't very clear. My point on nitrogen is simply that it's not worth the upgrade. You are paying money for no realized benefit. I understand it's important to NASCAR and airplanes and people that check their tires once every presidential election. But for the people that monitor their tire pressure properly, filling up with nitrogen will be a waste of money and limit where you can fill up. I can go down the road and pump air into my tires for 50 cents. If I want nitrogen I need to schedule an appointment with the dealer. And even then, after having nitrogen, if the pressure fluctuates then what I need to make another appointment to get nitrogen again?

 

My argument is don't waste your money on nitrogen. Buy a decent tire gauge and check your tire pressure once a month like you should and save your money for something else.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Silverado-Hareek

[Strykers_Inc]

Agreed and Concur and disagree all at the same time.....

Edited September 12, 2014 by Strykers_Inc

[iLlama]

So has anyone who have received a buyback and got another 2014 Sierra/Silverado experienced the vibration on your new ride?

Edited September 12, 2014 by iLlama

[KARNUT]

I only have to put air in my tires once a year, in the winter I run my tires low for ride comfort in my cars and trucks. Once the outside air gets cold and the light comes on. In the summer I just let some out, about 2 lbs. Unless I run over a nail thats happen maybe twice. They may gain 2 lbs on the interstate when they warm up, that's in Texas at 75 MPH at 95 to 100 degrees.

[mdes0]

HEy Folks, I've kept up with this topic for months so I know how previlent this issue seems to be so imagine my suprise when I was reading through the complians for the 2014 Sierra at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ and only found one vibration compliant. Why aren't people logging this problem with the government?

[keakar]

HEy Folks, I've kept up with this topic for months so I know how previlent this issue seems to be so imagine my suprise when I was reading through the complians for the 2014 Sierra at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ and only found one vibration compliant. Why aren't people logging this problem with the government?

because as long as they do a buy back it isn't recorded as a defect and they keep their ability to make claims of best truck.

 

a buy back customer is a happy satisfied customer on paper because the complaint was resolved to the customers satisfaction so that is how its done and kept on the down low

Edited September 12, 2014 by keakar

[Guest]

So has anyone who have received a buyback and got another 2014 Sierra/Silverado experienced the vibration on your new ride?

Yep

[2strokesmoke]

It is official, my truck 2014 Sierra crew 6'-6" box 5.3l All terrain 4x4 Z71 tow package 20" G/Y SRA tires, is being bought back!

After numerous attempts with tires, driveshafts, rear axle, and testing with engineer nothing corrected my vibrations at 40mph. My truck was tested in excess of 1000 miles with no fix. My engineer, off record thinks that this vibration is a stacking effect of machined internal parts out of tolerance. Now the harmonics, frequency, and energy can not be stoped or fixed.

My gut feeling says it was the transmission right from the begining. I started legal actions a while back and would have not been this far along on my own without help!

GM and their dealers treated me like I was a criminal, and they refused to help me with my new truck I bought from them saying nothing was wrong with your vehicle.

Guess what I am a tech! And this bull**it did not sit well with me. In conclusion I filed a report with NHSTA about all the issues I had with my new truck.

I have always supported GM by buying their trucks, even when they were on their face nearly out of business and bankrupt. But after how I was dealt with by this mob like company, they deserve to hear from us one at a time, and with the help of legal representation!

I am sorry if I upset those that have no issues with their trucks, but for us with real issues we have been stroked by the dealers and GM too long.

My buy back award is my way out of this mess!

[iLlama]

It is official, my truck 2014 Sierra crew 6'-6" box 5.3l All terrain 4x4 Z71 tow package 20" G/Y SRA tires, is being bought back!

After numerous attempts with tires, driveshafts, rear axle, and testing with engineer nothing corrected my vibrations at 40mph. My truck was tested in excess of 1000 miles with no fix. My engineer, off record thinks that this vibration is a stacking effect of machined internal parts out of tolerance. Now the harmonics, frequency, and energy can not be stoped or fixed.

My gut feeling says it was the transmission right from the begining. I started legal actions a while back and would have not been this far along on my own without help!

GM and their dealers treated me like I was a criminal, and they refused to help me with my new truck I bought from them saying nothing was wrong with your vehicle.

Guess what I am a tech! And this bull**it did not sit well with me. In conclusion I filed a report with NHSTA about all the issues I had with my new truck.

I have always supported GM by buying their trucks, even when they were on their face nearly out of business and bankrupt. But after how I was dealt with by this mob like company, they deserve to hear from us one at a time, and with the help of legal representation!

I am sorry if I upset those that have no issues with their trucks, but for us with real issues we have been stroked by the dealers and GM too long.

My buy back award is my way out of this mess!

 

How are they buying it back? Are they giving you trade assist towards a new gmc/chevy or are you getting "cash" back?

[RocketmanJP]

I tried to convey in my first post that the only common denomiator in my truck vs the others with the same issue is the transmission. I have a different engine, different driveshaft, different rear axle, different tires & size, different wheels & a different tune. I towed my boat today which is when it seems worse. At 70 i shifted to neutral & watched tach go to idle. Shimmy didnt stop until truck slowed to 60. I tried this twice. It has to be something in the rotating assy of the transmission.

[keakar]

So has anyone who have received a buyback and got another 2014 Sierra/Silverado experienced the vibration on your new ride?

yep, several people have followed the advice of the deniers who believed because their truck was trouble free that all trucks are fine and we are just a bunch of cry babies over a handful of bad trucks, well its a lot of bad trucks out there and the vibrations even show up in trouble free trucks after 10,000 or 15,000 miles then they start developing the vibrations too.

 

I actually agree with them that not all trucks are bad and the good ones are great trucks, but I don't agree with their attitudes of sticking your head in the sand and trying to pretend GM doesn't have some serious issues going on with a lot of these trucks and they cant seam to fix it or figure out whats wrong with them.

 

the only person I would recommend to go buy one of these trucks now would be someone I really hated.

Edited September 12, 2014 by keakar

[RocketmanJP]

A few other notes i forgot to mention. With my tune i dont have V-4 anymore either. You woukd think the dealer of the first buy back would ship that truck to GM & the engineers would jump on finding the problem & getting us a fix. Guess not!