Seat Movement Issues

[Crf450r420]

Asked my dealer to fix the seat for the second time, but they again just left the clamps on the seat. I know it works this way, but I want it done right. I'll be trying the other dealer in the area if this happens a third time. Three strikes your out.

 

As far as buying a new truck. These are the most complicated trucks yet and will have more areas to have issues, so to have the most issues ever with your truck is not shocking. Some of these issues are just stupid and that is the part that sucks.

 

First take the truck for a overnight test drive after you work your way into a better tire in the deal as these tires are junk. Just look at the stock vs the Michelin ratings on tirerack (links below). Next the factory radio reception is not good, so unless you don't use modern media it could be an issue to you. The info system is slow, but it works okay. The lights are weak, but they have an upgrade to cover that already. The seat also, and with a newer truck it should be right already, unless it's a lot lizard. Most of all you have a warranty and laws to cover you. The odds of you having a total bad luck really is unlikely. There are more people on here without issues than with and there are way more trucks on the road than members here. Keep in mind people come here to find help when they have issues, but don't much to rave about it much unless they are the enthusiast type. In other words you are getting a filtered look at the community of owners by coming here.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=LTX+A%2FT+2&partnum=755TR0LTXAT2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2014&autoModel=Silverado%201500%204wd&autoModClar=Double%20Cab

 

Under surveys you will see 7.9 would buy again against the stock tires 3.9 would buy again. This is not just from owners of this truck it's just the tires are not good.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+SR-A&partnum=755HR0WSRA&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2014&autoModel=Silverado%201500%204wd&autoModClar=Double%20Cab

[pcmotor]

This is what I found regarding the dealer fix and seems to be really recent: http://vitalysmobileautodiagnostics.com/archives/6522. Seems like the black piece will do the trick(similar to what others are doing with the hose clamps). It also looks like you can put this piece on without taking the whole seat apart as well. It seems like they are taking the seat apart just to add the grease under the white pivot blocks. The other part, the white round shim washer is already on my truck from the factory. So I might just add the black part as preventative maintenance.

 

I had brought my truck into the dealer once before for the seat movement and they told me they had no fix. Today I had about all I could take of the dam 'Lateral' seat movement and was just about to grab the flashlight and tools and do some investigating of my own. Glad I read this post first.....although I went through about 8 pages before I jumped to the end and discovered that there was a fix. I suggest a moderator move all the possible resolutions/fixes to the front page....with the most successful one at the top. Scheduling an appointment with local dealer as soon as I can to get this resolved....was driving me nuts!

[Dnt]

Just curious as I have seen a lot of off hand comments about moderators needing to do this and that. How much do the moderators get compensated for their work here? Is there a place where you can donate some dollars to support the forum and make specific requests for extra work from a moderator if they are working for free?

[Aznative]

Asked my dealer to fix the seat for the second time, but they again just left the clamps on the seat. I know it works this way, but I want it done right. I'll be trying the other dealer in the area if this happens a third time. Three strikes your out.

 

As far as buying a new truck. These are the most complicated trucks yet and will have more areas to have issues, so to have the most issues ever with your truck is not shocking. Some of these issues are just stupid and that is the part that sucks.

 

First take the truck for a overnight test drive after you work your way into a better tire in the deal as these tires are junk. Just look at the stock vs the Michelin ratings on tirerack (links below). Next the factory radio reception is not good, so unless you don't use modern media it could be an issue to you. The info system is slow, but it works okay. The lights are weak, but they have an upgrade to cover that already. The seat also, and with a newer truck it should be right already, unless it's a lot lizard. Most of all you have a warranty and laws to cover you. The odds of you having a total bad luck really is unlikely. There are more people on here without issues than with and there are way more trucks on the road than members here. Keep in mind people come here to find help when they have issues, but don't much to rave about it much unless they are the enthusiast type. In other words you are getting a filtered look at the community of owners by coming here.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=LTX+A%2FT+2&partnum=755TR0LTXAT2&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2014&autoModel=Silverado%201500%204wd&autoModClar=Double%20Cab

 

Under surveys you will see 7.9 would buy again against the stock tires 3.9 would buy again. This is not just from owners of this truck it's just the tires are not good.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+SR-A&partnum=755HR0WSRA&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2014&autoModel=Silverado%201500%204wd&autoModClar=Double%20Cab

 

Upgrade for lights?? as in head lights??, I have the standard head lights and they are not near as bright as my 07 and 11 silverado, is there a fix for that from GM or after market??

 

I have 23000 on my Goodyear Wranglers that came with a truck, so far they are wearing quite well and holding up well on off road rocks etc. I had been a fan of wranglers on my 2011 silverado till had bad experience with second set (discount said they changed their tire production) they sucked so I went with Michelon, but so far these wranglers seem to be back to their old standards?

Edited February 26, 2015 by Aznative

[Kerrslight]

What upgrade for the lights are you talking about?

[f8l vnm]

just got mine back , seat seems to be fine and no movement.

Fingers crossed it dosent come back again

[Crf450r420]

There is a thread about it. German light and BCM flashed for more voltage. It's new so not going to be common knowledge at all dealers yet. Not sure how much it helps.

[pcmotor]

Yep, this was my Service Write-up from today (03-02-15) at Tustin Buick GMC Dealer in Tustin CA (Anthony Razo = Service Writer). I will call myself the Customer....

 

Customer - Rattle in door / Dealer - You have tinted windows

Customer - Lateral Seat Movement / Dealer - No Operation Problem

Customer - Clunky & False shifts / Dealer - No Problem found

Customer - Vibration near 65 MPH / Dealer - No Problem at this time

Customer - Clunk when fast accelerating from a stop / Torque Leaf Springs

 

I'm so effin pissed right now and have totally lost all trust in GM. I called the dealer (Tustin Buick GMC in Tustin CA) on Thursday explaining the seat movement to Tony Razo who made it seam like he knew what I was talking about and scheduled for me to come in Monday 03-02-15. They had my truck all day and when I called to follow up they said they needed to keep it overnight to look at it more. Then 15 minutes later I got a call my truck was done. When I get to the dealer they hand me this pathetic excuse of an invoice and tell me they couldn't find anything and found nothing wrong. Then when I showed them the 'vitalysmobile' writeup for the seat fix, he tried telling me....oh...we know its an issue but the fix they were doing doesn't work so there not doing it anymore, but proceeded to copy the part numbers down from the article....what a bunch of bs...and if it was true then why couldn't he just tell me that over the phone when I called to schedule a fix for lateral seat movement. He then starting reading me the explanations on the invoice as if he was providing a totally legit justifications for why he couldn't find anything...really....tint was the reason they couldn't find a rattle on the door....I'm completely livid. Of course they didn't find any of the vibration issues, transmission issues or clunk heard when accelerating from a start because they never drove the vehicle. (14904 Miles in / 14904 Miles out)...wtf!. Then he proceeded to tell me that my 33" aftermarket tires voided my warranty. If there is a class action suit going on that people know about please let me know......GM thinks we all have STUPID written on our foreheads. Better call Sol!.....Vent over!

[BuddyS]

Yep, this was my Service Write-up from today (03-02-15) at Tustin Buick GMC Dealer in Tustin CA (Anthony Razo = Service Writer). I will call myself the Customer....

 

Customer - Rattle in door / Dealer - You have tinted windows

Customer - Lateral Seat Movement / Dealer - No Operation Problem

Customer - Clunky & False shifts / Dealer - No Problem found

Customer - Vibration near 65 MPH / Dealer - No Problem at this time

Customer - Clunk when fast accelerating from a stop / Torque Leaf Springs

 

I'm so effin pissed right now and have totally lost all trust in GM. I called the dealer (Tustin Buick GMC in Tustin CA) on Thursday explaining the seat movement to Tony Razo who made it seam like he knew what I was talking about and scheduled for me to come in Monday 03-02-15. They had my truck all day and when I called to follow up they said they needed to keep it overnight to look at it more. Then 15 minutes later I got a call my truck was done. When I get to the dealer they hand me this pathetic excuse of an invoice and tell me they couldn't find anything and found nothing wrong. Then when I showed them the 'vitalysmobile' writeup for the seat fix, he tried telling me....oh...we know its an issue but the fix they were doing doesn't work so there not doing it anymore, but proceeded to copy the part numbers down from the article....what a bunch of bs...and if it was true then why couldn't he just tell me that over the phone when I called to schedule a fix for lateral seat movement. He then starting reading me the explanations on the invoice as if he was providing a totally legit justifications for why he couldn't find anything...really....tint was the reason they couldn't find a rattle on the door....I'm completely livid. Of course they didn't find any of the vibration issues, transmission issues or clunk heard when accelerating from a start because they never drove the vehicle. (14904 Miles in / 14904 Miles out)...wtf!. Then he proceeded to tell me that my 33" aftermarket tires voided my warranty. If there is a class action suit going on that people know about please let me know......GM thinks we all have STUPID written on our foreheads. Better call Sol!.....Vent over!

 

Bull, the dealers should be using PI1376 which was released 12-10-14. There is now way they can say this is not working, its too new. Other uses have said this worked for them. The dealers where doing something prior to the new PI release and I think it was just replacing the white pivot blocks and added new grease which didn't work for them. That is why many people used the hose clamps. Maybe the PI(preliminary release) is too preliminary for them or they are just being lazy and not checking the dealer network.

[pcmotor]

Ended up calling another dealer close by that is familiar with all the reported issues. Only one phone call, but extremely knowledgable and provided logical explanations to couple common issues and provided detail steps for diagnostic techniques for everything. Scheduling appt there as soon as schedule allows...and calling service manager at Tustin GMC to give them a piece of my mind...extremely pathetic and total lack of professionalism and service. Anyone in so-cal....don't take your truck to Tustin....trust me. i should have known better to leave my truck with them...some guy chewing them a new one for bringing his suv in 3 times for twilight issue that still wasn't fixed. They are definitely not doing things right over there. I'll report back about the seat fix after taking it in to the other dealer.

[Skeeter McSkeet]

Just curious as I have seen a lot of off hand comments about moderators needing to do this and that. How much do the moderators get compensated for their work here? Is there a place where you can donate some dollars to support the forum and make specific requests for extra work from a moderator if they are working for free?

You can become a supporting or lifetime member of the forum.

 

 

Don't know if I'm paranoid or not but my driver seat seems to lean to the left. I guess ill have them check it out when I go in next.

 

-Skeet

Edited March 6, 2015 by SkeeterMcSkeet

[f8l vnm]

You can become a supporting or lifetime member of the forum.

 

 

Don't know if I'm paranoid or not but my driver seat seems to lean to the left. I guess ill have them check it out when I go in next.

 

-Skeet

thats the first sign of your seat about to start moving and clicking .....

[Skeeter McSkeet]

thats the first sign of your seat about to start moving and clicking .....

Driving home today I could feel a click for the better use of words toward the back right side of the seat. I can also lean left and it moves down a little as well. Damnit man

 

 

-Skeet

[pm26]

If you have seat movement problem, ask for a really corpulent technician to check it out and to confirm. The seat is far more likely to move under a 300 lb guy than under a 150 lb one. Yes, I know this sounds ridiculous, but sometimes you need to be a little devious to prove your point.

Edited March 10, 2015 by pm26

[Skeeter McSkeet]

If you have seat movement problem, ask for a really corpulent technician to check it out and to confirm. The seat is far more likely to move under a 300 lb guy than under a 150 lb one. Yes, I know this sounds ridiculous, but sometimes you need to be a little devious to prove your point.

That's a good idea lol!

 

I originally thought my cousin that I bought the truck from (well over 300lbs) messed up the left side of the seat as I could hear it rubbing against the plastic trim for the seat controls. (He drove it around initially for me to test drive) After reading some and thinking about it, I'm sure far bigger bodies use these trucks, so I wrote him being the cause of the problem off lol.

 

I'm 5'8 170 lbs and I can tell I sit sideways toward the left now. Thought I was being paranoid, but I may not be after re-reading most of this thread. Now every time I get in, I feel like I can get comfortable in the seat.

 

Side note: I also noticed the bottom set of seat warmers aren't seeming to warm up like they did when I first got the truck. Turned them on this morning and my back was almost sweating with my butt still cold. Going to test them out a little bit this evening to see if it's an issue or not.

 

I'm due for my first oil change soon, so I'll ask about anything I have noticed then. I may come with a binder full of TSB's and forum threads printed out for them to look into lol.

 

 

-Skeet

Edited March 10, 2015 by SkeeterMcSkeet