GM cutting warranty and included maintenance in 2016

[BRay'sGirl]

Maybe I shouldn't...

 

There won't be any changes in sales - I believe.

 

Your sons & daughters & their kids will learn to deal with it. Even you guys knew about some (old) issues, more or less, but still bought a GM truck. People will be mad for a while, think about it, going back to normal. Always been like that.

[KARNUT]

Those that are sure that older is better, how many have driven those older vehicles the way they were built and equipped? Be interested in hearing how many actually drove on bias ply or belted tires. They were fine if that was all you knew, but, put someone in the car with bias ply tires than has only ever driven radials and see how far they get before stopping saying there is something reallly wrong with the front end. The car is all over the road.

Most make fun of the older movies where the driver is constantly sawing the wheel. You think they do it only for effect, but, it is mostly the way it was back then with bias ply tires.

If you want a real scary ride, put some bias ply tires on a newer car and take it out on the highway. Take a change of shorts though.

When I bought my barracuda new in 74 it came with 2 ply tires, what a hand full. Everybody pretty much was swervin mervin back then. I can remember easily smoking through two gears with those. That was with a 318, with a high rise and a three speed stick.

 

 

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[Jsdirt]

Thing was, in those days there wasn't anything better, so nobody cared. Nobody knew it COULD be better. When radials came to be, you just slapped them on your favorite set of wheels and enjoyed the newfound handling.

[Doug_Scott]

I am not really convinced that cars from 50's, 60's and early 70's were as good as some claim. Both of my grandfathers (two completely different backgrounds and living in different regions) treated cars the same ways. Buy them new, dump them before they were 24 months old. If they gave any real problems in warranty, dump them sooner. They both thought that cars would only cost more to maintain after 24 months than they would cost to replace. One was a Ford man, the other a GM man. They were also at different ends of the price scale as well. One bought base models, the other bought fully loaded models.

 

Simple, basic construction does not necessarily mean better. Humans have a tendency to fear the unknown, and due to that they resist change. If you have confidence in your ability to diagnose and repair electronics, you will accept the advancements as being a good thing.

 

Ever wonder why the "good old days" are not the current days? If they were so good, why did they change?

[Doug_Scott]

I think 2 people were killed "by" the faulty ignition switches. I think both of them were impaired (high/drunk)?

 

I think the earlier GMT800s had a "backup" vacuum pump to boost the brakes, I think they decided it was unnecessary and cut it.

 

People can't change their own tires, you really expect them to think about what they'd do if something went wrong?

 

Most of the deaths were due to air bags not being enabled once the key was turned off. The only reason they needed the air bag was that they panicked when the steering became harder and the brake pedal was hard. Both components still worked, but only if you kept your hands on the wheel, foot on the brake, and drove the car. Screeming with your hands over your face did not seem to work. As you can likely tell, this part really pisses me off. There is no reason driver training can't actually train the driver instead of just giving them the point and shoot instructions.