Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

well I hope that fixes 99% of the peoples problems. that makes it 10x easier to make my purchase

 

can you give us a little more information as to how you lock it open or remove it? is it as easy as removing a fuse in the main fuse box called flapper? sorry stupid question but I don't have the truck yet hard to visualize lol going out of town to pick it up this weekend

Edited by JT-IN-BAKO-CA
Posted (edited)

well I hope that fixes 99% of the peoples problems. that makes it 10x easier to make my purchase

 

can you give us a little more information as to how you lock it open or remove it? is it as easy as removing a fuse in the main fuse box called flapper? sorry stupid question but I don't have the truck yet hard to visualize lol going out of town to pick it up this weekend

 

Dont jump the gun on that purchase just yet. This is really the first time this flapper has been linked to the vibration issue that I can tell. It may solve some, or maybe none at all. I havent driven my truck to see for myself if this fixes it Im only going by what the service manager said.

 

There shouldnt be a fuse, it looks to be purely mechanincal and spring loaded, there should be square ends outside of the exhust pipe that you can use to rotate the flapper open. Put a hose clamp on the square end and lock it in place. I personally havent tried this, b/c I first learned of this flapper yesterday, but looking at the thread on the flapper and pictures it looks pretty straightforward.

Edited by Aboothlsu
Posted

This flapper seems hard to believe, but it's worth a shot. My vibration at HW speeds gets worse as the truck goes a while and warms up all the way thats for sure. I also feel the vibration in the floor and gas petal the most. Ya know...certainly could be that damn thing. Mine is going in tomorrow am, so I'll mention it as something I read. For what it's worth...I really like this new truck...and I mean everything about it. However, this whole vibration this is a HUGE deal braker for me. I will be thrilled if it's that stupid flap...with how easy it is to lock open with wire or a hose clamp. I'm anxios to hear from people who have pulled their exhaust and swapped to aftermarket...can anyone confirm this isn't an issue on thsoe trucks?

Posted (edited)

This flapper seems hard to believe, but it's worth a shot. My vibration at HW speeds gets worse as the truck goes a while and warms up all the way thats for sure. I also feel the vibration in the floor and gas petal the most. Ya know...certainly could be that damn thing. Mine is going in tomorrow am, so I'll mention it as something I read. For what it's worth...I really like this new truck...and I mean everything about it. However, this whole vibration this is a HUGE deal braker for me. I will be thrilled if it's that stupid flap...with how easy it is to lock open with wire or a hose clamp. I'm anxios to hear from people who have pulled their exhaust and swapped to aftermarket...can anyone confirm this isn't an issue on thsoe trucks?

 

It is plausible that it could create vibration, if its not opening properly or sticking, pressure could build slightly on the other side until it flaps open. Creating a sort of pulsing or surging as the pressure builds and is released repeatedly. That being said I am still a bit skeptical this is the smoking gun.

 

Im going to check the loaner truck i have and see if i can lock it open when i get home. That truck is a train wreck with the shimmies and shakes.

Edited by Aboothlsu
Posted

For what its worth, I was under the truck and right where the rear u joint is, it appears it has slung some grease around on the undercarriage. Not much, but defective u joints can cause major problems as well. . .Food for thought...

Posted

I have read through all 93 pages and have been reading from the get go, but can't for the life of me remember if anyone has chimed in here. Does anyone have this issue with the 3.08 rear end? I have the 3.42 as I think most of us do. My buddy has a 2014 with the 3.08 and his is as smooth as silk at all speeds.

Posted

For what it's worth, I bought the Range device that keeps the engine locked into V8 mode. I've had it for about 3 weeks and so far I have had no vibration. Now this could just be coincidence as the vibration seems to be random at best on "this" truck. But so far so good. Does anyone know if the torque converter act any differently or could it, if the vehicle is in V8 vs V4 mode? One last thing I'll add: I love this device! No hiccup or hesitation when pushing slightly on the pedal. That AFM is crap! So far milage has went down a tenth MPG. (I didn't buy the truck for fuel milage anyway....)

I believe when the engine is in v4 the torque converter does not fully lock up, at least that's the way my 08 was, I haven paid attention to my 14 to see. I could tell by watching the rpm on the highway and when it when to v4 the rpms went up 150 or so and stayed that way until it went back to v8

Posted

Mine has been bolted open for a couple thousand miles. Still vibrates.

Posted (edited)

It is hard to link an exhaust flapper valve to mechanical vibration. Mechanical vibration results from badly machined, badly assembled, badly balanced, or badly aligned parts in the the driveline, or badly balanced wheels, brake rotors, or improperly assembled wheel hubs. A lot of possibilities, but that's what you get when the manufacturer scales back quality control or uses poorly trained personnel for assembly of components that require special skills (assembly of differentials, transmissions, balancing of critical driveline parts, etc). A penny saved is a dollar spent in this case.

Edited by pm26
Posted

Are you pursuing the issue? You described exactly what I'm seeing. It's getting progressively worse, and I now feel it strongly in the gas pedal, floor, seat, and center console. I never felt it in the gas pedal until today and it was so bad it made my pant leg shake. Something is evry wrong with these trucks. Mine is going in on Friday am...if they try to feed me that line of bull (that it's normal) I'll be reporting that to GM. I'm going to remain optomistic that they'll do the right thing for their customer so lets see what happens. We shouldn't have to be going through this with new trucks.

 

 

Yes I am pursuing the issue, I'm not giving up until its either fixed or they give me back my money and take my business elsewhere. Though from the sounds of it, this other dealerships service manager is a good guy and agrees with me that its not normal at all. Said he will personally look over it. Though if its not fixed, you can count on GM getting a very quick call.

Posted

If anyone is following along here, I brought my truck up to 50mph set the cruise, quickly slipped transmission into neutral and turned off engine with key.

With the engine dead off and no load on driveshaft the vehicle continued to vibrate and shake with no change.

In conclusion that completely destroys the flapper as the culprit for the 40mph - 50mph speed related and 70mph fine vibration as well.

This brings we to a driveshaft parts issue, or bad torque converter, or torque converter lockup.

If the driveshaft ends up being out of balance, or having a bad runout!

Replacing the driveshaft (propeller shaft) as the fix would be the right step to fixing this issue, however all the parts from supplier would be bad as well.

This might be why there is a new part number issued for the driveshaft most recently.

This would mean that GM knows of this issue with driveshafts, but chose to deal with customers case by case instead of replacing 400,000 + driveshafts or issuing a tsb.

A "TSB" created means a big cost to GM 400,000 × $400 + dealer labour= no proplem

Posted

Please this sounds like the most pratical fix to date, and we do have 1 confirmed fix with the c clamps to driveshaft as of yet.

We should be demanding our dealership to have our driveshafts balanced independently first, before any other action!!!!!!

This will prove that the driveshaft is indeed out of spec right from the factory, and any replacing of the driveshafts through warranty must be confirmed by factory tested and confirmed parts.

 

Machine welded driveshafts, means thousands of out of spec driveshafts, and absolutely no qualified quality control being done at the manufacturing level.

This my friend is what upsets me the most! A good truck, with cheap parts, and untrained associates, and a failed quality control system will destroy GM's legacy wait and see.

I hope some big wig at GM is reading this and wakes up with swift changes!

Posted

I have read through all 93 pages and have been reading from the get go, but can't for the life of me remember if anyone has chimed in here. Does anyone have this issue with the 3.08 rear end? I have the 3.42 as I think most of us do. My buddy has a 2014 with the 3.08 and his is as smooth as silk at all speeds.

3.08 on mine and smooooth.

Posted

So I dropped my truck off last night at the dealership. The service manager calls me and leaves a voicemail at 7:30 tonight and says the GM Engineer had been working on it all day and it is fixed. Im not very optimistic but I'll report back tomorrow.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Sad thing is that this doesn't have to be the case. LSPI can be solved without a reduction in TBN. Swap Ca for Mg.  Cats are not a issue if the OEM can get a ring and valve guide seal even at SN levels of SAPS. Dizzy is purring like a kitten with a bowl of warm milk. 200K of Full SAPS oil and zero detonation issues and nice a clean inside and out. This shouldn't be an issue. It isn't 1920.    Tell ya what AMSOIL SS is excellent at, internal cleanliness. The new formula is even a step up from their already outstanding cleanliness levels. Can't say the OEM offering is quite that clean. There marketing suggest the SS is cleaner.     That is the only defense with at shelf oil. Nothing wrong with them if you ignore the marketing and OEM 'recommended' OCI and use a thimble full of common sense. 😉 You go sir. 
    • I started with a folding cover by BAK PAC on my 2500. It went bad after close to 5 years. Bent and vinyl coming loose. Contacted BAK and they gave me a very good discount on a Revolver. Had it a number of years. Mostly outdoor storage. Some garage storage. Vinyl started to come loose. Still under warranty so they replaced to cover. Sold the 2500, bought the 1500 and got another revolver for it. Had it a couple years now and no issues. I store it indoors. Got a bit of discount when buying it as well. If you are seeing problems, contact BAK or real truck and let them know. Customer service was pretty good. But I think they changed their warranty.
    • I agree, there is no one answer fits all as every rig is different, one may be pulling some little aluminum fishing boat while another is towing a monstrosity that weighs a lot and hopefully the owner if the rig has some prior experience to know what drive mode they should choose.    It also struck me and this is from watching a few of those boat ramp escapades videos in the past, Ford being one of the vehicles that has the auto front axle hubs and sure enough its found out that one hub has crapped out and won't engage and may not have manual hubs to even select on both sides so they are on the boat ramp stuck with no four wheel drive and spinning .... they flat out need a tow to get up the ramp and deal with the vehicles new found issues. That can happen to all brands of pickup, finding out either four wheel drive or 4 low isn't working right at the time its needed it to work as some electronic crap has failed. 
    • Its possible you never had the joy of the crappy boat launches we tend to have around here or really some of them are just grades down to the river if its a river scenario and the conditions change all the time with the river levels and silt deposits. Some of the lakes we went to years ago, there was no such thing as a cement pad that went down into the water that the trailer stayed on, it was gravel maybe up to the water line and then duck crap much beyond that so sinking the boat tires into mud. Of course some of the more established lakes had a cement bar type boat ramp but sometimes it was covered in green slime closer and certainly within the water and a two wheel drive had all sorts of fun if one had to touch that slime with the rear tires.    A neighbor of mine had made a comment years back with his chev truck that was probably about the same year as yours but a half ton extended cab 4x4 and he a a fiberglass boat with an inboard so it wasn't a feather weight and he had gone out to one of the large popular lakes in the area and don't ask me how this happened but he was in two wheel drive as he figured he didn't require four wheel drive for that boat ramp and somehow upon pulling the boat out he twisted one of his drive axles. I suspect it must have spun and then grabbed on the cement ramp and shocked it to the degree of twisting it. He would have had the standard 8.5 or whatever it was axle housing as the 9.5 ring gear like my truck has also has larger drive axles as far as I know. Anyway he was feeling a vibration driving home and had it checked out and a shop found that the tire/hub was wobbling because of the axle had twisted so in went a new drive axle. After that bad experience he said he made sure to put it into four wheel drive to lower the stress on the rear axle. Of course that is where an HD truck can handle a lot more stress and no doubt these newer half tons with their larger ring gears probably have larger drive axles as well to match vs back in the day. 
    • Desirable - as in does someone WANT one, aspire to have one. Could reasonably buy any car they want and CHOOSE these instead.    I didn't watch the video, why did they win?
  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...